Deportation impact

[Anonymous]

There are estimates that over 10% of the students in FCPS have parents that are here illegally even if the kids are here legally (birthright citizenship).

We are not going to be deporting all those families.

But we should absolutely close the border and deport anyone that gets arrested but we shouldn't be wasting time and resources hunting down illegal aliens to deport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are estimates that over 10% of the students in FCPS have parents that are here illegally even if the kids are here legally (birthright citizenship).

We are not going to be deporting all those families.

But we should absolutely close the border and deport anyone that gets arrested but we shouldn't be wasting time and resources hunting down illegal aliens to deport.

Where did you see those estimates? Based on the number of non English speaking older kids showing up throughout the year, there are likely a lot of the students that would fall into this category, not just parents. Its also very concentrated in certain pyramids so wouldn't call it wasted time and resources. It would alleviate a lot of the issues in those pyramids.

[Anonymous]

I love our equity warriors. Instead of addressing the problem, they just want to cover it up.

Do they truly think that putting affluent kids in the schools will help kids who come here speaking no English and, just maybe, not having been in school at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are estimates that over 10% of the students in FCPS have parents that are here illegally even if the kids are here legally (birthright citizenship).

We are not going to be deporting all those families.

But we should absolutely close the border and deport anyone that gets arrested but we shouldn't be wasting time and resources hunting down illegal aliens to deport.

Why not? Maybe we should. Not maybe, actually. We actually should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are estimates that over 10% of the students in FCPS have parents that are here illegally even if the kids are here legally (birthright citizenship).

We are not going to be deporting all those families.

But we should absolutely close the border and deport anyone that gets arrested but we shouldn't be wasting time and resources hunting down illegal aliens to deport.

Why not? Maybe we should. Not maybe, actually. We actually should.

Cut off access to employment and government services and they may self-deport. It's insane that you can be illegal and still utilize government services

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are estimates that over 10% of the students in FCPS have parents that are here illegally even if the kids are here legally (birthright citizenship).

We are not going to be deporting all those families.

But we should absolutely close the border and deport anyone that gets arrested but we shouldn't be wasting time and resources hunting down illegal aliens to deport.

Why not? Maybe we should. Not maybe, actually. We actually should.

Cut off access to employment and government services and they may self-deport. It's insane that you can be illegal and still utilize government services

Undoubtedly, many FCPS parents in the county unlawfully will “self-deport,” either back to their countries or to other areas of the country they may view as “safer” from the threat of an ICE raid.

The FCPS school board needs to postpone their boundary review for at least one year until this issue settles.

[Anonymous]

Astonishingly depressing to see how uncharitable, selfish, and myopic some of the commenters here are.

You're going to have a very rude awakening when the U.S. economy complete crashes and our only allies are Russia and Saudi Arabia and many of us will be refugees. May you get the treatment you deserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Astonishingly depressing to see how uncharitable, selfish, and myopic some of the commenters here are.

You're going to have a very rude awakening when the U.S. economy complete crashes and our only allies are Russia and Saudi Arabia and many of us will be refugees. May you get the treatment you deserve.

You are oh so generous with other peoples money. Virtue signal on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Astonishingly depressing to see how uncharitable, selfish, and myopic some of the commenters here are.

You're going to have a very rude awakening when the U.S. economy complete crashes and our only allies are Russia and Saudi Arabia and many of us will be refugees. May you get the treatment you deserve.

You are oh so generous with other peoples money. Virtue signal on.

And you are raising children with that perspective? It’s attitudes like that that make me think this country will never dig itself out of this dark depressing hole.

Agree with the previous poster, the lack of empathy is astounding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Astonishingly depressing to see how uncharitable, selfish, and myopic some of the commenters here are.

You're going to have a very rude awakening when the U.S. economy complete crashes and our only allies are Russia and Saudi Arabia and many of us will be refugees. May you get the treatment you deserve.

You are oh so generous with other peoples money. Virtue signal on.

And you are raising children with that perspective? It’s attitudes like that that make me think this country will never dig itself out of this dark depressing hole.

Agree with the previous poster, the lack of empathy is astounding.

So, you get to decide how to spend my money? Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Astonishingly depressing to see how uncharitable, selfish, and myopic some of the commenters here are.

You're going to have a very rude awakening when the U.S. economy complete crashes and our only allies are Russia and Saudi Arabia and many of us will be refugees. May you get the treatment you deserve.

How idiotic

[Anonymous]

Our title 1 school hasn’t had any deportations but we also haven’t had any new students from other countries and we usually had regular arrivals.

I am so torn over it all. When I started at my school, I was feeling inspired and like I was doing good working with this population. 4 years later and it’s starting to burn me out. These families don’t care about anything we do and we are bending over backwards to get these kids to meet state standards. They get every free second of our time for intervention and help. The families don’t appreciate it. They just drop their kids off and that’s it’s. There are several parents I’ve never even laid eyes on and most days I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our title 1 school hasn’t had any deportations but we also haven’t had any new students from other countries and we usually had regular arrivals.

I am so torn over it all. When I started at my school, I was feeling inspired and like I was doing good working with this population. 4 years later and it’s starting to burn me out. These families don’t care about anything we do and we are bending over backwards to get these kids to meet state standards. They get every free second of our time for intervention and help. The families don’t appreciate it. They just drop their kids off and that’s it’s. There are several parents I’ve never even laid eyes on and most days I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall.

Yep. And meanwhile, while all this attention is lavished on the non-English speakers, the other kids continue to get shafted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our title 1 school hasn’t had any deportations but we also haven’t had any new students from other countries and we usually had regular arrivals.

I am so torn over it all. When I started at my school, I was feeling inspired and like I was doing good working with this population. 4 years later and it’s starting to burn me out. These families don’t care about anything we do and we are bending over backwards to get these kids to meet state standards. They get every free second of our time for intervention and help. The families don’t appreciate it. They just drop their kids off and that’s it’s. There are several parents I’ve never even laid eyes on and most days I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall.

Yep. And meanwhile, while all this attention is lavished on the non-English speakers, the other kids continue to get shafted.

Maybe a perspective shift is in order. I'm a teacher. Those families who you've never laid eyes on are just trying to survive. They trust you with their kids. They don't feel comfortable communicating with you. They trust you. They trust the school. They don't care about test scores, nor should they.

Maybe the real problem here is how we are testing students to death and how we have all bowed down to a system (NCLB) that was DESIGNED TO MAKE SCHOOLS LOOK BAD.

When I was teaching in 1994, we got a new student from El Salvador in January. Placed in 7th grade due to her age, she had never held a pencil much less read a book. By the end of June, she could properly hold a pencil, have conversations in English, recognize the alphabet and all letter sounds, and she could write her name and a few simple words. She had two friends. By the end of 8th grade, she could read high/low books at about the 2nd grade level.

That is a HUGE victory for immensely successful public schools. But under todays testing, she'd be failing. Worse yet, I'd be forced to instruct and assess her on grade level, so school wouod be nothing but relentless failure.

It's all a setup. The problem is not the kids. The problem is the pressure you feel to teach to a test that was literally designed to make you and all public schools look bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our title 1 school hasn’t had any deportations but we also haven’t had any new students from other countries and we usually had regular arrivals.

I am so torn over it all. When I started at my school, I was feeling inspired and like I was doing good working with this population. 4 years later and it’s starting to burn me out. These families don’t care about anything we do and we are bending over backwards to get these kids to meet state standards. They get every free second of our time for intervention and help. The families don’t appreciate it. They just drop their kids off and that’s it’s. There are several parents I’ve never even laid eyes on and most days I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall.

Yep. And meanwhile, while all this attention is lavished on the non-English speakers, the other kids continue to get shafted.

Maybe a perspective shift is in order. I'm a teacher. Those families who you've never laid eyes on are just trying to survive. They trust you with their kids. They don't feel comfortable communicating with you. They trust you. They trust the school. They don't care about test scores, nor should they.

Maybe the real problem here is how we are testing students to death and how we have all bowed down to a system (NCLB) that was DESIGNED TO MAKE SCHOOLS LOOK BAD.

When I was teaching in 1994, we got a new student from El Salvador in January. Placed in 7th grade due to her age, she had never held a pencil much less read a book. By the end of June, she could properly hold a pencil, have conversations in English, recognize the alphabet and all letter sounds, and she could write her name and a few simple words. She had two friends. By the end of 8th grade, she could read high/low books at about the 2nd grade level.

That is a HUGE victory for immensely successful public schools. But under todays testing, she'd be failing. Worse yet, I'd be forced to instruct and assess her on grade level, so school wouod be nothing but relentless failure.

It's all a setup. The problem is not the kids. The problem is the pressure you feel to teach to a test that was literally designed to make you and all public schools look bad.

I agree with the testing. Even the native English speakers are falling into “high risk” on the new VALLS test and Benchmark has made things difficult for everyone.

I know they trust us but I also have families that care and respond and have some understanding of the American school system even if translation is required.

These other families don’t get it. They come in kindergarten without knowing their name, still drinking bottles at home, barely potty trained. They are immature and just want to play and it takes a whole school year to learn 10-15 letter sounds. That is not normal 5 year old development and the parents don’t care. I understand they might be trying to survive but they should also have some understanding of how things work if they wanted to be here so badly.