She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Doofus that gets her no improved chances on the electoral map. Done to satisfy the fringe who probably won’t vote anyway.


Right?! Why didn’t she pick Shapiro and try to make a battle for PA? Did Shapiro not want it? Did the opposition research find stuff on him or Kelly? This is “meh” for me but maybe he’ll surprise us?


If she’s going to get PA, it will be on her own, she doesn’t need the state’s gov to carry the state. I like Shapiro a lot but his previous statements are a distraction in this current political environment. People have short memories though and who knows what the landscape will look like in ~10 years, when he’ll be 61 - a very normal age to run for pres. Plus I think he needs to stay as Gov longer - he’s only in his first term.


Given everything going on Israel right now, the dual loyalty thing could've totally splintered the Democrats and it will always haunt Shapiro given the IDF story. I say this as a Jew who knows the antisemitic tropes too well.


Not to mention creating a constitutional crisis if he ever had to serve in her stead as Commander in Chief.


Gross antisemitism on display. Same comment would not be said about other groups.

+1 This is the dual loyalty trope. It's antisemitism 101. Now that you know, please do better in the future.


But there is dual loyalty. Some Jewish people I know say they care more about Israel than the US. Not saying that is Shapiro but it is not uncommon. No way he can even pretend to be unbiased in Middle East politics


So why are you saying there is dual loyalty? I'd check myself if I were you.


Jew here. Jews have been the target of this since before Israel existed. Not always considered a citizen by the country they were born into and live in. The divided loyalty thing is definitely a long-running anti-semitic trope and Shapiro having volunteered in Israel and worse, on a military base plays right into it. All it takes is for someone to say, "You volunteered for the IDF and not your own military, why?" It's devastating because even if it's misleading, it paints him with suspicion rightly or wrongly and it will follow him for his career.


What do you think his answer would be? (Maybe he has, but I haven’t followed him at all.)


PP here. I don't think there is a good one. Maybe chalk it up to youthful idealism and emphasize the other volunteering work he did. But it won't go unnoticed that he didn't use that youthful idealism to serve his own country in any military capacity. That's also a classic anti-semitic trope (e.g., effete, urban intellectual). Kelly and Walz both served. That matters to more than a few folks.


For gd's sake, he didn't "serve" any country - he did summer camp IDF service. This was a very normal thing for Jewish kids to do in the 90s!

But who cares anymore because we got MY MAN WALZ!


Oh I get it. I didn't do my "birthright" trip even though I was given the opportunity. It doesn't matter what capacity he did this. If he then served in the U.S. military, then it would've probably gone a long way to mitigate this. But he didn't. The moment he has to start explaining or rationalizing what he did, he's already lost the plot. And there will be plenty of folks that will paint him as a "tool of Israel" or some other trope.


The whole ‘birthright’ trip experience is suspect and clear brainwashing in support of Israel. Start them young
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Anonymous wrote:Walz went to West Point.


False.

In 1989, he earned a Bachelor of Science in social science education from Chadron State College. In 1995, he was arrested for a driving under the influence charge, and has been a teetotaler ever since. In 2001, Walz earned a Master of Science in educational leadership from Minnesota State University, Mankato.
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Pay attention Patriots.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a terrible choice. Republicans will brand him as an extreme leftist that is practically communist who wants to destroy the suburbs and tax everyone to death. Many swing state voters see MN as a very left leaning state politically and this will reinforce the idea that Harris is too far left for America.



They brand everyone an extreme leftist.


Not true. Kelly is not extreme left/liberal...he is moderate.


Because Harris didn't pick him. If he was the VP choice, I'm sure he would be branded with the same brush


Well I can only speak for myself.
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Now what?

I'd say that's game, set, match.

https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=sl2cxpqvhFoHww


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Anonymous wrote:He gave driver’s licenses and free college to illegal immigrants.


Half right, good job, maga! Yes, we want our drivers to be licensed for safety. They do not get “free college” though; they’re eligible for in state tuition and financial aid.

Walz wants a safe and educated populace, what a menace!
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They brand everyone an extreme leftist.

+1 Lots of tightly puckered “moderates” on this site today.

I’m a Minnesotan and I’m super jazzed about Walz as the pick.



Done of you thrive on drama. And making stuff up.

.As a moderate

I think he's a good pick

Kelly was my favorite, but Walz is good too, most importantly he doesn't hurt the ticket
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Anonymous wrote:Is he the guy that let Minneapolis burn during the BLM riots?


No, he is the guy who called in the National Guard to end the burning and riots sparked by literally a Boogaloo Bois and a racist right winger.


I watched the place burn live, I saw the National guard sit back and do nothing. I watched them loot and burn businesses and churches. I saw a young man protecting himself from thugs. You can’t change the narrative when people watched it live. Nice try though.



Now do the Capitol.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine…really…

But I am both worried and sad that we live in an America that makes having a Jewish running mate a political liability. SMDH


Blame Netanyahu for that. He has single-handedly made people see Jews in a different light
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Anonymous wrote:Pay attention Patriots.


We are!

Harris/Walz '24!
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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine…really…

But I am both worried and sad that we live in an America that makes having a Jewish running mate a political liability. SMDH


That wasn’t the case with Bernie. Politics is timing. For better or worse.


Bernie is actually pretty reasonable on Israel. Doesn’t display blind loyalty to it.
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But I am both worried and sad that we live in an America that makes having a Jewish running mate a political liability. SMDH


Blame Netanyahu for that. He has single-handedly made people see Jews in a different light


Yup. American Jew here.
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Or serving as an NCO in charge of a bunch of teenaged GIs and keeping them in line and on the mission.

I cannot picture Trump being capable of that.
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The finalists need to get on their social media to promote this ticket. Not one has posted yet. They should have had something ready to go.
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