Dad leaves toddler to die in hot car while he plays games on Play Station

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Maybe he enjoyed winding his wife up and showing her he would do as he pleased?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Maybe he enjoyed winding his wife up and showing her he would do as he pleased?

Maybe he is a serial killer who leads a double life!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Maybe he enjoyed winding his wife up and showing her he would do as he pleased?

Maybe he is a serial killer who leads a double life!!

First is far more likely.

He also tried trashing his wife to LE, claiming she left the kids in the car all the time too. That is countered by her texts and kid interviews and is not even a defense for him. Seems hostile and gratuitous. Also, would deprive remaining kids of any parent. Another example of their welfare coming second to his whims or not even being considered at all.

Treated 1st wife poorly and was a deadbeat dad to that kid. Now he treated this wife poorly and killed a kid. What a prize this guy is. He probably was a SAH to not earn so past child support could not be garnished.

I'd bet money that the recent, sealed criminal case is DV against wife 2 or wife 1 or a sidepiece that threatened his cushy deal. Was he gaming alone or did he have online "friends?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

In JULY!
In ARIZONA!

DURING A RECORD HEAT WAVE FOR JULY IN ARIZONA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That so many on a parenting board are reacting to defend the parents of a 2 year old who died a horrible, prolonged death due to negligence is a bit startling.

If you are addicted to Play Station, get it out of the house or hire a sitter.

All this, nothing the mom could have done, is BS. Since she knew her admonishments had not stopped him leaving the kids in the car alone repeatedly, it was time to take action. Failure to protect is failing a LEGAL duty as well as a moral one.

Mom could even have set up a camera, or accessed one that was already there, to head count the kids quickly and periodically when not in the OR. People view their pets when not home, this was 3 kids she knew he was risking the lives of. She did NOTHING.

And then she became the biggest defender of her child's murderer. Think how the other kids likely feel? They probably feel more responsible than the adults. Sick family, sick culture. Thank goodness AZ are not as "conflicted" as DCUM posters.

Not sure what is going on with the mom, she might be in shock. I would kill my husband with my own hands if he killed my baby.

As for the father, I agree he is a psycho. He could have took the child into the house, locked her in a bedroom and let her scream for 3 hours while playing his game. She would be alive.

[Anonymous]

I’ll bet the ex wife is glad she got out, but I imagine also feeling bad for current wife. She must be so relieved to be rid of him.

[Anonymous]

I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

Wait, what? The guy was definitely playing PlayStation while his child died right outside in the car.

I don't think we know if the guy was drinking or on drugs. It sounds plausible because it would at least explain how he could be SO stupid, and they did seize a coffee cup from the scene probably to rest the contents, but I don't believe anyone has alleged alcohol.

Really unclear how mentioning the PlayStation is misandry-- this guy was playing one when this happened. It's just a fact. My husband doesn't even own a PlayStation. What does that have to do with misandry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

Wait, what? The guy was definitely playing PlayStation while his child died right outside in the car.

I don't think we know if the guy was drinking or on drugs. It sounds plausible because it would at least explain how he could be SO stupid, and they did seize a coffee cup from the scene probably to rest the contents, but I don't believe anyone has alleged alcohol.

Really unclear how mentioning the PlayStation is misandry-- this guy was playing one when this happened. It's just a fact. My husband doesn't even own a PlayStation. What does that have to do with misandry?

Per the affidavit, LE took gaming equipment - PS5, VR headset, etc. and a 1/2 full glass from the coffee table. It has not been announced what tests found re: the glass. Not a coffee cup, time will tell what he was drinking.

I think the mom's talking at length (bond hearing on YT) to get him freed would make me leery of her as a parent too. She knew he was doing this re: all 3 kids. A child had recently died due to heat on a boat right in AZ and there was intense media coverage. They could not be ignorant as to the risks he was taking.

"Sorry Babe!" doesn't sound consumed by remorse to me and her anger on behalf of her daughter was super short lived. Both suck and both are too caught up in dysfunction to exercise good judgement or prioritize welfare of kids. I would not want her as my anesthesiologist either. Had she left him in jail I would have more sympathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

Family members if this cretin have arrived, perhaps? Because what he did is indefensible, by any standards.

[Anonymous]

Criticizing a man who admits he knowingly left his 2 year old in a car in triple degree heat, where she died an agonizing death over 3 hours, is misandry?

I wish this board had a block feature. Trolling on this horrific tragedy is SICK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Criticizing a man who admits he knowingly left his 2 year old in a car in triple degree heat, where she died an agonizing death over 3 hours, is misandry?

I wish this board had a block feature. Trolling on this horrific tragedy is SICK.

FP. The criticism was aimed at every man who plays video games, not just to this particular man. That is misandry. (Women play video games, too, which is apparently unknown to some posters.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Maybe he enjoyed winding his wife up and showing her he would do as he pleased?

Maybe he is a serial killer who leads a double life!!

First is far more likely.

He also tried trashing his wife to LE, claiming she left the kids in the car all the time too. That is countered by her texts and kid interviews and is not even a defense for him. Seems hostile and gratuitous. Also, would deprive remaining kids of any parent. Another example of their welfare coming second to his whims or not even being considered at all.

Treated 1st wife poorly and was a deadbeat dad to that kid. Now he treated this wife poorly and killed a kid. What a prize this guy is. He probably was a SAH to not earn so past child support could not be garnished.

I'd bet money that the recent, sealed criminal case is DV against wife 2 or wife 1 or a sidepiece that threatened his cushy deal. Was he gaming alone or did he have online "friends?"

Why in the world do they let adult criminal cases be sealed? I thought that was a juvie thing.