Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:It does seem that whatever was going on, it clearly started on Wednesday.

Yep. They had already kidnapped the housekeeper, whose husband's intuition causes him to check to see what's up.

[Anonymous]

It's so sad to read this latest article. It seems like there were a lot of missed opportunities to help this family and housekeeper. I can only imagine what those people are going through, thinking that they could have done something but didn't realize the horror (going on, already done) inside of that home.

There seems to have been so many people at the home on Thursday -- housekeeper's husband; father's associate; a landscaping crew.

The dogs were out back -- the whole time? Wednesday night to Thursday? When the lawn crew was there?

Also, if I were a nearby resident, I would be frightened, too. I don't see any tips from surveillance cameras to engage the public -- except for information on that speeding Porsche.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, why wouldn't the housekeeper who was staying the night call her family herself? Using a landline or whatever phone the husband was using to call the other housekeeper right then? That is definitely shady in the extreme. And that housekeeper's husband came to the house on Thursday morning looking for her and knocked on the door. If autopsies show that at least the housekeeper was dead as of Wednesday evening, does that mean the husband was at least partially responsible?? What if he did the blunt force to the three other victims and then killed himself? Too far fetched?

Sadly, maybe she was already dead and therefore would not be able to call.

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Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?

[Anonymous]

I really hate to go here but I'm starting to think the father did it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really hate to go here but I'm starting to think the father did it.

That's kind of what I'm thinking, but how would the car get to MD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really hate to go here but I'm starting to think the father did it.

But who would have driven the Porsche away and torched it?

[Anonymous]

The Washington Post article reports that the boy and housekeeper have been "tentatively" identified. What on earth could have happened to them that the coroner still cannot positively identify them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Post just posted this article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/housekeeper-of-dc-couple-found-dead-wondered-if-something-was-amiss/2015/05/16/08140154-fbf7-11e4-9030-b4732caefe81_story.html?hpid=z2

I thought there were some interesting updates including a vm to the 2nd housekeeper Wednesday night

and
The police documents also show what appears to be an unusual amount of activity last week around the victims’ Woodland Drive home, in an upscale neighborhood near the vice president’s mansion. Neighbors reported seeing a man banging on door of one home, an aggressive vacuum cleaner salesman at another house, reports of a prowler, and what a witness believed could have been the Savopouloses’ blue Porsche speeding down the street the day before the deaths were discovered.

That article definitely has a lot of new info. Sounds like both housekeepers had worked for the family for a long time. It seems very strange that the housekeeper spent the night since the 2nd housekeeper said the former would "never" spend the night. Also odd that Savvas asked her to inform the other housekeeper's family because her phone battery was dead..why didn't he inform them himself?

This is bone-chilling to consider, but Savvas may not have called Figueroa's (the family's longtime housekeeper who was in the home that fateful day) family himself, because she was likely already dead or incapacitated on Wednesday evening when Savvas left Gutierrez (the family's other longtime housekeeper, the one who was not in the house that day) the message Wednesday evening asking her to call up Figueroa's family (whose number he knew Gutierrez must have, as they were close friends), to inform them that Figueroa would be staying at the Savopoulos's house that night.

If Figueroa was already dead or incapacitated on Wednesday evening, then Savvas (and any perpetrator) would have no way to open/unlock her cellphone - as they likely did not know the password - to inform Figueroa's family that she would be staying with the Savopoulos family, and not be coming home that night -- so that Figueroa's family would not come looking for her. By mentioning to Gutierrez that Figueroa's phone was dead, it meant that Figueroa's family would not question it when they could not reach her by phone on Wednesday evening to discuss or verify "her" altered plans.

It potentially bought "someone" an additional 12-18 hours free from any scrutiny. The question is, was Savvas coerced into making those calls and texts, or was something else at play here?

It broke my heart to read in the very informative Washington Post article linked above that Figueroa's husband came to the Savopoulos's house early the next morning looking for her, and left when no one answered his knocks. This is true a tragedy for everyone concerned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post article reports that the boy and housekeeper have been "tentatively" identified. What on earth could have happened to them that the coroner still cannot positively identify them?

They were in a fire, and probably didn't have dental records to make them quickly identifiable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post article reports that the boy and housekeeper have been "tentatively" identified. What on earth could have happened to them that the coroner still cannot positively identify them?

if the fox reporter's tweet that was posted earlier today is correct, the fire was started in the boy's room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?

Link please.

There was a strange dark truck in our MoCo neighborhood today with an odd vacuum in the back. White man, dark curly hair. White woman (slightly younger) in passenger seat with dark hair. Driving around, asking questions about neighbors and vehicles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Post just posted this article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/housekeeper-of-dc-couple-found-dead-wondered-if-something-was-amiss/2015/05/16/08140154-fbf7-11e4-9030-b4732caefe81_story.html?hpid=z2

I thought there were some interesting updates including a vm to the 2nd housekeeper Wednesday night

and
The police documents also show what appears to be an unusual amount of activity last week around the victims’ Woodland Drive home, in an upscale neighborhood near the vice president’s mansion. Neighbors reported seeing a man banging on door of one home, an aggressive vacuum cleaner salesman at another house, reports of a prowler, and what a witness believed could have been the Savopouloses’ blue Porsche speeding down the street the day before the deaths were discovered.

That article definitely has a lot of new info. Sounds like both housekeepers had worked for the family for a long time. It seems very strange that the housekeeper spent the night since the 2nd housekeeper said the former would "never" spend the night. Also odd that Savvas asked her to inform the other housekeeper's family because her phone battery was dead..why didn't he inform them himself?

probably didn't have the family's number

But theoretically the housekeeper was nearby..wouldn't she have/know the #? She could've called from one of their phones. I dunno, I may be reading into it too much.

I actually think that's a pretty valid point, people in their late 40's in a large house are not the demographics that have completely done away with landlines. I'm assuming they still had one because well, I think it makes sense, but why couldn't she have just picked up the landline and called herself if her battery was legitimately dead?

PP, the link to the Washington Post article with the aggressive vacuum seller, man knocking on door and prowler is listed in this post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?

Link please.

There was a strange dark truck in our MoCo neighborhood today with an odd vacuum in the back. White man, dark curly hair. White woman (slightly younger) in passenger seat with dark hair. Driving around, asking questions about neighbors and vehicles.

OMG. This is really creepy. Did you speak with them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?

Link please.

There was a strange dark truck in our MoCo neighborhood today with an odd vacuum in the back. White man, dark curly hair. White woman (slightly younger) in passenger seat with dark hair. Driving around, asking questions about neighbors and vehicles.

OMG. This is really creepy. Did you speak with them?

A neighbor did.