Deportation impact

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If you’re holding your breath for these deportations, don’t. The parents of my students who have been deported have always returned. Always.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.


I think we are making a choice as a public policy. This problem has gone on for centuries - it's part of American history. Same thing that's being discussed now was the same thing discussed during the early 1900s. Don't act as if we have no choice - you want this and you are willing accept every harm that comes out it. Don't try to stop the rest of us to find better humane solutions by stating "out of our hands". We know what 16 million means.. Open border is on no one's plate - don't go there.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.


I mean, maybe the law should change about them enrolling to begin with.....
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


There is no way for kids to stop their parents from being deported. All the trauma can be laid at the feet of the parents who broke the law.

Test scores most certainly will go up. Classrooms can focus again. And before anyone says it, our school does not have ongoing behavior issues with American kids.


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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


We're not making that choice. The parents made that choice when they came here. They can return to their home country at any time and attempt return legally.


If you say so.

An interesting sociological study exists on the views of German children about their parents who were adults during WWII. It might be an interesting read if you think your children will look at this time in U.S. history and think “oh yes, those incarcerated children should absolutely have blames their parents”
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.


And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.


And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.


Never said undocumented
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


Well, I'm hoping birthright citizenship changes....but yes, deport the non-citizen and if the illegal parents don't want to leave their kid, they can bring the citizen with them.


And now you’re advocating that American citizens become undocumented residents of other countries.


Why would they be undocumented? Is there any country in the world where a child of two citizens is not automatically a citizen of that country?
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.


This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.


This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.


Similar in Honduras: Honduras allows children born abroad to claim Honduran citizenship if at least one parent is a Honduran national. Parents can register the child’s birth at a Honduran consulate, granting the child Honduran nationality. (Article 24 of the Honduran Constitution).
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Anonymous wrote:Likely impact? Traumatized kids who are U.S. citizens by birth getting pulled out of school to keep their parents from being deported. Traumatized teens finding out that kids they’ve known for years are being rounded up and put in detention centers for the crime of existing. A lot of teens finding out how hypocritical their parents beliefs are.

And the scores will not improve significantly.


Eh, I voted Dem up until this election. I’m sick of the leftist school board and my compassion well has run dry. It’s been used up on all the F’ing equity bs.


You’re talking about detaining and deporting children from the only homes they’ve known. Respectfully, I don’t think this was a particularly deep well at the outset.


Nah, they can all go together.


Yeah? We can deport U.S. citizens with their non-citizen family members? What a great insight into the depths of your “compassion”


If the parents committed the crime of entering illegally and have a child who is a citizen, the compassionate thing to do is to pay for the child to be transported with the parents and keep the family together.

Americans who commit crimes go to jail, whether they have children or not and no one cries about "don't separate the family!"

In the case that their citizen children have other family who are citizens willing to care for them, that is an option the parents can use. That's what happens to Americans. They commit crimes and their children go to aunt, grandpa, or cousin if both parents are jailed. We don't allow them to remain free and untouched because they have children.


And if the children aren’t legal citizens of the first country, having been born in the United States? You think the U.S. should pay for individuals to commit crimes?

Look, when you guys were talking about people committing crimes, I had sympathy for your views. If you were talking about the appalling conditions in meat packing factories which are allowed to persist because undocumented workers don’t have recourse to complain about them, I’d think you had a really good point.

But you’re talking about ripping kids out of classrooms and putting them in detention centers. I hope your children are proud of you.


Claudia Sheinbaum has said she is ready to receive deported Mexicans. Hopefully other countries are too. These are problems created by their own citizens so they should be the ones to find solutions. Hopefully they offer long term visas or citizenship for children born abroad if the parent is a citizen.


This is a non-issue: Mexico grants citizenship to children born abroad if at least one parent is a Mexican citizen. The parents can register the child's birth at a Mexican consulate, obtaining Mexican nationality for the child. This allows the child to enter and stay in Mexico as a citizen.


And what proportion of undocumented individuals are Mexican?
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