Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Turn it around, what if you are wrong ? His career basically ruined and the general public even less likely to believe the next woman with a legitimate complaint.

I have said multiple times we'll have to wait and see.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Get a hold of yourself. Use both hands if necessary.

Posters, including women like me, are allowed to opine about the probability of one of the parties telling a more credible and potentially more substantiated story. That does not make such opinions part of some super system preventing women with cognizable SH/SA claims from making complaints, filing suit, calling authorities, and otherwise righting wrongs.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Turn it around, what if you are wrong ? His career basically ruined and the general public even less likely to believe the next woman with a legitimate complaint.

I have said multiple times we'll have to wait and see.

You’ve been shrieking and irrational for quite a few pages, beloved, because some posters don’t agree with you. Too late now to try and act stable. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Get a hold of yourself. Use both hands if necessary.

Posters, including women like me, are allowed to opine about the probability of one of the parties telling a more credible and potentially more substantiated story. That does not make such opinions part of some super system preventing women with cognizable SH/SA claims from making complaints, filing suit, calling authorities, and otherwise righting wrongs.

Spare us. People are going after her like sport. It's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Turn it around, what if you are wrong ? His career basically ruined and the general public even less likely to believe the next woman with a legitimate complaint.

I have said multiple times we'll have to wait and see.

You’ve been shrieking and irrational for quite a few pages, beloved, because some posters don’t agree with you. Too late now to try and act stable. Sorry.

Sorry you think there is only one poster here. Again, you're wrong. You're on a roll.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

Where’s the cruelty? And I didn't write that post btw.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

Where’s the cruelty? And I didn't write that post btw.

Did I say you did? The point stands. It's an example of how deranged posters are getting which is not at all the way people are talking about Baldoni.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Get a hold of yourself. Use both hands if necessary.

Posters, including women like me, are allowed to opine about the probability of one of the parties telling a more credible and potentially more substantiated story. That does not make such opinions part of some super system preventing women with cognizable SH/SA claims from making complaints, filing suit, calling authorities, and otherwise righting wrongs.

Spare us. People are going after her like sport. It's gross.

How? Who is “us,” you and your multiple personalities?

Why are you personalizing this? Are you also an actress who struggles with Boston accents?

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Anonymous wrote:I am also a lawyer and I support Lively in these circumstances. And for that matter I am also a female lawyer who has been sexually harassed, discriminated against, or close to it (IT manager once gleefully showed me and my boss porn in my first job out of school before I became a lawyer (no repercussions, I excused myself and left); on campus interviewer took me out to drinks and basically propositioned me; went to a different firm and got shit work there while the male attys got depositions; had to avoid being in same room as notoriously handsy partner for two years; worked in group where rainmaking partner raped associate and still stayed at firm and had to report to him on several matters etc). I’m at a different firm now. Nobody needs to tell me what sexual harassment is but thanks.

What about her complaint compared to his complaint makes you support her claim? You’ve described your own experiences, but that has nothing to do with what she has alleged.

I have already described some of these things in the preceding pages and JB supporters chime in with how their own interpretation of events is better and more reasonable lol (plus the comment about how PP is a real survivor of sexual harassment and knows what sexual harassment is. Newsflash: Reasonable people can disagree. You are not the only female atty on this board who has dealt with weird ass men.)

I honestly question whether some JB supporters here aren’t just either people hired by JB’s PR firm (which does these things) or people who have read the poisonous stuff that those people have posted somewhere and then believe it and post similar views themselves. I’m surprised by the sheer number of people on here saying that when Lively asked the (non-Baldoni) producer person to turn their back (after trying in unsuccessfully to reschedule their meeting for another time) and then found him looking at her anyway having completely failed to respect her request and turn his back was somehow Lively’s fault. I understand this isn’t the worst of what happened to her, but dude should have respected her boundaries and tbh art’s not on her. For multiple posters here to actually be blaming that on Lively feels like something weird is going on.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

Where’s the cruelty? And I didn't write that post btw.

Did I say you did? The point stands. It's an example of how deranged posters are getting which is not at all the way people are talking about Baldoni.

Take a walk, baby. You’re a mess.

This thread was solidly supportive of Lively until Baldoni filed a response. Opinions change.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.

Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.

This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.

Agree.

No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.

No that’s not the harm. This case has not convinced some that sh occurred. It’s not fair to throw out softly supported allegations and ruin a persons career like what is occurring. If more details surface that support sh, absolutely will support that stance. Just not seeing it. Some incidents seem unfortunate or even misconstrued/misunderstood, but not what I would call harassment.

It's not actually up to you and the social media mobs to sort this out.

You’re right. But then again why publish her story in many publications that people read, targeted to the rest of America/ the world if you didn’t want others to form opinions? Just so that ‘we would know?” You put it out there for us to comment on.

+1 once you seek out NYT coverage yes the masses are going to form opinions. We're allowed, sorry.

+1000; no one owns the right to an opinion

And what if you're wrong and he is found to have sexually harassed and retaliated? What then? Do you think your time was well spent tearing her down perhaps making other women think it wasn't worth it to report attractive men who acted inappropriately because they will be destroyed in the process? I think people are going well beyond just having a little opinion here.

Get a hold of yourself. Use both hands if necessary.

Posters, including women like me, are allowed to opine about the probability of one of the parties telling a more credible and potentially more substantiated story. That does not make such opinions part of some super system preventing women with cognizable SH/SA claims from making complaints, filing suit, calling authorities, and otherwise righting wrongs.

Spare us. People are going after her like sport. It's gross.

How? Who is “us,” you and your multiple personalities?

Why are you personalizing this? Are you also an actress who struggles with Boston accents?

You seem awfully triggered.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

Where’s the cruelty? And I didn't write that post btw.

Did I say you did? The point stands. It's an example of how deranged posters are getting which is not at all the way people are talking about Baldoni.

Take a walk, baby. You’re a mess.

This thread was solidly supportive of Lively until Baldoni filed a response. Opinions change.

Doll, you're not on TT anymore. Must be rough.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Funny that people are calling defenders of Lively’s lawsuit “shrieking and irrational” above but they don’t seem to be put off by this sort of comment at all. Go figure!

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Anonymous wrote:Blake is a big fat bully. Shame on her. She is a disgrace.

Has anyone said anything remotely as cruel about JB? This goes way beyond just having a little ol' opinion.

Where’s the cruelty? And I didn't write that post btw.

Did I say you did? The point stands. It's an example of how deranged posters are getting which is not at all the way people are talking about Baldoni.

Take a walk, baby. You’re a mess.

This thread was solidly supportive of Lively until Baldoni filed a response. Opinions change.

Doll, you're not on TT anymore. Must be rough.

I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re just really an embarrassment to yourself. How is this so personal to you, the worm turning regarding a highly public dispute involving people you’ve never met?