‘Slow Streets’ is stupid

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Anonymous wrote:If you are on your bike and see a guy getting really close to you, wave! It's me!

Because there's nothing a "bicyclists are scofflaws!" person likes so much while driving as...scoffing at the law?

DC law requires drivers to exercise due care by leaving a safe distance, but in no case less than three (3) feet, when overtaking and passing a bicycle.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

Right, I'm sure that your anecdotal views based on your single commute is correct, not actual surveys or observations. Plus bike commuting would skyrocket with better biking infrastructure.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

Your opinions are not substitutes for facts. I thought we had established that a few pages ago, but you've clearly already forgotten that anecdotes are not data. Your desperation to cling to your ignorant worldview is seriously puzzling.

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Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

I think that people with vision as bad as yours should not be allowed to drive.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

Right, I'm sure that your anecdotal views based on your single commute is correct, not actual surveys or observations. Plus bike commuting would skyrocket with better biking infrastructure.

These Census Bureau figures say almost twice as many people commute by bike as by Uber/Lyft/cabs. Does that strike anyone as remotely plausible? Don't you tend to see a whole lot more cabs and Ubers on the road than bikes?

The Census Bureau also said the other day that DC's population shrink for the first time in 15 years, and now everyone says that can't be right and there must be something wrong, and yet we're supposed to just blindly just this obviously wrong 4 percent figure. Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

Right, I'm sure that your anecdotal views based on your single commute is correct, not actual surveys or observations. Plus bike commuting would skyrocket with better biking infrastructure.

These Census Bureau figures say almost twice as many people commute by bike as by Uber/Lyft/cabs. Does that strike anyone as remotely plausible? Don't you tend to see a whole lot more cabs and Ubers on the road than bikes?

The Census Bureau also said the other day that DC's population shrink for the first time in 15 years, and now everyone says that can't be right and there must be something wrong, and yet we're supposed to just blindly just this obviously wrong 4 percent figure. Ok.

I honestly can't tell if you're arguing in bad faith or if you're trolling at this point. The 2020 Census had some well-documented issues. The American Community Survey, which is where the commute mode share estimates are generated, is a completely separate survey.

How is the ACS data "obviously wrong?" Why is it "obviously wrong?" Where is your data? Who you can count from behind your windshield is not data.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclist even allowed on roadways if they can't follow traffic signals.

This is a question I ask myself regularly, while driving, about drivers.

Yep. My condo overlooks a four-way stop, and if I got a nickel for each time a car blew through the stop sign, I could buy up the whole damn block. Shoot, if I only got a nickel for each time there were two cars at the stop sign going the same direction and the second one followed the first one without even tapping its brakes, I could still buy up half the block.

The rage directed at cyclists is misplaced. One cyclist killed a pedestrian in DC in the past decade. There were 37 car perpetrated traffic fatalities in 2020 alone, even when there was so much less driving on account of the pandemic. People foaming at the mouth about cyclists need to get a grip. Cyclists are not the problem. They are.

Well, there are 350,000 cars in DC. How many people in DC ride bicycles on a regular basis? 200? 300? Of course, there are going to be more accidents with cars.

I don't know if you're being facetious or grasping at straws, but neither one is a good look.

Four percent of workers in DC commute by bicycle, so 15,435 would be a lower-bound estimate of people riding bicycles on a regular basis: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=commute&g=0400000US11&tid=ACSST1Y2019.S0801&hidePreview=true

Drivers still kill people at a significantly higher rate. Using our lower-bound estimate from above, cyclists would have needed to kill 14 people over the past decade in order to kill at the same rate as drivers over the past decade. Instead, cyclists killed one.

Four percent is obviously wrong (those census figures are based on what people tell them not what people actually do). I spend a fair amount of time of my day driving around DC and I only see a handful of bicyclists each day. It's clearly not four percent. I'd be surprised if even 0.5 percent of commuters ride bikes.

Right, I'm sure that your anecdotal views based on your single commute is correct, not actual surveys or observations. Plus bike commuting would skyrocket with better biking infrastructure.

These Census Bureau figures say almost twice as many people commute by bike as by Uber/Lyft/cabs. Does that strike anyone as remotely plausible? Don't you tend to see a whole lot more cabs and Ubers on the road than bikes?

The Census Bureau also said the other day that DC's population shrink for the first time in 15 years, and now everyone says that can't be right and there must be something wrong, and yet we're supposed to just blindly just this obviously wrong 4 percent figure. Ok.

I can certainly imagine the people who regularly *commute* by uber/lyft/cab is small. And that is a separate number from Uber/Lyft/Cab rides.

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These Census Bureau figures say almost twice as many people commute by bike as by Uber/Lyft/cabs. Does that strike anyone as remotely plausible? Don't you tend to see a whole lot more cabs and Ubers on the road than bikes?

The Census Bureau also said the other day that DC's population shrink for the first time in 15 years, and now everyone says that can't be right and there must be something wrong, and yet we're supposed to just blindly just this obviously wrong 4 percent figure. Ok.

Uh, no. The census showed DC was the 4 fastest growing jurisdiction in the USA. Where do you get your information?