DDOT's latest plan to destroy traffic, Georgia Avenue edition

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

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Why is the anti-car crowd always so perceptibly angry? They think telling people that they are angry, and using insults and curse words, really is going to make us think "wow they are serious we need to do what they say". That is not how influence works.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

I guess Jocelynn Johnson has a bunch of spare time to troll DCUM now since she got booted from her Ward 4 position because of her militant anti-road diet crap she's been pulling.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

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Why is the anti-car crowd always so perceptibly angry? They think telling people that they are angry, and using insults and curse words, really is going to make us think "wow they are serious we need to do what they say". That is not how influence works.

Why aren't you angry about the damage, injuries, and deaths caused by drivers? Multiple people I grew up or went to school with were killed in car crashes. Three trees in my yard have been hit by cars. I have to drive to my neighbor's house because it's too dangerous to walk. I won't let my kid bike to school. Several kids at my kid's school have been hit by cars. I worry about my dad every time he walks to the synagogue, because drivers routinely run the red light where he crosses the road. A car crashed into the bubble tea place near my parents, with people inside the store. Yeah, I'm angry.

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Not sure when DC will figure out that without police enforcement of traffic laws (instead of just relying on cameras), behavior won't change. Let's pull people over for distracted driving, smoking pot while driving, speeding, illegal right turns on red, etc. The cameras are a complete and total joke, and everyone knows it.

We're also sitting here wondering why people have become crazier drivers in the past few years, and maybe we should also remember how the past few years marked the point at which police enforcement of traffic laws stopped. I haven't seen a police pull over a driver anywhere in DC in the last five years. Have you?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure when DC will figure out that without police enforcement of traffic laws (instead of just relying on cameras), behavior won't change. Let's pull people over for distracted driving, smoking pot while driving, speeding, illegal right turns on red, etc. The cameras are a complete and total joke, and everyone knows it.

We're also sitting here wondering why people have become crazier drivers in the past few years, and maybe we should also remember how the past few years marked the point at which police enforcement of traffic laws stopped. I haven't seen a police pull over a driver anywhere in DC in the last five years. Have you?

Yes, I have.

But the same people complaining about the changes proposed for Georgia Ave are the same people who also opposed camera traffic enforcement. We need both.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure when DC will figure out that without police enforcement of traffic laws (instead of just relying on cameras), behavior won't change. Let's pull people over for distracted driving, smoking pot while driving, speeding, illegal right turns on red, etc. The cameras are a complete and total joke, and everyone knows it.

We're also sitting here wondering why people have become crazier drivers in the past few years, and maybe we should also remember how the past few years marked the point at which police enforcement of traffic laws stopped. I haven't seen a police pull over a driver anywhere in DC in the last five years. Have you?

This. I haven’t seen numbers for DC but the numbers in SF are astonishing. SF recently turned it around: https://sfstandard.com/2024/09/05/sfpd-traffic-violations-triple/

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

+1

Why is the anti-car crowd always so perceptibly angry? They think telling people that they are angry, and using insults and curse words, really is going to make us think "wow they are serious we need to do what they say". That is not how influence works.

Why aren't you angry about the damage, injuries, and deaths caused by drivers? Multiple people I grew up or went to school with were killed in car crashes. Three trees in my yard have been hit by cars. I have to drive to my neighbor's house because it's too dangerous to walk. I won't let my kid bike to school. Several kids at my kid's school have been hit by cars. I worry about my dad every time he walks to the synagogue, because drivers routinely run the red light where he crosses the road. A car crashed into the bubble tea place near my parents, with people inside the store. Yeah, I'm angry.

But you aren’t going to get rid of cars anytime soon. So why aren’t you pressuring dc to enforce traffic laws? I don’t think a bus lane will stop people running red lights. Or crashing into bubble tea stores. Drivers who do that ignore that the lane is bus only anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

+1

Why is the anti-car crowd always so perceptibly angry? They think telling people that they are angry, and using insults and curse words, really is going to make us think "wow they are serious we need to do what they say". That is not how influence works.

Why aren't you angry about the damage, injuries, and deaths caused by drivers? Multiple people I grew up or went to school with were killed in car crashes. Three trees in my yard have been hit by cars. I have to drive to my neighbor's house because it's too dangerous to walk. I won't let my kid bike to school. Several kids at my kid's school have been hit by cars. I worry about my dad every time he walks to the synagogue, because drivers routinely run the red light where he crosses the road. A car crashed into the bubble tea place near my parents, with people inside the store. Yeah, I'm angry.

But you aren’t going to get rid of cars anytime soon. So why aren’t you pressuring dc to enforce traffic laws? I don’t think a bus lane will stop people running red lights. Or crashing into bubble tea stores. Drivers who do that ignore that the lane is bus only anyway.

dp. just STOP. the people supporting bus lanes are the people supporting traffic cameras are the people supporting enforcement.

you on the other hand just pick one thing you believe is a “gotcha” and claim that it negates any and all efforts to improve DC streets and transit.

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

So your assertion is that drivers are so bad that pedestrians are at risk even if they are just walking on a sidewalk? That seems more of an indictment of the people operating their cars. Maybe they should be taking a bus or metro instead?

PP's assertion seems to be that it's ok to kill kids on Georgia Avenue, but it's not ok to kill kids on streets off Georgia Avenue, except actually it was ok to kill one kid on a street next to Georgia Avenue WHICH TOTALLY 200% WAS NOT ON GEORGIA AVENUE, because the police said he ran into the street.

It makes you wonder about whose deaths are an acceptable cost of driver convenience, and whose aren't.

This is a reminder to parents everywhere to hold your 4 year old’s hand when crossing streets, to wait for the light, then cross in the marked crosswalk.

Not every tragedy is preventable but some indeed are

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

The car didnt turn off Georgia. The way people who want this stupid bus lane lie about the circumstances under which this child died is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I’m sure you’re very in favor of speed bumps on Kennedy too?

And that’s the rub. These clowns shamelessly attempt to cloak their furious levels of self-entitlement behind pathetic appeals to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that haven’t violently assailed. They pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell they think they are kidding, but I welcome them to put forth such claims in public fora so that they can be unmasked for the dirtbags that they are.

Ha. You lost. Now you found your way over to Georgia I see.

I’m on a designated residential side street off Connecticut and I am delighted you lost. Because logical consequences

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You can tell supporters of this proposal don't care about safety, and that it's really just all about hating cars, because this plan is guaranteed to get children killed and they don't care.

To be clear, if drivers get fed up with not being catered to as much and cut through residential streets at high speeds and kill children, it is the drivers, not the proposal, that will be killing the kids. Arguing that DDOT should take into account and CATER TO murderous drivers is not a serious argument.

What if everyone is driving 18 mph on said side street but the vehicle count goes from 27 a day to 270 a day. All traveling at 18 mph

Doncha think that maaaybe this might increase the odds that a vehicle operated lawfully might come into contact with a 2 yr old who darts into the road from between parked cars? Or a kid who overshoots the curb on his bike and couldn’t be visualized by oncoming traffic going 18mph due to the Amazon truck parked illegally blocking the view ? Hm? You know anything about odds making?

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

It would be hard to design a proposal more likely to get children killed.

You shamelessly attempt to cloak your furious level of self-entitlement behind a pathetic appeal to child safety, but have never known a traffic calming measure that you haven’t violently assailed. You and/or your ilk pulled the same sh*t about side street traffic with Concept C and it was disgusting. I don’t know who the hell you think you are kidding, but I welcome you to put forth your claims in a public fora so that you can be unmasked for the dirtbag that you are.

The only one showing a furious level of self-entitlement is you.

Frankly, it's become a bit awkward to see.

+1

Why is the anti-car crowd always so perceptibly angry? They think telling people that they are angry, and using insults and curse words, really is going to make us think "wow they are serious we need to do what they say". That is not how influence works.

I think it's just one person who posts over and over and over. He or she always says the same things over and over and always with a lot of shrill, highly repetitive anti-car rhetoric. He/she seems to feel compelled to respond to every post. I think he or she might be mentally ill.

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Anonymous wrote:Love it; bring it to more of the major streets. Thanks DDOT!

Seems like this makes the streets more dangerous, not less.

Drivers aren't going to sit in traffic, and they're not going to switch to the bus. This will just shift traffic onto all the smaller streets around Georgia Avenue. How is that better?

Seems like it's better to focus traffic on big roads where everyone expects there to be lots of cars. I would be pissed if I lived in a neighborhood near Georgia.

This is the main question here that no one can seem to answer.

They don't want to answer it. The data and research is very clear that increasing congestion on heavily congested roads decreases safety. This isn't about safety. It has never been.

The data and research that you made up in your head.

In the actual world, the data and research are very clear that slower speeds make a street safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you the AI bot, or the 19 yr old city planning intern with nothing else to do all afternoon? These insipid IKnowYouAreButWhatAmI responses are boresome. You're flat wrong.

Anyway, the actual data show that squeezing traffic to a standstill on a designated arterial will induce diversion to side roads. That situation is not, in fact, safer for anyone. High volume traffic on designated local streets is more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, pets, and 3 yr old scooter riders who misjudge the curb.

Your term paper thesis is going to kill a 3 yr old someday soon in the District. Is that okay with you?

[Mic drop]

Is it ok with you that an actual four year old was actually killed by a driver on Georgia Avenue?

Are you even from here? There's virtually no children on Georgia Avenue because their parents are like, "stay the F away from Georgia Avenue because there's too many cars." There's tens of thousands of children in the neighborhoods abutting Georgia Avenue that will be put in serious danger by this plan.

To repeat, AN ACTUAL FOUR YEAR OLD WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A DRIVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE. But that doesn't matter to you, because ... well, why?

Wow. Your caps make your dumb arguments so much more convincing! Again, go to Georgia Avenue and count how many children you see. You will only need one hand. Then go to look up how many kids live in nearby neighborhoods, walking to school and playing with friends, who will suddenly be put in immediate danger as tens of thousands of drivers go racing through their neighborhoods to avoid Georgia Avenue. This isn't hard. Well, maybe for you it is...

Yeah, you haven't answered the question. Why are potential kids, who might potentially be killed, more important to you than this actual child who was actually killed on Georgia Avenue? Wasn't his safety important too?

Because the kids on GA ave who are walking on it are black and brown and the ones off on the side streets have a lower chance of being black and brown, duh.

What kids? There are no children of any color on Georgia Avenue because Georgia Avenue would be incredibly boring to children. You think kids like hanging out at run down car washes?

There's a sign at Georgia and Kennedy street's intersection for the 2021 death of a 4 year old boy by SUV. You've been told this multiple times. Idiot.

He was on Kennedy not Georgia. We will correct you every time you attempt to slip this by and make up a bullshit narrative to support your case

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. I don't know what point you and the mouse in your pocket are trying to make, anyway.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

He was not "at Georgia." He was jaywalking across Kennedy St., outside of a crosswalk. He jaywalked into the path of a lawfully operated vehicle that was not speeding and that had the right of way

The point? is that this sad case does not offer one iota of evidence that there should be a bus lane on Georgia to choke north-south traffic.

The POINT is that you keep lying and saying this kid was on Georgia.

If anything, this sad case supports your opponents and you're too dim to realize this. It offers evidence that traffic that will be diverted from Georgia onto north-south residential side streets poses a serious risk to little kids who do little kid things like run out into the street where they live without looking.

Your senior thesis idea will cause cars to run over kids. Bad idea.

"The operator then crossed over Georgia Avenue, Northwest, into onto the 900 block of Kennedy Street, Northwest. As the operator entered the block, a juvenile male was crossing the street, outside of a marked crosswalk. The operator struck the victim then immediately came to a stop and remained on scene."
https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/traffic-fatality-intersection-georgia-avenue-and-kennedy-street-northwest

I don't know what point you're trying to make, other than blaming a four-year-old child for getting killed in a car crash.

The point is that you're lying to everyone about what happened to this child because you think it will further the unrelated cause of created a bus-only lane.

He was on Kennedy at Georgia. The police news release says so. Are they lying too?

The police news report pretty clearly says that the child was on Kennedy, AND that the car was traveling on Kennedy. Neither of them was on Georgia. The car passed across Georgia and then struck the child on Kennedy. Again, on Kennedy. That cross street could have been any street and it wouldn't have mattered, because it was not involved in the crash.

?? the reason the car was going so fast was that it turned at a high rate of speed off Georgia. slow down Georgia and turns will be safer. Only someone with zero understanding of traffic safety could have posted that.

Untrue! The car crossed georgia ave from one side to the other, the entire time on Kennedy St.

Legally and with a green light.

Kennedy is perpendicular to Georgia. The driver was NEVER ON GEORGIA.

The deceased child however was jaywalking with his mother across Kennedy outside of the crosswalk.

Once again for the slow in the back … this story doesn’t support your argument. You’ve been informed 17 times so at this point you are lying

The reports suggest the car ran a red light. I’m not convinced this was fully investigated.

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 has the highest concentration of children under the age of 10 in the city. Some of them will inevitably be killed as a direct result of this DDOT proposal. We all know it will send tens of thousands of cars through side streets of Ward 4 to avoid the gridlock on Georgia that this plan will create.

There's basically no children on Georgia Avenue (Georgia Avenue is mostly liquor stores and other businesses), but go a few blocks east or west and there's a million of them. A lot of young children.