Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m about to pull my two out of summer league because they are the only kids seemingly capable of distancing or masking, and they are both under 12, so unvaccinated. Could someone explain to me why you are so comfortable - nay, hell bent! - to not have your kids wear masks at crowded events? Outdoor or indoor, crowded is clearly a risk. I am not okay with my kids getting COVID. It’s not hard to enforce a little distance or a mask when distancing is hard.

The science is pretty clear - unvaccinated people need to mask or distance. Why are we abandoning it?

I think it is a combination of extremely low cases and extremely low transmission rates outdoors. Car accidents are more dangerous to the 12 and under population. My kids mask in bathrooms, indoors, and we still don't do movies/trampoline parks/etc.

[Anonymous]

This is getting complicated. I don’t have club swimmers but I did have a HS swimmer. Those high school kids did not stay masked or distanced INSIDE during the height of winter covid. Not one single case on our team or any we swam against. They end where they start so the mask in bag was do able but utterly stupid and they still had it off near each other.

It can be hard enough to get volunteers so now we need mask
Runners? 🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is getting complicated. I don’t have club swimmers but I did have a HS swimmer. Those high school kids did not stay masked or distanced INSIDE during the height of winter covid. Not one single case on our team or any we swam against. They end where they start so the mask in bag was do able but utterly stupid and they still had it off near each other.

It can be hard enough to get volunteers so now we need mask
Runners? 🤣

Speaking solely for my family, I would gladly be the permanent mask runner for the summer!

[Anonymous]

Mask runner is the worst job. It needs to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is getting complicated. I don’t have club swimmers but I did have a HS swimmer. Those high school kids did not stay masked or distanced INSIDE during the height of winter covid. Not one single case on our team or any we swam against. They end where they start so the mask in bag was do able but utterly stupid and they still had it off near each other.

It can be hard enough to get volunteers so now we need mask
Runners? 🤣

At the vast majority of meets, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a reason why we are not naming names about pools that are requiring masks? I have been checking several pool websites and I can’t find anyone that appears to be requiring masks.

Lake Braddock

Daventry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a reason why we are not naming names about pools that are requiring masks? I have been checking several pool websites and I can’t find anyone that appears to be requiring masks.

Lake Braddock

Daventry

For everyone? Our rules are if your vaccinated no mask needed, swimmer or adult. Unvaccinated needs a mask. Vaccinated are encouraged to wear masks but don't have to.

[Anonymous]

Div 12 A meets--unvaccinated wears masks, swimmer, coach, volunteer etc. mask in a bag, mask runner, etc.

[Anonymous]

No one else thinks it’s silly for the kids to put masks on to walk to and from their race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one else thinks it’s silly for the kids to put masks on to walk to and from their race?

Lots of people think it’s silly.

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Anonymous wrote:No one else thinks it’s silly for the kids to put masks on to walk to and from their race?

Lots of people think it’s silly.

It’s what USA Swimming is still doing.

[Anonymous]

Our pool is not requiring masks for meets, but made clear that if you want your kid to wear a mask you are more than welcome to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:No one else thinks it’s silly for the kids to put masks on to walk to and from their race?

Lots of people think it’s silly.

It’s what USA Swimming is still doing.

Great. We are not all USA swimming. There are teams in California not requiring masks, the only other state crazier than ours. Teams last year weren’t requiring masks when we couldn’t even have a season.

I get it, our hands are tied. But we are just keeping this craziness going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one else thinks it’s silly for the kids to put masks on to walk to and from their race?

It’s not the walk. It’s the sitting/standing around close to each other waiting for the race.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m about to pull my two out of summer league because they are the only kids seemingly capable of distancing or masking, and they are both under 12, so unvaccinated. Could someone explain to me why you are so comfortable - nay, hell bent! - to not have your kids wear masks at crowded events? Outdoor or indoor, crowded is clearly a risk. I am not okay with my kids getting COVID. It’s not hard to enforce a little distance or a mask when distancing is hard.

The science is pretty clear - unvaccinated people need to mask or distance. Why are we abandoning it?

You 100% need to pull your kids out.

I have my kids wearing masks anytime they go inside somewhere. A swim meet is different. This winter I saw exhausted 8 and unders 'swimming back' after doing their 25s to 'retrieve their mask.' It slowed down the meet significantly. 8 and unders swimming club are reasonably proficient swimmers- can you imagine 6 and under doing this in summer swim???? some of those kids can barely make it across once. I saw numerous kids gasping for breath after they swam hard, being ordered to put their mask immediately on their wet faces- the cloth masks then adhered to their wet faces making breathing harder.

The most 'crowded' place at a swim meet is the clerk of course. I'm not worried about them sitting there unmasked b/c they are outside, and the transmission in our area right now is extraordinarily low. But if you do mask there- you have to figure out what to do with the masks when they get up to swim- which is how you get into this scenario of needing 25's to 'swim back' of needing plastic bags for masks, that blow around in the wind, including into the water.. etc..

If we were talking an event where they could just keep their masks on the whole time and neither their faces or masks was wet- I would feel differently about masking 11 and unders.....

Clerk of course can be adjusted so that it isn’t crowded. We don’t have to do it the way it’s always been done.

Don’t worry about clerk of course - close and continuing contact is 15 min according to the CDC. The kids won’t be there that long.

That is old and outdated information. Exposure can happen in far shorter periods of time.

Outdoors? Not likely

Close contact is defined by CDC as someone who was within 2 meters of an infected person for at least 15 minutes within a 24-hour period