Josh Duggar arrested and in federal custody

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

CP is basically always fed charges. He is charged w/ 2 counts: receipt and possession. It means they can prove exactly how he got it & that he had it (both probably via his hard drive). There are no charges related to production or distribution. You are completely wrong if you think feds don't go after CP possession when it lands in their lap.

My parents’ neighbor’s kid was caught with possession of child porn. It was handled at the district court. Guy is out living with his parents and working. He is on the offender list and that is it. Nothing more. It’s so sad. My parents are livid because now we always ALWAYS have to keep in an eye out for all of the grandkids when they visit.

"District court" is the trial-level federal court, so that makes sense. (Some states also have district courts; different states organize their judiciary differently. Anyway, can't quite tell what you're trying to get at there.) There are reasons that feds would allow him to plea: evidentiary problems with the case (e.g., hard to prove it was him using the computer v his dad), legal problems with the search (some chance he could get it tossed); young/first time offender/single image or image file from a relatively innocuous search term (e.g., not apparently looking for CP but overcome by curiosity); mental illness; etc. Anyway, no idea what happened w/ your parents' neighbors, but this definitely doesn't mean that the feds don't take CP seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

CP is basically always fed charges. He is charged w/ 2 counts: receipt and possession. It means they can prove exactly how he got it & that he had it (both probably via his hard drive). There are no charges related to production or distribution. You are completely wrong if you think feds don't go after CP possession when it lands in their lap.

My parents’ neighbor’s kid was caught with possession of child porn. It was handled at the district court. Guy is out living with his parents and working. He is on the offender list and that is it. Nothing more. It’s so sad. My parents are livid because now we always ALWAYS have to keep in an eye out for all of the grandkids when they visit.

What do you mean “handled at the district court”? I assume you’re trying to say not federal but trials are done at federal district courts. What did he plea to? Have you actually read his case file? Seems like maybe you’re missing some details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His behavior makes me ill but so does that of his parents. I get that it would be hard to accept what your child had done but instead of getting him the real help he obviously needed they sent him to that farm to work. Ummmm, it takes a bit more than that to tackle sex addiction.

I think it’s fair to say we’ve crossed the line of “sex addiction.” Their son is a sexual deviant, and the denial is strong in that family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How messed up a human has to be to enjoy Child Porn. Think about it. This is not sexuality. This is something so unnatural, inhuman and disgusting.

Tell me about it. I prosecuted a child porn case - just one - and I still have never gotten over the evidence I had to review. I won’t even describe it to you because it would rip your souls to shreds, too. Worst thing was the victim in one series of photos was a doppelgänger for my beloved little freckle faced ginger haired niece when she was a toddler. I still have nightmares a decade later. And daymares.

DP. That would damage me for life. Seriously thank you for doing what you did.

Yes thank you PP. I’m just gutted that anyone has to do this job. It’s one of the greatest public services a person can give but because of the taboo we don’t even give the people who do it their due credit.

(Slight derail: Just want to put in a plea for support for the people who work with the kids impacted by this. They may end up in foster care, often have Medicaid, with access to limited mental health services by poorly paid providers. We can do better. We need to choose to do better.)

[Anonymous]

Cult. And since they have so many kids, and their kids have so many kids, who knows how many other issues they've tried to pray away, ignored, or enabled.

Family values at its finest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The worst part of all this? Nothing is going to happen to him. He might get house arrest. But they will let him walk.

No they won’t. You don’t know the feds on child pornography.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

CP is basically always fed charges. He is charged w/ 2 counts: receipt and possession. It means they can prove exactly how he got it & that he had it (both probably via his hard drive). There are no charges related to production or distribution. You are completely wrong if you think feds don't go after CP possession when it lands in their lap.

My parents’ neighbor’s kid was caught with possession of child porn. It was handled at the district court. Guy is out living with his parents and working. He is on the offender list and that is it. Nothing more. It’s so sad. My parents are livid because now we always ALWAYS have to keep in an eye out for all of the grandkids when they visit.

My friend’s uncle was arrested on fed charges for receipt, possession, and intent to distribute CP. He served 3 years in federal prison then a year at a halfway house. He’s on the registry but otherwise life is back to normal for him as a 65yo retiree (he did lose family contact and friends when it all came out). The sentences can be very very short in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

Sorry, you are entirely ignorant of how child pornography is handled by the feds - who are the primary prosecutors of child pornography, many state prosecutors just hand the cases off because the Feds are so rabid to prosecute them and have far more resources.

Possession of child pornography is 10 years federal prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

Sorry, you are entirely ignorant of how child pornography is handled by the feds - who are the primary prosecutors of child pornography, many state prosecutors just hand the cases off because the Feds are so rabid to prosecute them and have far more resources.

Possession of child pornography is 10 years federal prison.

Only 10 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

Sorry, you are entirely ignorant of how child pornography is handled by the feds - who are the primary prosecutors of child pornography, many state prosecutors just hand the cases off because the Feds are so rabid to prosecute them and have far more resources.

Possession of child pornography is 10 years federal prison.

Only 10 years?

The charges said maximum 20 per count and up to $250,000 fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cult. And since they have so many kids, and their kids have so many kids, who knows how many other issues they've tried to pray away, ignored, or enabled.

Family values at its finest.

This needs to be given as much publicity as possible. Who knows how many other victims are out there, afraid to come forward, because they will be kicked out of the cult and out of their families?

There are plenty of progressive Christians out there who will help them get out.

[Anonymous]

Did I read this is going to a jury trial? I can only imagine what type of people could potentially be selected as jurors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

Sorry, you are entirely ignorant of how child pornography is handled by the feds - who are the primary prosecutors of child pornography, many state prosecutors just hand the cases off because the Feds are so rabid to prosecute them and have far more resources.

Possession of child pornography is 10 years federal prison.

Only 10 years?

On a first offense the maximum is 10 years, no mandatory minimum. If the depiction is of a child under 12, the maximum is 20 years. If the offender has any prior sex crime conviction the penalties are more severe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He looks stoned out of his gourd in that mug shot.

The creep is smirking! Maybe he figured Daddy would find a way to fix it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with child pornography.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has to have done more than just "download" child porn. Disgusting yes, but not fed-worthy. At the very least he must have distributed, possibly made.

Sorry, you are entirely ignorant of how child pornography is handled by the feds - who are the primary prosecutors of child pornography, many state prosecutors just hand the cases off because the Feds are so rabid to prosecute them and have far more resources.

Possession of child pornography is 10 years federal prison.

Only 10 years?

The charges said maximum 20 per count and up to $250,000 fine.

It must be children under 12 depicted in the CP.

Sick.