
You mean like the person who is SO offended by the name of a restaurant at Disney? Yeah. |
Tiffins is supposed to celebrate traveling around the places in the world that inspired Animal Kingdom.
They picked the word “tiffins” because it refers to a midday meal Indians carried around—traveled—in a container. They incorporated African, Asian, and South American cuisine into the menu because those areas inspired the designs in Animal Kingdom. The idea is that you get to have a little culinary journey as you try foods from different parts of the world. That’s really it. It’s not some horrible travesty. |
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48, lived in 3. You need to plan, people like me do what we want when we want. And that's OK. I don't hate Disney, but the idea that everyone who doesn't plan a trip is doing it wrong is so embarrassing. Its also sad that you compared disney to an entire continent, but I get that we are very different people. |
Huh? I compared it to a place with a lot of popular destinations for tourists from around the world. That’s the extent of the similarity, but way to mischaracterize what I wrote. You can only do what you want when you want at a popular tourist destination if you don’t care to do anything that’s particularly popular. When we visited Berlin, there was no way we were getting into the Reichstag unless we booked ahead of time, as it’s very popular. When I took my in-laws to Rome, I booked a specific type of Vatican tour, so that we wouldn’t have to wait in an extremely long line. Same with the Colosseum. Could we have just shown up on the day we wanted to visit those things and waited in line? Sure, but none of us wanted to wait for 5 hours. When I took my husband to London, we wanted to hear Prime Minister’s Question Time. For a non-UK citizen to do that, you need to absolutely book ahead of time, as there are very limited tickets. Same thing for a Buckingham Palace tour. In that way, yes — popular Western European cities are somewhat similar to Disney. You can just show up and wing it, but if your goal is to do popular things, you’re either going to miss out or you’re going to wait in line. To think you can do what you want when you want at a popular place is ridiculous, unless you want to do things very few other people want to do, or you want to do non-ticketed things, like just walking around and taking in the atmosphere. If that’s your type of trip, great. But I do agree with you that you and I are very different people. That much we’re in agreement on. |
Oh and I’ve lived in 3 countries too. Big whoop. |
These threads get so weird so fast. It's like an microcosm of how so many people engage in black and white thinking.
Can you do a vacation to Europe (or anyplace) with little planning? Just show up and wander around and see what you can find, enjoying the journey of exploration? Sure! Is that rather hard when you have kids that may be hungry or tired at set times, and may have more limited interests that you do? In my experience, yes, but I recognize that there are some children out there who probably would also love that sort of free-wheeling exploration. (I did, as a kid, from ages 9 or so up....but I was also a weird, socially maladapted kid with weird interests.) Different strokes for different folks, and a time for every purpose under heaven, folks! These vacation debates always strike me a little like someone saying they will only see documentary movies, and that anyone that sees a rom-com lacks intellectual curiosity and are sad, overweight people with limited exposure to the world (but no judgment!), and then people responding that if you don't like rom-coms, it's only because you're going to the wrong ones and are incurably snobby. At the end of the day, who cares? There are lots of people who like both, or who might like one when they are in one mood, and the other when they are in a different mood. I personally could never imagine the people who want to own a vacation home, because I would hate to go to the same place over and over -- but I know so many people who LOVE it and find that familiarity so relaxing. Unless your vacation is to invade the US Congress to thwart democratic processes, I'm not judging! |
Exactly. That’s really the *only* reason I was comparing Disney to Europe. Europe has probably the most highly desirable tourist destinations of any single continent, and Disney is probably the most popular theme park in the world. If you want to do a lot of things at Disney or a major city in Western Europe, you’re going to have to plan. If you don’t, you’ll either wait in long lines or miss out. If you want to just walk around and you don’t necessarily care about what you get done, you can do that. Different strokes for different folks. For both types of vacation, many people will plan, because it’s expensive and they only expect to go once in their lifetime. They want to make sure to check everything off their list. I’ve been to London probably 15 times. At this point (and especially because I haven’t been anywhere in a year), I’d be happy just walking down the street, window shopping and people watching. But that’s largely because I’ve already done pretty much everything I’d want to do in London in terms of tourist attractions. But if I’m bringing someone who’s new, you can sure as hell bet we’re not just showing up at Heathrow with nothing booked. I’m not waiting in line at the freaking Tower of London for 4 hours. I’m booking any tour I can find, just to skip the line. I do the same thing at Disney. |
NP, but....yes....? I would never visit Italy in the summer. |
As long as we’re clear about the fact that Disney isn’t the only place with horrible lines. |
who said it is? |
The criticisms people have of Disney (expensive, long lines, etc.) could be applied to a ton of places. It always seems, in these threads, like people are acting as though Disney is unique in this regard. If they don’t like Disney because of the expense and the long lines, then why are they saying they would prefer to go to Europe, where it’s often also expensive and there are tons of people around? |
Of course. But if I'm going to suck it up and do a vacation that involves horrible lines, I want it to be for something like the Colosseum. Not Dumbo the Flying Elephant. To each his own. |
umm, because Europe has things that I actually want to see and am willing to stand in line for and be around big crowds for? I don't like standing in lines, but I'm willing to do it to see amazing historical sites or tour a fascinating city. I am less willing to do it for a 90 second roller coaster. Come on, this is not that hard. |
You mean a place where Romans used gladiators as slave entertainment? I mean, don’t get me wrong — I went to the Colosseum too, but don’t act like it’s unequivocally superior to a ride. It’s actually a little sick that we all gawk in awe at a place that was used for some absolutely horrific acts. |