Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide

Anonymous
Restraints coming off each time for this lady and their kids but they 'didn't think they were going to die or anything'?!
And they took off the netting.
No, they should never reopen this thing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/source-boy-decapitated-waterslide-kansas-park-065251273.html
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


Yes, please do tell us of one impressive person who didn't finish HS.

Also, did he have a PE license? Did he hold an engineering degree? He would be a builder if not.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


You need a very specific education to be responsible for other people's safety.
It's very different than thinking, making a computer system or selling something - do what you want. Drop out of school - it's your life.

Designing something that children will ride? Either you have the correct education or you hire a team that does to go over the design.
And you follow their directions.

Why not have him design airplanes ? Because that industry is regulated.
Plenty of people design their own airplanes and fly them - and they often crash. That's fine, do what you want.
But once you are talking about other people riding in the plane you design you need the appropriate education and certifications to design the airplane.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


You need a very specific education to be responsible for other people's safety.
It's very different than thinking, making a computer system or selling something - do what you want. Drop out of school - it's your life.

Designing something that children will ride? Either you have the correct education or you hire a team that does to go over the design.
And you follow their directions.

Why not have him design airplanes ? Because that industry is regulated.
Plenty of people design their own airplanes and fly them - and they often crash. That's fine, do what you want.
But once you are talking about other people riding in the plane you design you need the appropriate education and certifications to design the airplane.



He is NOT an engineer. He is a builder, unless he holds an engineering degree and/or has a PE license.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


You need a very specific education to be responsible for other people's safety.
It's very different than thinking, making a computer system or selling something - do what you want. Drop out of school - it's your life.

Designing something that children will ride? Either you have the correct education or you hire a team that does to go over the design.
And you follow their directions.

Why not have him design airplanes ? Because that industry is regulated.
Plenty of people design their own airplanes and fly them - and they often crash. That's fine, do what you want.
But once you are talking about other people riding in the plane you design you need the appropriate education and certifications to design the airplane.


The National Science Foundation reported this week that approximately 22 percent of the workers in science and engineering fields do not have a bachelor's degree. The report shows that out of 4,682,400 science and engineering employees in the U.S., 225,200 list their highest education as high school, and 811,000 list their highest education as an Associate's degree.
The remainder of the workers reported having a bachelor's (48%), master's (22%), doctorate (7%), or a professional degree (under 2% – including medical, legal and theology degrees).

When the twenty-two percent without bachelor's degrees is broken down further, the data shows that 40% are employed in computer and math science occupations, 20% in engineering occupations, 10% each in life and social sciences, and 7% in physical sciences. The number is proportionally equal between men and women. However, workers of Asian descent only make up 6% of the total, while blacks make up 34% and Hispanics make up 37%.

The study results are available on the NSF's website, and you can also get more information at CNet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


Yes, please do tell us of one impressive person who didn't finish HS.

Also, did he have a PE license? Did he hold an engineering degree? He would be a builder if not.


Builder is a good example. I know some that have dropped out of school and they do a fine job. However, that's why you have a system where you get electrical, plumbing, and structural, inspections on projects. The work has to pass otherwise they have to fix it . The building code regulations are very detailed and standardized. Otherwise gosh knows what would be built.

Even plumbers and electricians who are masters in their trade have had to pass rigorous courses, tests and very specific the job training.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


You need a very specific education to be responsible for other people's safety.
It's very different than thinking, making a computer system or selling something - do what you want. Drop out of school - it's your life.

Designing something that children will ride? Either you have the correct education or you hire a team that does to go over the design.
And you follow their directions.

Why not have him design airplanes ? Because that industry is regulated.
Plenty of people design their own airplanes and fly them - and they often crash. That's fine, do what you want.
But once you are talking about other people riding in the plane you design you need the appropriate education and certifications to design the airplane.


The National Science Foundation reported this week that approximately 22 percent of the workers in science and engineering fields do not have a bachelor's degree. The report shows that out of 4,682,400 science and engineering employees in the U.S., 225,200 list their highest education as high school, and 811,000 list their highest education as an Associate's degree.
The remainder of the workers reported having a bachelor's (48%), master's (22%), doctorate (7%), or a professional degree (under 2% – including medical, legal and theology degrees).

When the twenty-two percent without bachelor's degrees is broken down further, the data shows that 40% are employed in computer and math science occupations, 20% in engineering occupations, 10% each in life and social sciences, and 7% in physical sciences. The number is proportionally equal between men and women. However, workers of Asian descent only make up 6% of the total, while blacks make up 34% and Hispanics make up 37%.

The study results are available on the NSF's website, and you can also get more information at CNet.


Kind of like how you don't need to be a CPA to prepare taxes. The lowly staff person prepares the return using tax docs and tax software then the office CPA signs the return. Same with most fields. The staff do the work and the licensed professionals sign off.

It is NO different in engineering. Yes, a PE needs to SIGN OFF and APPROVE the designs, but those designs are being put together by unlicensed staff that may or may not hold an engineering education.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.


What would you call Steve Jobs? Was he a computer engineer? He had no college degree....

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.


You can be an engineer without a PE but you won't be responsible for designing anything.
No one else is going to sign off on your work - you're going to be working inputting information in a computer somewhere or sticking light bulbs at the Home Depot or whatever while other people with PE's are designing stuff.

http://www.whitewaterwest.com/careers.html

Click on senior engineering jobs at the bottom, see what your qualifications need to be
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.


What would you call Steve Jobs? Was he a computer engineer? He had no college degree....




Steve Jobs was a designer and a marketing genius. Woz was his engineer.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.


You can be an engineer without a PE but you won't be responsible for designing anything.
No one else is going to sign off on your work - you're going to be working inputting information in a computer somewhere or sticking light bulbs at the Home Depot or whatever while other people with PE's are designing stuff.

http://www.whitewaterwest.com/careers.html

Click on senior engineering jobs at the bottom, see what your qualifications need to be


I don't need to because I am one.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In addition to a civil lawsuit, criminal actions should be explored. How this horrific looking contraption could have been open for public use is beyond me.


The guy who designed it is a high school dropout. He dropped out of school at age 24 and he's the 'inventor', the 'creative mind'.
Great idea.
http://grantland.com/features/the-wet-stuff-verruckt-waterslide-schlitterbahn/


So what. He is an engineer. Other pretty impressive people never finished high school or college. What a dumb thing to point out.


who?


For starters....

Richard Branson

Louis Armstrong

Tom Anderson - myspace co founder

Mario Andretti

Julie Andrews

Irving Berlin

John D. Rockefeller

Henry Ford

Francois Pinault

Roseanne Barr

Drew Barrymore

There are thousands - want me to keep going?





None of them are engineers.


Yeah. I mean, I love Julie Andrews as much as anyone, but I wouldn't ride a water slide she designed either.


Where did you say to specify "engineers" - and there are PLENTY who did not finish college. You can be an engineer without being a PE and having a license - someone else signs off on your work.



You can't be an engineer without a college degree though.


What would you call Steve Jobs? Was he a computer engineer? He had no college degree....



I would call him someone who is not responsible for someone else's safety.

I would call him having a job that doesn't require making specific calculations using many equations with experience using approximations and coefficients and factors of safety.
I would call him someone who isn't thinking that netting with structural supports is a good thing for a humans head (versus, say, a sandbag) to be hitting.
I would call him someone who isn't thinking that Velcro straps on a ride with high g forces is a good idea (what do you have in your car? Is it Velcro?).

Visionary and creator of handheld devices is different than safety engineer.
Anonymous
You are correct in not needing a PE license to be an engineer. But civil engineers need a college degree. A civil engineer with a college should have built the slide.
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