DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

I wrote the post about how TDS should be taken with skepticism so let me say your attempts at characterizes my motivation are off-base, eg, my DD has been ECNL. I am very familiar with most of the kids in my daughter's age group in the state and believe I can speak knowledgeably about many of them. I can say unequivocally that the rankings are at best inconsistent. I gave specific examples of inaccuracies I have firsthand knowledge of. Also, I have never heard of TDS reaching out to coaches or other scouts.

To help understand the shortcomings of their ranking program, it helps to understand how a player gets listed in the TDS database. First, you can enter your own info into the program, or two, your name shows up in an article. Absent that, you're not in their database and you will not be included in their rankings. As you should be able to realize, many players never enter the database. And for those who are in the database because of an article, as the event that lead to that article fades into the past, then your rankings fade with it as TDS starts ranking the newly-reported players, but those players stay ranked despite how they're playing now, or even if they've moved away or stopped playing soccer altogether.

This isn't to say that they don't have many of the top players listed, and not surprisingly, those players will get good offers. But they miss out on a lot of top players, and they often have the relative rankings of players way off.

We get it. Your DD did not make the list and she's a top player so they are way off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Self promoting parents make me sick.

If your child's play doesn't speak for itself then youre going about it all wrong. With all the nepotism going on, elite soccer is starting to become baseball version of daddy ball...or better yet...a bad episode of dance moms

Unofficially visit.. in other words. They went to a college in their on. Stupid is as stupid does.

You are right. Do not fall into the stupid trap of unofficial visits for college soccer. Let their play speak for itself. If a college wants you, they will call and offer you an official visit. Keep us posted on how that goes for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Self promoting parents make me sick.

If your child's play doesn't speak for itself then youre going about it all wrong. With all the nepotism going on, elite soccer is starting to become baseball version of daddy ball...or better yet...a bad episode of dance moms

Unofficially visit.. in other words. They went to a college in their on. Stupid is as stupid does.

You are right. Do not fall into the stupid trap of unofficial visits for college soccer. Let their play speak for itself. If a college wants you, they will call and offer you an official visit. Keep us posted on how that goes for you.

Ok dance mom.

You will never hear me bragging about unofficial visits. What a joke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Self promoting parents make me sick.

If your child's play doesn't speak for itself then youre going about it all wrong. With all the nepotism going on, elite soccer is starting to become baseball version of daddy ball...or better yet...a bad episode of dance moms

Unofficially visit.. in other words. They went to a college in their on. Stupid is as stupid does.

You are right. Do not fall into the stupid trap of unofficial visits for college soccer. Let their play speak for itself. If a college wants you, they will call and offer you an official visit. Keep us posted on how that goes for you.

Ok dance mom.

You will never hear me bragging about unofficial visits. What a joke

LOL - you are so clueless. LMAO. BWAHAHAHA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Self promoting parents make me sick.

If your child's play doesn't speak for itself then youre going about it all wrong. With all the nepotism going on, elite soccer is starting to become baseball version of daddy ball...or better yet...a bad episode of dance moms

Unofficially visit.. in other words. They went to a college in their on. Stupid is as stupid does.

You are right. Do not fall into the stupid trap of unofficial visits for college soccer. Let their play speak for itself. If a college wants you, they will call and offer you an official visit. Keep us posted on how that goes for you.

Ok dance mom.

You will never hear me bragging about unofficial visits. What a joke

LOL - you are so clueless. LMAO. BWAHAHAHA!

Taking 8th graders on unofficial visits and then bragging about it on a public forum is remarkable. A 5th grader that plays recreation soccer can take unofficial visits. A 4th grade football player can take an unofficial visit to Notre Dame. Get a grip.

Visiting colleges is a good thing. To act as if that puts the kid in another category is BS.

What is an unofficial visit?

An unofficial visit is when you visit a college campus and pay for your entire trip including food, transportation, lodging, etc.

The only item you can get for free on an unofficial visit are complimentary tickets to a game.

When can you take an unofficial visit?

You can begin taking unofficial visits at any point in your career.

[Anonymous]

An unofficial visit is one in which the family foots the bill for a campus visit. Families can still take unofficial visits as early and as often as the student-athletes want.

But the new rules prohibit coaches and athletic departments from participating in the student-athlete’s unofficial visit until Sept. 1 of the recruit’s junior year in high school.

Previously during an official visit, the athlete could talk to a coach (except during a dead period on the recruiting calendar). The athlete might even receive an early verbal offer.

Now, if a freshman or sophomore student-athlete happens to encounter a coach during their unofficial visit, they cannot have any recruiting conversations.

SO TELL ME ABOUT THOSE 8TH GRADERS AGAIN

[Anonymous]

let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

Germany.

Technical and Physical.

[Anonymous]

USMNT

BECAUSE YOU CANT LOSE WHAT YOURE NOT IN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USMNT

BECAUSE YOU CANT LOSE WHAT YOURE NOT IN

Like Italy, Netherlands and Chile. They will be missed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

Germany.

Technical and Physical.

Germany very good team. Interesting they did not include Leroy Sane. I thought he had a great year at Man City. Fast, skilled and ability to score. Sometimes, players like this hold the key to winning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

not quite DA or ECNL, but i guess that falls under everything else. still think its not on topic at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

It’s like this. Which teams have the best midfielders? Spain or Germany?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:let's reduce the tension here a bit. Who you got in the World Cup? Say who and why? Last World Cup i had Argentina. This one i am going with Spain as my favorite. I love their ball control style of play with their skills/technicality. Well coached team also.

It’s like this. Which teams have the best midfielders? Spain or Germany?

do they play in DA or ECNL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

I wrote the post about how TDS should be taken with skepticism so let me say your attempts at characterizes my motivation are off-base, eg, my DD has been ECNL. I am very familiar with most of the kids in my daughter's age group in the state and believe I can speak knowledgeably about many of them. I can say unequivocally that the rankings are at best inconsistent. I gave specific examples of inaccuracies I have firsthand knowledge of. Also, I have never heard of TDS reaching out to coaches or other scouts.

To help understand the shortcomings of their ranking program, it helps to understand how a player gets listed in the TDS database. First, you can enter your own info into the program, or two, your name shows up in an article. Absent that, you're not in their database and you will not be included in their rankings. As you should be able to realize, many players never enter the database. And for those who are in the database because of an article, as the event that lead to that article fades into the past, then your rankings fade with it as TDS starts ranking the newly-reported players, but those players stay ranked despite how they're playing now, or even if they've moved away or stopped playing soccer altogether.

This isn't to say that they don't have many of the top players listed, and not surprisingly, those players will get good offers. But they miss out on a lot of top players, and they often have the relative rankings of players way off.

Are girls who attend NTCs at U14 likely to be on this TDS list?