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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.

And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.

Why would they be undocumented? Is there any country in the world where a child of two citizens is not automatically a citizen of that country?

In the United States if only one parent is a citizen (particularly the father) there’s a significant paperwork aspect to children born abroad.

And I’m sure your idea is that the goons rounding up American citizens from their high schools will be facilitating the access of their parents to consular services from third countries?

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

And again— your dream detention and deportation centers are going to facilitate access for Mexican consular officials?

Because if so, prepare your kid to see a lot of social media and other images of their classmates being locked up in horrible conditions because of how you don’t like ESOL in the classroom. That’s going to age really well.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

And again— your dream detention and deportation centers are going to facilitate access for Mexican consular officials?

Because if so, prepare your kid to see a lot of social media and other images of their classmates being locked up in horrible conditions because of how you don’t like ESOL in the classroom. That’s going to age really well.

Nah, they blur the faces of minors.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

And again— your dream detention and deportation centers are going to facilitate access for Mexican consular officials?

Because if so, prepare your kid to see a lot of social media and other images of their classmates being locked up in horrible conditions because of how you don’t like ESOL in the classroom. That’s going to age really well.

Nah, they blur the faces of minors.

Minors won’t blur their own faces in their own social media and other photos.

And they will still be connected to your kids on social media. Enjoy telling your kids how great it is that the classmates they’ve had their whole lives are locked up. I’m sure they’ll admire you.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

I mean, maybe the law should change about them enrolling to begin with.....

Yes bc having tons of kids not in school during the day wouldn’t lead to worse problems, like crime.

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I hope this thread gets shut down soon. It’s vile and racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.

And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.

Why would they be undocumented? Is there any country in the world where a child of two citizens is not automatically a citizen of that country?

In the United States if only one parent is a citizen (particularly the father) there’s a significant paperwork aspect to children born abroad.

And I’m sure your idea is that the goons rounding up American citizens from their high schools will be facilitating the access of their parents to consular services from third countries?

Who's rounding up American citizens? What are you on about?

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.

And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.

Why would they be undocumented? Is there any country in the world where a child of two citizens is not automatically a citizen of that country?

In the United States if only one parent is a citizen (particularly the father) there’s a significant paperwork aspect to children born abroad.

And I’m sure your idea is that the goons rounding up American citizens from their high schools will be facilitating the access of their parents to consular services from third countries?

Who's rounding up American citizens? What are you on about?

Children born in the United States are U.S. citizens. Your friends here are suggesting they be deported with their undocumented parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.

And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.

Why would they be undocumented? Is there any country in the world where a child of two citizens is not automatically a citizen of that country?

In the United States if only one parent is a citizen (particularly the father) there’s a significant paperwork aspect to children born abroad.

And I’m sure your idea is that the goons rounding up American citizens from their high schools will be facilitating the access of their parents to consular services from third countries?

Who's rounding up American citizens? What are you on about?

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As always, certain posters have taken the worst possible hypothetical they can think of and turned it into "fact." This isn't even a hypothetical though, it's utter nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

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I walk my dogs around the park across from one of these schools, every day there are kids using fentanyl who come from the same communities subject to deportation. It's scary for me. I'm sure it's sure it's scary for the other kids at the school. Start with the drug users and trouble makers.

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Anonymous wrote:I walk my dogs around the park across from one of these schools, every day there are kids using fentanyl who come from the same communities subject to deportation. It's scary for me. I'm sure it's sure it's scary for the other kids at the school. Start with the drug users and trouble makers.

Yup just like they thought last time.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Their families would have to coordinate getting them citizenship in other places. Their parents created the situation they are in and their parents should fix it.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Their families would have to coordinate getting them citizenship in other places. Their parents created the situation they are in and their parents should fix it.

You want their parents locked up. People don’t “coordinate” much from federal detention. So if the kids are deported you’re sending U.S. citizens abroad undocumented— not their parents creating the situation , this is your good idea for how to treat U.S. citizens you don’t consider worthy to sit near your kids.