Why do people hate Disney?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you need to like it? It's for your kids to enjoy.


Adults don’t have to like it, but they can.

It’s not just for kids.


Yeah-I actually just booked a trip for me and my dds' for May, as a 50th birthday present for myself! I live in FL so it's a short drive.

For me, I'm not at a time in life where I can travel for large blocks of time-there are many places I'd like to see when I retire and can take more time. I still have kids in school (one after this school year) so there is that too. Disney is right there to enjoy so we will!

I get not 'liking' Disney. I don't particuarly like Universal. But I don't 'hate' it or other places. Not interested in the Bahamas but don't 'hate' it. I think people who rail about hating Disney and all the people there and Fl and everyone in it, are probably not very nice people to be around on a daily basis. I feel sorry for those who have to interact with them.

I tend to agree with this. I'm no Pollyanna, not by a long shot, but I find that it takes so much energy to be so actively negative about things that are of very little consequence. Its exhausting and people who do it never see it as being that way, they think they just "have strong opinions" or "know what they like". I have good friends even who are like this, they have several things that rise to the level of extreme dislike or hate, it always seems to coincide with people who tend to be high strung and anxious on the inside as well, I've observed. They are good people, I enjoy their company and care about them deeply but their laundry list of pet peeves and things they "hate" is just so weird to me . Like, dial it down, the world is hard enough without your negativity, Nancy.


You mean like the person who is SO offended by the name of a restaurant at Disney? Yeah.
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Tiffins is supposed to celebrate traveling around the places in the world that inspired Animal Kingdom.

They picked the word “tiffins” because it refers to a midday meal Indians carried around—traveled—in a container.

They incorporated African, Asian, and South American cuisine into the menu because those areas inspired the designs in Animal Kingdom.

The idea is that you get to have a little culinary journey as you try foods from different parts of the world.

That’s really it. It’s not some horrible travesty.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you need to like it? It's for your kids to enjoy.


Adults don’t have to like it, but they can.

It’s not just for kids.


Yeah-I actually just booked a trip for me and my dds' for May, as a 50th birthday present for myself! I live in FL so it's a short drive.

For me, I'm not at a time in life where I can travel for large blocks of time-there are many places I'd like to see when I retire and can take more time. I still have kids in school (one after this school year) so there is that too. Disney is right there to enjoy so we will!

I get not 'liking' Disney. I don't particuarly like Universal. But I don't 'hate' it or other places. Not interested in the Bahamas but don't 'hate' it. I think people who rail about hating Disney and all the people there and Fl and everyone in it, are probably not very nice people to be around on a daily basis. I feel sorry for those who have to interact with them.

I tend to agree with this. I'm no Pollyanna, not by a long shot, but I find that it takes so much energy to be so actively negative about things that are of very little consequence. Its exhausting and people who do it never see it as being that way, they think they just "have strong opinions" or "know what they like". I have good friends even who are like this, they have several things that rise to the level of extreme dislike or hate, it always seems to coincide with people who tend to be high strung and anxious on the inside as well, I've observed. They are good people, I enjoy their company and care about them deeply but their laundry list of pet peeves and things they "hate" is just so weird to me . Like, dial it down, the world is hard enough without your negativity, Nancy.



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Fast passes allow you to skip some of the line, but having to set all this up weeks/months before I go seems excessive.

We were given free lodging last minute in Orlando and decided to bring the kids down in October a few years back. We had about 2 weeks notice. Fast passes for the "good" rides weren't even available in such short notice.

I go on vacation to relax. Going to Disney felt the opposite of that - annoyance at the lines/crowds and stress the week or two before wondering if I did all that I could do.

I think a lot of it could be resolved if they put a max on the number of tickets sold per day. But we know that won't happen. Otherwise I feel like I spent close to $800/day to stand in line.


I would put this in the category of people who do not research how to have a good time at Disney. No way would I go with two weeks notice. That just does not make sense for Disney given the fast pass and planning/reservation approach to having a good time there.


This combo of words is one of the main turn-offs for me.


YOU DIDN'T WORK HARD ENOUGH TO RELAX!!!!!!!!! NO SPREADSHEET? NO FUN!


Could you waltz into Europe with zero planning and be able to do absolutely everything you want to do?


Yes


Then you’ve got low expectations.


You think the world operates like Disney. Sad.


I’ve been to 30 countries. What about you?

I actually plan my trips.


48, lived in 3. You need to plan, people like me do what we want when we want. And that's OK. I don't hate Disney, but the idea that everyone who doesn't plan a trip is doing it wrong is so embarrassing. Its also sad that you compared disney to an entire continent, but I get that we are very different people.
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Anonymous wrote:My issue with Disney is that I am spending a small fortune to stand in line all day. We don't stay onsite, so there isn't much of an opportunity to go back and relax at the pool.

Fast passes allow you to skip some of the line, but having to set all this up weeks/months before I go seems excessive.

We were given free lodging last minute in Orlando and decided to bring the kids down in October a few years back. We had about 2 weeks notice. Fast passes for the "good" rides weren't even available in such short notice.

I go on vacation to relax. Going to Disney felt the opposite of that - annoyance at the lines/crowds and stress the week or two before wondering if I did all that I could do.

I think a lot of it could be resolved if they put a max on the number of tickets sold per day. But we know that won't happen. Otherwise I feel like I spent close to $800/day to stand in line.


I would put this in the category of people who do not research how to have a good time at Disney. No way would I go with two weeks notice. That just does not make sense for Disney given the fast pass and planning/reservation approach to having a good time there.


This combo of words is one of the main turn-offs for me.


YOU DIDN'T WORK HARD ENOUGH TO RELAX!!!!!!!!! NO SPREADSHEET? NO FUN!


Could you waltz into Europe with zero planning and be able to do absolutely everything you want to do?


Yes


Then you’ve got low expectations.


You think the world operates like Disney. Sad.


I’ve been to 30 countries. What about you?

I actually plan my trips.


48, lived in 3. You need to plan, people like me do what we want when we want. And that's OK. I don't hate Disney, but the idea that everyone who doesn't plan a trip is doing it wrong is so embarrassing. Its also sad that you compared disney to an entire continent, but I get that we are very different people.


Huh? I compared it to a place with a lot of popular destinations for tourists from around the world. That’s the extent of the similarity, but way to mischaracterize what I wrote.

You can only do what you want when you want at a popular tourist destination if you don’t care to do anything that’s particularly popular.

When we visited Berlin, there was no way we were getting into the Reichstag unless we booked ahead of time, as it’s very popular. When I took my in-laws to Rome, I booked a specific type of Vatican tour, so that we wouldn’t have to wait in an extremely long line. Same with the Colosseum. Could we have just shown up on the day we wanted to visit those things and waited in line? Sure, but none of us wanted to wait for 5 hours. When I took my husband to London, we wanted to hear Prime Minister’s Question Time. For a non-UK citizen to do that, you need to absolutely book ahead of time, as there are very limited tickets. Same thing for a Buckingham Palace tour.

In that way, yes — popular Western European cities are somewhat similar to Disney. You can just show up and wing it, but if your goal is to do popular things, you’re either going to miss out or you’re going to wait in line.

To think you can do what you want when you want at a popular place is ridiculous, unless you want to do things very few other people want to do, or you want to do non-ticketed things, like just walking around and taking in the atmosphere. If that’s your type of trip, great.

But I do agree with you that you and I are very different people. That much we’re in agreement on.
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Anonymous wrote:My issue with Disney is that I am spending a small fortune to stand in line all day. We don't stay onsite, so there isn't much of an opportunity to go back and relax at the pool.

Fast passes allow you to skip some of the line, but having to set all this up weeks/months before I go seems excessive.

We were given free lodging last minute in Orlando and decided to bring the kids down in October a few years back. We had about 2 weeks notice. Fast passes for the "good" rides weren't even available in such short notice.

I go on vacation to relax. Going to Disney felt the opposite of that - annoyance at the lines/crowds and stress the week or two before wondering if I did all that I could do.

I think a lot of it could be resolved if they put a max on the number of tickets sold per day. But we know that won't happen. Otherwise I feel like I spent close to $800/day to stand in line.


I would put this in the category of people who do not research how to have a good time at Disney. No way would I go with two weeks notice. That just does not make sense for Disney given the fast pass and planning/reservation approach to having a good time there.


This combo of words is one of the main turn-offs for me.


YOU DIDN'T WORK HARD ENOUGH TO RELAX!!!!!!!!! NO SPREADSHEET? NO FUN!


Could you waltz into Europe with zero planning and be able to do absolutely everything you want to do?


Yes


Then you’ve got low expectations.


You think the world operates like Disney. Sad.


I’ve been to 30 countries. What about you?

I actually plan my trips.


48, lived in 3. You need to plan, people like me do what we want when we want. And that's OK. I don't hate Disney, but the idea that everyone who doesn't plan a trip is doing it wrong is so embarrassing. Its also sad that you compared disney to an entire continent, but I get that we are very different people.


Huh? I compared it to a place with a lot of popular destinations for tourists from around the world. That’s the extent of the similarity, but way to mischaracterize what I wrote.

You can only do what you want when you want at a popular tourist destination if you don’t care to do anything that’s particularly popular.

When we visited Berlin, there was no way we were getting into the Reichstag unless we booked ahead of time, as it’s very popular. When I took my in-laws to Rome, I booked a specific type of Vatican tour, so that we wouldn’t have to wait in an extremely long line. Same with the Colosseum. Could we have just shown up on the day we wanted to visit those things and waited in line? Sure, but none of us wanted to wait for 5 hours. When I took my husband to London, we wanted to hear Prime Minister’s Question Time. For a non-UK citizen to do that, you need to absolutely book ahead of time, as there are very limited tickets. Same thing for a Buckingham Palace tour.

In that way, yes — popular Western European cities are somewhat similar to Disney. You can just show up and wing it, but if your goal is to do popular things, you’re either going to miss out or you’re going to wait in line.

To think you can do what you want when you want at a popular place is ridiculous, unless you want to do things very few other people want to do, or you want to do non-ticketed things, like just walking around and taking in the atmosphere. If that’s your type of trip, great.

But I do agree with you that you and I are very different people. That much we’re in agreement on.


Oh and I’ve lived in 3 countries too. Big whoop.
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These threads get so weird so fast. It's like an microcosm of how so many people engage in black and white thinking.

Can you do a vacation to Europe (or anyplace) with little planning? Just show up and wander around and see what you can find, enjoying the journey of exploration? Sure! Is that rather hard when you have kids that may be hungry or tired at set times, and may have more limited interests that you do? In my experience, yes, but I recognize that there are some children out there who probably would also love that sort of free-wheeling exploration. (I did, as a kid, from ages 9 or so up....but I was also a weird, socially maladapted kid with weird interests.)

Different strokes for different folks, and a time for every purpose under heaven, folks!

These vacation debates always strike me a little like someone saying they will only see documentary movies, and that anyone that sees a rom-com lacks intellectual curiosity and are sad, overweight people with limited exposure to the world (but no judgment!), and then people responding that if you don't like rom-coms, it's only because you're going to the wrong ones and are incurably snobby.

At the end of the day, who cares? There are lots of people who like both, or who might like one when they are in one mood, and the other when they are in a different mood. I personally could never imagine the people who want to own a vacation home, because I would hate to go to the same place over and over -- but I know so many people who LOVE it and find that familiarity so relaxing. Unless your vacation is to invade the US Congress to thwart democratic processes, I'm not judging!
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Anonymous wrote:These threads get so weird so fast. It's like an microcosm of how so many people engage in black and white thinking.

Can you do a vacation to Europe (or anyplace) with little planning? Just show up and wander around and see what you can find, enjoying the journey of exploration? Sure! Is that rather hard when you have kids that may be hungry or tired at set times, and may have more limited interests that you do? In my experience, yes, but I recognize that there are some children out there who probably would also love that sort of free-wheeling exploration. (I did, as a kid, from ages 9 or so up....but I was also a weird, socially maladapted kid with weird interests.)

Different strokes for different folks, and a time for every purpose under heaven, folks!

These vacation debates always strike me a little like someone saying they will only see documentary movies, and that anyone that sees a rom-com lacks intellectual curiosity and are sad, overweight people with limited exposure to the world (but no judgment!), and then people responding that if you don't like rom-coms, it's only because you're going to the wrong ones and are incurably snobby.

At the end of the day, who cares? There are lots of people who like both, or who might like one when they are in one mood, and the other when they are in a different mood. I personally could never imagine the people who want to own a vacation home, because I would hate to go to the same place over and over -- but I know so many people who LOVE it and find that familiarity so relaxing. Unless your vacation is to invade the US Congress to thwart democratic processes, I'm not judging!


Exactly. That’s really the *only* reason I was comparing Disney to Europe. Europe has probably the most highly desirable tourist destinations of any single continent, and Disney is probably the most popular theme park in the world.

If you want to do a lot of things at Disney or a major city in Western Europe, you’re going to have to plan. If you don’t, you’ll either wait in long lines or miss out.

If you want to just walk around and you don’t necessarily care about what you get done, you can do that.

Different strokes for different folks. For both types of vacation, many people will plan, because it’s expensive and they only expect to go once in their lifetime. They want to make sure to check everything off their list.

I’ve been to London probably 15 times. At this point (and especially because I haven’t been anywhere in a year), I’d be happy just walking down the street, window shopping and people watching. But that’s largely because I’ve already done pretty much everything I’d want to do in London in terms of tourist attractions. But if I’m bringing someone who’s new, you can sure as hell bet we’re not just showing up at Heathrow with nothing booked. I’m not waiting in line at the freaking Tower of London for 4 hours. I’m booking any tour I can find, just to skip the line. I do the same thing at Disney.
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This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.

who said it is?
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.

who said it is?


The criticisms people have of Disney (expensive, long lines, etc.) could be applied to a ton of places. It always seems, in these threads, like people are acting as though Disney is unique in this regard.

If they don’t like Disney because of the expense and the long lines, then why are they saying they would prefer to go to Europe, where it’s often also expensive and there are tons of people around?
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.

Of course. But if I'm going to suck it up and do a vacation that involves horrible lines, I want it to be for something like the Colosseum. Not Dumbo the Flying Elephant. To each his own.
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.

who said it is?


The criticisms people have of Disney (expensive, long lines, etc.) could be applied to a ton of places. It always seems, in these threads, like people are acting as though Disney is unique in this regard.

If they don’t like Disney because of the expense and the long lines, then why are they saying they would prefer to go to Europe, where it’s often also expensive and there are tons of people around?

umm, because Europe has things that I actually want to see and am willing to stand in line for and be around big crowds for? I don't like standing in lines, but I'm willing to do it to see amazing historical sites or tour a fascinating city. I am less willing to do it for a 90 second roller coaster.

Come on, this is not that hard.
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Anonymous wrote:Overpriced, crowds, celebration of the most superficial aspects of capitalism?


This. Also I hate standing in lines.


So you hate going to most places then.


It’s true, we Disney haters actually hate everything. We just sit home and stew in our hatred while you crazy kids go out and live life to the fullest. In Orlando.


I was talking more about the fact that you just hate going to places like Italy during the summer. Horrible lines.

NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer.


As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines.

Of course. But if I'm going to suck it up and do a vacation that involves horrible lines, I want it to be for something like the Colosseum. Not Dumbo the Flying Elephant. To each his own.


You mean a place where Romans used gladiators as slave entertainment?

I mean, don’t get me wrong — I went to the Colosseum too, but don’t act like it’s unequivocally superior to a ride.

It’s actually a little sick that we all gawk in awe at a place that was used for some absolutely horrific acts.
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