Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.


Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.


This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.


What kills me is women and men saying that a woman is lying about sexual harassment when she hasn’t had her day in court, so they’re just willy nilly making declarations. That’s why women don’t speak up. That’s why women aren’t believed. Some rando who wasn’t there confidently saying she’s lying.

Look how many posts on here saying she’s lying in comparison to him. The only posts I’ve seen about him lying are ones saying they both exaggerated.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.


Please quote the specific post that said she brought harrassment on herself.


DP but the posts saying she caused the Justin problem herself by inviting him into her trailer in the first place when she was changing or whatever are like that for me.


I did not interpret those posts as saying she deserved harrassment. Rather I thought they were saying it was bizarre to claim harrassment after inviting someone into the trailer while her breast was uncovered. It does not mean there are not instances of harrassment. It is just strange to invite someone while you are undressed in any way and then say that them accepting your invitation is harassment.


Right. Like if she had invited him into her trailer while she was changing, and he assaulted her, obviously that’s straight up assault. But inviting someone into your trailer while you are changing, and then getting mad that they happen to catch a glimpse of you changing , especially when there are three other women in there with you and you are transitioning to breastfeeding which can be tricky and not totally under your control given you are adding a hungry infant into the mix, just doesn’t seem like harassment. It sounds like an awkward situation.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:And "there" what is? If I invite someone while I have my boob hanging out it is unfair to criticize them for coming in. That is just irrational and does not help the claim of victimhood.


So, to be clear, this is someone saying it was her own fault. Get it now?


No, it is soneone saying that you cannot call it harrassment if someone enters after you invite them into your trailer while you have a boob out. It is not saying harrassment is deserved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So the argument is that Justin responded, "No I will not turn around" ? And that was the harrassment?


Justin was’t one the one in her trailer, it was Jamey. Seems like she thought they were both harassing her.
Anonymous
The guy probably should have just refused to meet with her until she was fully clothed but then her narrative would be that he wasn’t accommodating her request as a new mother to multitask and how HARD it is to be a working mom and why do men make such a big deal over breastfeeding, she’s just trying to get work done while feeding her baby and how dare anybody sexualize or be in any way uncomfortable with that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My take, JB didn’t manage things well and in trying to make BL happy he created a monster.

BL didn’t get everything she wanted along with some negative press related to her own behaviors in interviews. She went back to every interaction and remembered it now with a negative lens. She may actually believe her own claims based on some of her delusional texts. This shouldn’t go to trial, it will hurt everyone but BL has the most to lose.


Can you give examples of her delusional texts?


The GOT one did it for me


That was cringe and so was her implication that he hired some rando perv off the street to play the obstetrician when the guy was actually an accomplished actor.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My take, JB didn’t manage things well and in trying to make BL happy he created a monster.

BL didn’t get everything she wanted along with some negative press related to her own behaviors in interviews. She went back to every interaction and remembered it now with a negative lens. She may actually believe her own claims based on some of her delusional texts. This shouldn’t go to trial, it will hurt everyone but BL has the most to lose.


Can you give examples of her delusional texts?


The GOT one did it for me


That was cringe and so was her implication that he hired some rando perv off the street to play the obstetrician when the guy was actually an accomplished actor.


I still don’t understand that complaint, why was that sexual harassment and not nepotism assuming that’s the basis of her issue
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The guy probably should have just refused to meet with her until she was fully clothed but then her narrative would be that he wasn’t accommodating her request as a new mother to multitask and how HARD it is to be a working mom and why do men make such a big deal over breastfeeding, she’s just trying to get work done while feeding her baby and how dare anybody sexualize or be in any way uncomfortable with that.


Yes. Take a look at the interview where the interviewer asks about the period costumes of the film she was in and she just goes off on some twisted "feminist" hissy fit to a completely appropriate question. I have no doubt she would have pulled this too. I don't think there's a way to win with her because she was ruling the set with an iron fist and seems to have a warped sense of reality and self importance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The guy probably should have just refused to meet with her until she was fully clothed but then her narrative would be that he wasn’t accommodating her request as a new mother to multitask and how HARD it is to be a working mom and why do men make such a big deal over breastfeeding, she’s just trying to get work done while feeding her baby and how dare anybody sexualize or be in any way uncomfortable with that.


+ a million. They seemed to be in a no-win situation here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My take, JB didn’t manage things well and in trying to make BL happy he created a monster.

BL didn’t get everything she wanted along with some negative press related to her own behaviors in interviews. She went back to every interaction and remembered it now with a negative lens. She may actually believe her own claims based on some of her delusional texts. This shouldn’t go to trial, it will hurt everyone but BL has the most to lose.


Can you give examples of her delusional texts?


The GOT one did it for me


That was cringe and so was her implication that he hired some rando perv off the street to play the obstetrician when the guy was actually an accomplished actor.


I still don’t understand that complaint, why was that sexual harassment and not nepotism assuming that’s the basis of her issue


I don't understand it either. There's no allegation the guy did anything or was creepy, just that he was a friend of the director. So what?
Anonymous
It's obvious from the last few pages that a lot of people weighing in haven't even read both complaints or have not read them closely, or lack reading comprehension.

There are multiple allegations here, involving multiple people. There are incidents involving Baldoni entering Lively's trailer while she was nursing or pumping (she says inappropriately, he says invited). There is also an alleged incident involving Jaimie Heath speaking to Lively while she was topless in the makeup trailer. Lively claims she asked Heath to leave until she was done and he refused, so then she asked him to turn around and he did at first but then she still caught him looking at her. Baldoni's complaint confirms this happened but claims it was no big deal, that the meeting was happening because Lively wasn't otherwise available to meet, and says Lively joked about the incident later.

There are also numerous other allegations, including that Wayfarer pressured Lively into being fully nude in the birthing scene (this is not addressed in Baldoni's complaint), that the IC was not always present when intimate scenes were filmed (Baldoni denied and claims Lively refused to meet with the IC), and that Baldoni crossed boundaries both when filming scenes with Lively, and when directing intimate scenes involving the younger versions of their character (Baldoni denied and alleges additional facts that indicate Lively was difficult to work with and that she also improvised during intimate scenes).

There are also numerous allegations where the parties largely agree on what happened but interpret it very differently. Was Lively partially nude in the birth scene or fully clothed? Depends on whether you consider a pregnancy suit and some kind of covering over privates to constitute "fully clothed." Did Heath and Baldoni try to show Lively and others an inappropriate and intimate video of a naked woman, or did they appropriately suggest watching a tasteful birthing video as part of scene prep? It is open to interpretation. Did Lively use her husband and famous friend to bully/harass Baldoni regarding her creative input into the movie, or did she simply advocate for her input as appropriate for her role as star and executive producer? It depends on your interpretation.

All we have are competing claims. No one here knows what really happens. If you are asserting you do know, especially while conflating alleged incidents and getting even agreed upon facts wrong, you are full of it.
Anonymous
I wrote the name Justin when I intended Jamey a page or two ago, my bad and my apologies.

Thanks for that descriptive comment, I think it's helpful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.


Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.


This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.


Agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.


Thanks for this, too. Hard agree. Lots of resentment of women in this thread, from my perspective.


This is what kills me. Blake has done real harm to actual victims of sexual harassment. Everytime a women makes up sexual harassment claims it makes it less likely the real victims will be believed.


Agree.


No, all this will do is deter women from coming forward. That's the harm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's obvious from the last few pages that a lot of people weighing in haven't even read both complaints or have not read them closely, or lack reading comprehension.

There are multiple allegations here, involving multiple people. There are incidents involving Baldoni entering Lively's trailer while she was nursing or pumping (she says inappropriately, he says invited). There is also an alleged incident involving Jaimie Heath speaking to Lively while she was topless in the makeup trailer. Lively claims she asked Heath to leave until she was done and he refused, so then she asked him to turn around and he did at first but then she still caught him looking at her. Baldoni's complaint confirms this happened but claims it was no big deal, that the meeting was happening because Lively wasn't otherwise available to meet, and says Lively joked about the incident later.

There are also numerous other allegations, including that Wayfarer pressured Lively into being fully nude in the birthing scene (this is not addressed in Baldoni's complaint), that the IC was not always present when intimate scenes were filmed (Baldoni denied and claims Lively refused to meet with the IC), and that Baldoni crossed boundaries both when filming scenes with Lively, and when directing intimate scenes involving the younger versions of their character (Baldoni denied and alleges additional facts that indicate Lively was difficult to work with and that she also improvised during intimate scenes).

There are also numerous allegations where the parties largely agree on what happened but interpret it very differently. Was Lively partially nude in the birth scene or fully clothed? Depends on whether you consider a pregnancy suit and some kind of covering over privates to constitute "fully clothed." Did Heath and Baldoni try to show Lively and others an inappropriate and intimate video of a naked woman, or did they appropriately suggest watching a tasteful birthing video as part of scene prep? It is open to interpretation. Did Lively use her husband and famous friend to bully/harass Baldoni regarding her creative input into the movie, or did she simply advocate for her input as appropriate for her role as star and executive producer? It depends on your interpretation.

All we have are competing claims. No one here knows what really happens. If you are asserting you do know, especially while conflating alleged incidents and getting even agreed upon facts wrong, you are full of it.


Listen, we can read. And we have intelligence. Some of us just don’t see the sh. We’re entitled to give that assessment.
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