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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Their families would have to coordinate getting them citizenship in other places. Their parents created the situation they are in and their parents should fix it.

You want their parents locked up. People don’t “coordinate” much from federal detention. So if the kids are deported you’re sending U.S. citizens abroad undocumented— not their parents creating the situation , this is your good idea for how to treat U.S. citizens you don’t consider worthy to sit near your kids.

Looks like they should plan ahead an get their plans in order. It was their idea to cross the border without permission and their issue to resolve.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Again, the whole straw man argument that their US-born kids would be not be allowed home with them (whether they leave the US voluntarily or otherwise) is just plain wrong. Compared to immigrating to the US (again, legally or sneaking in, overstaying their visas, etc), the process to get the kids citizenship in their parents' country is trivial, practically automatic once they seek it. That's on them when they get there or before if they seek out their country's consulate elsewhere. I teach my children to obey the laws of this country and others that they visit, so the repeated claims that they will see things that will disturb them don't carry a lot of weight. I don't expect mass deportations of the magnitude the fear mongers on here suggest, but your arguments just don't hold water either way.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Again, the whole straw man argument that their US-born kids would be not be allowed home with them (whether they leave the US voluntarily or otherwise) is just plain wrong. Compared to immigrating to the US (again, legally or sneaking in, overstaying their visas, etc), the process to get the kids citizenship in their parents' country is trivial, practically automatic once they seek it. That's on them when they get there or before if they seek out their country's consulate elsewhere. I teach my children to obey the laws of this country and others that they visit, so the repeated claims that they will see things that will disturb them don't carry a lot of weight. I don't expect mass deportations of the magnitude the fear mongers on here suggest, but your arguments just don't hold water either way.

Citation needed.

You just don’t like these kids— and again we’re on the Ed board talking about kids— and the fact that they had no choice in or participation in the crimes you feel they’re responsible for doesn’t resonate. Just own that you don’t care what happens to your children’s classmates Your kids hopefully will be smart enough to realize a child isn’t responsible for their parents actions even if you lack the nuance.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Their families would have to coordinate getting them citizenship in other places. Their parents created the situation they are in and their parents should fix it.

You want their parents locked up. People don’t “coordinate” much from federal detention. So if the kids are deported you’re sending U.S. citizens abroad undocumented— not their parents creating the situation , this is your good idea for how to treat U.S. citizens you don’t consider worthy to sit near your kids.

Looks like they should plan ahead an get their plans in order. It was their idea to cross the border without permission and their issue to resolve.

Always crying and hating someone huh?!

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Again, the whole straw man argument that their US-born kids would be not be allowed home with them (whether they leave the US voluntarily or otherwise) is just plain wrong. Compared to immigrating to the US (again, legally or sneaking in, overstaying their visas, etc), the process to get the kids citizenship in their parents' country is trivial, practically automatic once they seek it. That's on them when they get there or before if they seek out their country's consulate elsewhere. I teach my children to obey the laws of this country and others that they visit, so the repeated claims that they will see things that will disturb them don't carry a lot of weight. I don't expect mass deportations of the magnitude the fear mongers on here suggest, but your arguments just don't hold water either way.

Citation needed.

You just don’t like these kids— and again we’re on the Ed board talking about kids— and the fact that they had no choice in or participation in the crimes you feel they’re responsible for doesn’t resonate. Just own that you don’t care what happens to your children’s classmates Your kids hopefully will be smart enough to realize a child isn’t responsible for their parents actions even if you lack the nuance.

Do your own homework, or at least use ChatGPT. You were given a couple of examples, but feel free to check on the country of your choice. Very, very few countries impose any hurdles for returning citizens with children born elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

We expect the parents to obey the laws dingbat. If you're here illegally, better get your affairs in order. The gravy train is shutting down.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

We expect the parents to obey the laws dingbat. If you're here illegally, better get your affairs in order. The gravy train is shutting down.

And the parents? Aren’t in Justice or Falls Church high school. They’re working for the people you voted for at illegally low wages in illegally poor conditions. Their minor children are, and this is a thread about those schools. You’re salivating over rounding up and deporting children. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

I sure hope you didn’t vote for Trump if you believe laws should be followed.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.

This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.

Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).

The point is that IF undocumented parents return home with their US-born children, the NORM is for their children to become citizens of the parents' home country rather seamlessly with a stop at the country's consulate in another country or once they get home. That's true of almost all countries, with only a few exceptions. So the parents don't have to be separated from their children if they return to their home countries, whether voluntarily or otherwise.

Again, you’re saying you believe that the people in charge of rounding up and detaining undocumented migrants (and their U.S. citizen children) are going to let them have access to the consular services of the Mexican or Honduran governments in the United States? Otherwise yeah— you’re saying U.S. citizens should become undocumented elsewhere. At least own your position, you’re going to have to explain it to your own kids one day.

Their families would have to coordinate getting them citizenship in other places. Their parents created the situation they are in and their parents should fix it.

You want their parents locked up. People don’t “coordinate” much from federal detention. So if the kids are deported you’re sending U.S. citizens abroad undocumented— not their parents creating the situation , this is your good idea for how to treat U.S. citizens you don’t consider worthy to sit near your kids.

Most countries award citizenship based on being born to a citizen. The US born children of Mexican/Korean/Indian/French undocumented workers, and there are people from all over the world in the US illegally, are dual citizens. They might not have passport from their parents home country but they are citizens. They are not going to be undocumented citizens in their parent’s home country.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

We expect the parents to obey the laws dingbat. If you're here illegally, better get your affairs in order. The gravy train is shutting down.

And the parents? Aren’t in Justice or Falls Church high school. They’re working for the people you voted for at illegally low wages in illegally poor conditions. Their minor children are, and this is a thread about those schools. You’re salivating over rounding up and deporting children. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

You sound unhinged. Go out for a walk or something.

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

We expect the parents to obey the laws dingbat. If you're here illegally, better get your affairs in order. The gravy train is shutting down.

If you hire illegals you should also use e-verify so you don’t provide money to the “illegals”

If a practicing physician or Uber driver can be locked up for helping a woman get an abortion, why not lock up those who hire illegals?

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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.

Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.

You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.

Nah, they can all go together.

Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”

If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.

And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.

We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.

See this is MAGA~no empathy, no kindness...just a lot of hate and greed. Jesus would be so proud

What greed? What hate?

Expecting laws to be followed is showing lack of empathy? You sound unhinged.

Expecting infants or toddlers to “obey laws” is what’s unhinged. That’s who is in schools with your kids now. Not people who knowingly broke any laws coming here. That’s who you’re being asked to show empathy for.

We expect the parents to obey the laws dingbat. If you're here illegally, better get your affairs in order. The gravy train is shutting down.

If you hire illegals you should also use e-verify so you don’t provide money to the “illegals”

If a practicing physician or Uber driver can be locked up for helping a woman get an abortion, why not lock up those who hire illegals?

Yeah but PP doesn’t want to punish the children of *those* criminals. They’re wealthy and white.