Fire in upper NW?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?



Link please.

There was a strange dark truck in our MoCo neighborhood today with an odd vacuum in the back. White man, dark curly hair. White woman (slightly younger) in passenger seat with dark hair. Driving around, asking questions about neighbors and vehicles.


OMG. This is really creepy. Did you speak with them?


A neighbor did.


Do you think they were reported to the police?
Anonymous
.@DCPoliceDept Chief Lanier says 3 victims suffered blunt or sharp force trauma. Phillip. 10 his father and housekeeper. @wusa9

https://mobile.twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/599323634558205952


So the mother is (maybe) the one who did not have wounds/trauma..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post article reports that the boy and housekeeper have been "tentatively" identified. What on earth could have happened to them that the coroner still cannot positively identify them?


They were in a fire, and probably didn't have dental records to make them quickly identifiable.


im sadly picturing the housekeeper and the boy together in the boy's room where the fire started - maybe their bodies were the most harmed by the fire and that's why identification needs to be made in a more time consuming manner.

To the PP who posited that the alive housekeeper seemed cold, she's interviewee here and does not seem cold, she seems genuine and forthcoming and upset to me: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/05/4-found-dead-after-house-fire-were-homicide-victims-police-say-114003.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:.@DCPoliceDept Chief Lanier says 3 victims suffered blunt or sharp force trauma. Phillip. 10 his father and housekeeper. @wusa9

https://mobile.twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/599323634558205952


So the mother is (maybe) the one who did not have wounds/trauma..


Oh that makes my heart hurt. I was really hoping the child was spared additional trauma. I hope he was unconscious if fire/smoke was ultimately the cause of death. I pray he felt no pain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post article reports that the boy and housekeeper have been "tentatively" identified. What on earth could have happened to them that the coroner still cannot positively identify them?


They were in a fire, and probably didn't have dental records to make them quickly identifiable.


im sadly picturing the housekeeper and the boy together in the boy's room where the fire started - maybe their bodies were the most harmed by the fire and that's why identification needs to be made in a more time consuming manner.

To the PP who posited that the alive housekeeper seemed cold, she's interviewee here and does not seem cold, she seems genuine and forthcoming and upset to me: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/05/4-found-dead-after-house-fire-were-homicide-victims-police-say-114003.html


Makes me cry. I agree with your insights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Washington Post article comments on "aggressive vacuum sales person, man banging on door of home" and suspected prowler on street last week. No video? No request for public to help find "persons of interest?"

No neighborhood watch or patrol cars after the prowler report?



Link please.

There was a strange dark truck in our MoCo neighborhood today with an odd vacuum in the back. White man, dark curly hair. White woman (slightly younger) in passenger seat with dark hair. Driving around, asking questions about neighbors and vehicles.


OMG. This is really creepy. Did you speak with them?


A neighbor did.


Do you think they were reported to the police?


PP, was it a pickup truck with an actual vacuum in it, or a dart van/truck with a picture of a vacuum on it? Were they actually selling vacuums? Who sells things like that door to door anymore?
Anonymous
It still seems most likely -- with this collection of facts -- that it was the home invasion scenario. The intruders came in sometime Wednesday night, captured the family, and said they would be released unharmed on Thursday after a major withdrawal from a bank (banks don't open early -- sometimes 9:30 or even 10 am). In this scenario, they would not have allowed the housekeeper to leave but would have needed an explanation so her family did not report her missing to police. With his wife and child held captive, the father would have had the motivation to be convincing to try to preserve the status quo and keep everyone alive with cooperation.

On Thursday morning, after the intruders got more money, they killed all of them and set the fire to destroy evidence. They were long gone by the time the flames had engulfed the house enough for the alarm to go off. The Porsche may have been used by one of the parents to go get money from the bank, and then abandoned by the criminals who had an accompanying vehicle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the wife and housekeeper were killed on Wednesday.
Saavas spoke to his sister on Thursday and was untroubled, WaPo reported.
Anonymous
i'm merely speculating and throwing out possibilities, but is there a chance there was something at the father's office that the perp(s) knew about and wanted? a safe? maybe that's why the car was abandoned not too far from the father's office? again, i have no evidence to support this theory, and i'm not even sure i think it's what happened..just thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the wife and housekeeper were killed on Wednesday.
Saavas spoke to his sister on Thursday and was untroubled, WaPo reported.


yeah, this is the one thing that doesn't make sense.
But everything else points to things starting to get very strange Wed night.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:i'm merely speculating and throwing out possibilities, but is there a chance there was something at the father's office that the perp(s) knew about and wanted? a safe? maybe that's why the car was abandoned not too far from the father's office? again, i have no evidence to support this theory, and i'm not even sure i think it's what happened..just thinking.


I was thinking "payroll," and then thinking, 'no, nobody pays with cash anymore,' but perhaps in an industry with lots of casual day laborers a business would keep lots of cash on hand at the office?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the wife and housekeeper were killed on Wednesday.
Saavas spoke to his sister on Thursday and was untroubled, WaPo reported.


yeah, this is the one thing that doesn't make sense.
But everything else points to things starting to get very strange Wed night.


Unless he held it together well in a short conversation -- again, under duress -- and she didn't pick up anything in a short telephone call?

Anonymous
Just read a tweet from Bruce Leshan that MoCO police are at home next to Rockville murdered couple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just read a tweet from Bruce Leshan that MoCO police are at home next to Rockville murdered couple.


omg i just got chills..neighbors say they havent been seen since the murders
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just read a tweet from Bruce Leshan that MoCO police are at home next to Rockville murdered couple.


omg i just got chills..neighbors say they havent been seen since the murders


He tweeted what you wrote, as well. I don't know how to post his tweets.

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