‘Slow Streets’ is stupid

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Again, define “largely”. 25%? 40%?

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

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And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

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And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

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Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

No, the issue here is that "transportation" covers a lot of different modes, including bikes. And as such, when we have limited space for transportation, then there needs to be enough space for those different modes to use that space in a rational and safe manner. Dedicating all of that space to cars makes it harder for buses, pedestrians, scooters and bikes. Since buses carry more people than cars, they should be prioritized. Since neither pedestrians nor cyclists generate exhaust fumes or much wear and tear, they should be prioritized.

Sorry, the single occupancy vehicle will sill have some space, but not as much as it did in the 1950's. It just isn't rational or efficient. The Europeans and Asians learned this a few decades ago. It is about time the Americans caught on.

The craziest thing about all of this is that hardly anyone in DC even rides bikes. How many people ride their bicycles ever day? 250? 500? Let's be extremely generous and call it 1,000. There are 350,000 cars registered in DC. There's surely tens of thousands more than aren't registered. Roads should be reserved for cars since that's how the overwhelmingly majority of people in Washington choose to travel.

That is the dumbest argument in a sea of dumb arguments. Let's just keep dedicating space and expense to a mode of transportation that has done nothing but waste space and jack up construction costs for storage in urban areas.

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

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It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

+1

And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

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Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.

Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

+1

And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.

Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.

60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?

[Anonymous]

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.

This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.

This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.

I think that is obvious, but you *clearly* don’t go out drinking with people who bike in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.

This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.

I think that is obvious, but you *clearly* don’t go out drinking with people who bike in DC.

I barely know anyone who bikes in DC, but I don't hang out with white twentysomethings, which probably explains that.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

+1

And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.

Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.

60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?

Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.

If you build it, they will come.

Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.

If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.

Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.

+1

And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.

The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.

You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.

Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)

At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.

Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).

Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.

And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?

Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.

Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.

60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?

Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.

1. That depends on the space given for them. People pick up biking more as there’s safe space for it.
2. Electric bikes are getting more and more affordable. Hope you like eating your words.

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Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.

It's only not practical (for some people) because our leadership for 70 years, has made it that way. There is no reason it cannot change. Mankind managed to survive for several millenia without cars.

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I barely know anyone who bikes in DC, but I don't hang out with white twentysomethings, which probably explains that.

Then you should get outside of your bubble. There are people of all ages, shapes and colors who ride bikes as a mode of commuting on a daily basis. Each one of them represents one less car on the road, one more parking spot for you and reduced carbon in our air and less stress on our healthcare system.

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Your white entitlement is showing.

The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.

If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.

+1

It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.

This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.

I think that is obvious, but you *clearly* don’t go out drinking with people who bike in DC.

I barely know anyone who bikes in DC, but I don't hang out with white twentysomethings, which probably explains that.

I guess I started in my twenties, but now I’m forty. And I have no problem criticizing fellow bicyclists for doing stupid stuff. The big difference: when they do stupid stuff they put themselves at risk. When you do something stupid in your car you put everyone at risk. And believe me, I see all the stupid stuff you all are doing while driving.