DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TopDrawerSoccer just released the top 150 girls for 2022 and the top three from this area all play for BRYC. I thought this is interesting because we don't hear much about BRYC on this board. All three are in the top 40 in the US. Bethesda has 2 in the top 50 and several more further down the list. Then FCV has 3 in the 90s.

Bryc 03 /02 has been.mentioned several times. They are class of 2022

[Anonymous]

Top Drawer should not be considered accurate. In my daughter's age groups, they have players listed as being among the top of the state when that player hasn't lived here for years (and wasn't one of the top when she was). Another player we know is listed very high but she wouldn't even be considered in the top 3 in her club (and probably on her HS team as well).

What Top Drawer does is compile a list based on who's names show up in their articles. How you get you name in an article can be by impressing them at a game that TDS happened to be at (which is what was the case for the BRYC girls, who were written up at the PDA showcase) or what happens frequently, you sign your player up for one of the TDS ID events and if they have a half-way decent camp, they certainly get at least two stars in the TDS database. Now, for the players who show up in TDS articles because they're in a nation team pool, obviously those selections have a lot more basis, but even then, TDS will often have never seen those players in a game situation.

So much like GotSoccer team rankings, the TDS player rankings should be viewed with healthy skepticism.

[Anonymous]

Also interesting to see on Topdrawer the college commitments. The makeup is probably more a statement on the state of the various clubs 4-5 years ago and not necessarily the current state. Still a data point.
I was also struck by how many players played for their high school in addition to club. As a parent of middle school aged players I’m always hearing that clubs don’t allow high school play but that would seem to not be the case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anybody know anything about the WS - MD - 06 team. My DD went to the iD session but we can’t get much info on the roster. We heard players whom didn’t make the 06 MD United ECNL team are making the WS - MD - 06 team.

Ive said it many pages ago- WS-MD 06 team is a mess still. I know of many many players that received offers but declined.
I mean- Cabral appointed that coach? Cmon. Just filling the roster with girls that he knows.

[Anonymous]

Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anybody know anything about the WS - MD - 06 team. My DD went to the iD session but we can’t get much info on the roster. We heard players whom didn’t make the 06 MD United ECNL team are making the WS - MD - 06 team.

Ive said it many pages ago- WS-MD 06 team is a mess still. I know of many many players that received offers but declined.
I mean- Cabral appointed that coach? Cmon. Just filling the roster with girls that he knows.

Folks who didn’t make Pipeline and MD United top teams are getting offers! Cabral has hardly any history of full 11v11 soccer. He is all Futsal and had a career playing indoor soccer. Will be interesting to see how that team pans out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

Geeze. earlier and earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

Well, since you are a paying member of TD and get to see the list, why don't you post it for the rest of us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

Well, since you are a paying member of TD and get to see the list, why don't you post it for the rest of us

You should not have your kid in travel soccer if you are writing nonsense like this. Save your money and play Rec and HS soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

Well, since you are a paying member of TD and get to see the list, why don't you post it for the rest of us

yes please!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure seems like girls in the Top Drawer top 150 are getting amazing offers / commitments in their Sophomore year of HS. Are you saying the trick to getting a top D1 offer is to attend TDS ID events or attending events they are at?

10th graders are Class of 2020. They are already on the recruiting radar. They have already attended multiple national events that were recruited.

If you look at the TD DA plays of the week, they're almost always strikers and there goals. You hit a nice goal and submit your video, get your club to vote for you and make play of the week...then you're on TD radar. Here's 2 stars for you.

So one good goal followed by club/ parent marketing gets you on the radar.

And you wonder why parents are out her acting as their child's sport agent.

The TD DA plays of the week are always strikers because DA box scores only show goals. DA does not track saves or assists. Someone reads the DA box scores and then writes the article.

That has nothing to do with their top 150 list though. Otherwise Midfielders, Defenders and Goalkeepers would never make the list. They talk to coaches and scouts to build their list. It's not an inaccurate list. You are probably a DA parent that just doesn't like the list. Sorry but 9 players in the class of 2022 top 150 are ECNL and only 4 are DA. The commitments you see are real.

The class of 2022 are 8th graders and they are on the recruiting radar. Many of these girls are already making unofficial visits colleges and meeting coaches. A few have offers.

These top 150 change some year to year but these are the players that get scouted and recruited.

I wrote the post about how TDS should be taken with skepticism so let me say your attempts at characterizes my motivation are off-base, eg, my DD has been ECNL. I am very familiar with most of the kids in my daughter's age group in the state and believe I can speak knowledgeably about many of them. I can say unequivocally that the rankings are at best inconsistent. I gave specific examples of inaccuracies I have firsthand knowledge of. Also, I have never heard of TDS reaching out to coaches or other scouts.

To help understand the shortcomings of their ranking program, it helps to understand how a player gets listed in the TDS database. First, you can enter your own info into the program, or two, your name shows up in an article. Absent that, you're not in their database and you will not be included in their rankings. As you should be able to realize, many players never enter the database. And for those who are in the database because of an article, as the event that lead to that article fades into the past, then your rankings fade with it as TDS starts ranking the newly-reported players, but those players stay ranked despite how they're playing now, or even if they've moved away or stopped playing soccer altogether.

This isn't to say that they don't have many of the top players listed, and not surprisingly, those players will get good offers. But they miss out on a lot of top players, and they often have the relative rankings of players way off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anybody know anything about the WS - MD - 06 team. My DD went to the iD session but we can’t get much info on the roster. We heard players whom didn’t make the 06 MD United ECNL team are making the WS - MD - 06 team.

Ive said it many pages ago- WS-MD 06 team is a mess still. I know of many many players that received offers but declined.
I mean- Cabral appointed that coach? Cmon. Just filling the roster with girls that he knows.

Folks who didn’t make Pipeline and MD United top teams are getting offers! Cabral has hardly any history of full 11v11 soccer. He is all Futsal and had a career playing indoor soccer. Will be interesting to see how that team pans out.

And isnt he attempting to start his own outdoor soccer club? What happened to his affiliation with Baltimore Celtic? Is that done?
Seems he doesnt stay put with one club for too long. Sounds risky for DA to bring him on.

[Anonymous]

Self promoting parents make me sick.

If your child's play doesn't speak for itself then youre going about it all wrong. With all the nepotism going on, elite soccer is starting to become baseball version of daddy ball...or better yet...a bad episode of dance moms

Unofficially visit.. in other words. They went to a college in their on. Stupid is as stupid does.