UMD EA Results

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Anonymous wrote:And, finally, I think it's quite telling that you're all football fans who don't let your sons actually play the game.

NP...this is a thread about UMD EA. What does this even mean? Skimmed and see no mention of FB. No idea who's a fan and whether or not their kid participates. Perhaps it's a metaphor?

Perhaps you missed it. Apparently UMD is in the "Top Ten" for some football league or whatever. It's the best "academic" one, another poster added excitedly.

No, I don't know what that means either.

I continue to think it's a lovely school... with serious issues. Like putting its freshmen in night school. Like not accepting some of Maryland's top students. Like having its fanbase include a lot of people who don't see why their kids should ever leave Maryland, even for five seconds. The crime and the traffic don't bother me nearly as much--any big school has stuff like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to another Big 10 University known for its beautiful campus in a great college town. I work near GWU and have also been on the campus of UMD and so prefer my undergrad college town. I just think “ meh” when I look at College Park an GWU campuses. So many nice, beautiful places other than College Park to go to school. It’s easy to get sucked up into this hype about UMD. Unfortunately, Maryland doesn’t have as good of a university system as Virginia.

But UMD is more diverse and some of us (even me, a Wasian, and my white husband) value that over schools full of white rich kids. Everyone has their thing. I'll take "meh" campus and diversity over lush grounds and little diversity.

What a mess

Right? The diversity of two majors, the same kids from high school, and.make it harder to get into than Yale. AND for night classes! What kid doesn't want to go to class at 8PM on a Friday just so their parents can feel better there aren't rich white kids there? (Note: there are.)

UMD is a fine school. There are also other fine schools that aren't so oversubscribed they're making their freshmen matriculate in the spring, or offering conditional admits to kids with exceptional scores. Many of those schools are also just as "diverse," perhaps even in areas other than skin tone, which seems to be your only marker.

+100. Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Went to another Big 10 University known for its beautiful campus in a great college town. I work near GWU and have also been on the campus of UMD and so prefer my undergrad college town. I just think “ meh” when I look at College Park an GWU campuses. So many nice, beautiful places other than College Park to go to school. It’s easy to get sucked up into this hype about UMD. Unfortunately, Maryland doesn’t have as good of a university system as Virginia.

How is it the same kids from HS if it’s harder to get into than Yale?

Y’all just throwing biscuits now.



But UMD is more diverse and some of us (even me, a Wasian, and my white husband) value that over schools full of white rich kids. Everyone has their thing. I'll take "meh" campus and diversity over lush grounds and little diversity.

What a mess

Right? The diversity of two majors, the same kids from high school, and.make it harder to get into than Yale. AND for night classes! What kid doesn't want to go to class at 8PM on a Friday just so their parents can feel better there aren't rich white kids there? (Note: there are.)

UMD is a fine school. There are also other fine schools that aren't so oversubscribed they're making their freshmen matriculate in the spring, or offering conditional admits to kids with exceptional scores. Many of those schools are also just as "diverse," perhaps even in areas other than skin tone, which seems to be your only marker.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to another Big 10 University known for its beautiful campus in a great college town. I work near GWU and have also been on the campus of UMD and so prefer my undergrad college town. I just think “ meh” when I look at College Park an GWU campuses. So many nice, beautiful places other than College Park to go to school. It’s easy to get sucked up into this hype about UMD. Unfortunately, Maryland doesn’t have as good of a university system as Virginia.

But UMD is more diverse and some of us (even me, a Wasian, and my white husband) value that over schools full of white rich kids. Everyone has their thing. I'll take "meh" campus and diversity over lush grounds and little diversity.

What a mess

Right? The diversity of two majors, the same kids from high school, and.make it harder to get into than Yale. AND for night classes! What kid doesn't want to go to class at 8PM on a Friday just so their parents can feel better there aren't rich white kids there? (Note: there are.)

UMD is a fine school. There are also other fine schools that aren't so oversubscribed they're making their freshmen matriculate in the spring, or offering conditional admits to kids with exceptional scores. Many of those schools are also just as "diverse," perhaps even in areas other than skin tone, which seems to be your only marker.

How are both these things simultaneously possibly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, finally, I think it's quite telling that you're all football fans who don't let your sons actually play the game.

NP...this is a thread about UMD EA. What does this even mean? Skimmed and see no mention of FB. No idea who's a fan and whether or not their kid participates. Perhaps it's a metaphor?

Perhaps you missed it. Apparently UMD is in the "Top Ten" for some football league or whatever. It's the best "academic" one, another poster added excitedly.

No, I don't know what that means either.

I continue to think it's a lovely school... with serious issues. Like putting its freshmen in night school. Like not accepting some of Maryland's top students. Like having its fanbase include a lot of people who don't see why their kids should ever leave Maryland, even for five seconds. The crime and the traffic don't bother me nearly as much--any big school has stuff like that.

Someone tried to explain this to you upthread. I say this kindly - you should really understand this, even if you don’t care about sports, just so you don’t sound ignorant in person.

Schools are divided into athletic conferences. The name of the athletic conference UMD belongs to is called the Big 10. That has nothing to do with being the top or best of anything. Even if all of the Big 10 schools are terrible at sports in a given year, the name and membership don’t change. Some are named by the number of members they had when they were created, and some are named geographically. Other athletic conferences are the Big 12, Pac 10, Southeastern, etc.

[Anonymous]

DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Bye bye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Bye bye.

This may be one of the craziest posts I have read on this site. Seriously, bye bye. You are just bitter that your DC did not receive a full Fall admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Why not go to that school’s thread and celebrate your student’s achievement? Congratulations!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Why not go to that school’s thread and celebrate your student’s achievement? Congratulations!

My kid enrolled at UMD last fall from NOVA. He was waitlisted at UVA. It's just a big swapping of high stat kids for state flagships.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Good for you and him! Seriously. We’re in a similar boat. It’s frustrating to be judged against the kids in your county or school as part of a game the college is playing, instead of against an overall applicant pool. How odd that my kid looks much more appealing to other states than to ours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

If UMD is otherwise your DC’s first choice you should accept and take Freshman Connect. It’s a minor inconvenience in terms of class hours for one semester.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Good for you and him! Seriously. We’re in a similar boat. It’s frustrating to be judged against the kids in your county or school as part of a game the college is playing, instead of against an overall applicant pool. How odd that my kid looks much more appealing to other states than to ours.

It's not odd. It's just a numbers game. This happens all the time. I know it's disappointing, and sometimes a head scratcher, but UMDCP isn't going to accept every high achieving kid from the same school.

Kids get accepted to higher ranked schools, but rejected from lower ranked schools all the time, and not necessarily due to yield protection.

IMO, college admissions is basically a lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

Can you list a few most rigorous APs taken?

The Blair HS STEM magnet program classes are generally described as higher level than AP. In addition to all the magnet courses, DS took a couple of AP history classes (I believe Government and Modern World, not U.S. History as it was advised that students not take that as a freshman). He took honors English to balance things out in his schedule, which is what is recommended for magnet students - take AP History OR English - some, of course, took both. Believe it or not. I'm not answering anymore questions on this thread. Thanks for the kind words from some of the folks here. Best of luck to your students.

Sorry for the rejection but that explains it. There were many other UMD applicants from Blair who took much more rigorous AP courses & exams including AP Calc BC, AP physics C, AP English lit, AP US History, AP Chemistry, etc., while your student applied with just an SAT score and high weighted GPA that was built with less rigor honors courses.

Not PP but you don’t understand. This kid will have had all the rigorous magnet courses which go beyond AP and May have taken AP exams too (without taking the course, like any Blair magnet student - none of them take the course for AP calc, for example). uMD is very familiar with this program and considers it appropriately - as beyond AP. There is no AP quantum physics, for example. Or marine biology,

This is accurate- Magnet courses are typically much more rigorous and in-depth than an AP course.
However, I believe most magnet students take AP exams in Science and Math without taking the AP courses. So for instance the magnet student would sit for AP Calculus BC, AP Biology, AP Chemistry, Ap CS etc.
They would also take several AP humanities and Social science courses such as AP English, Government, World History etc.
UMD would expect to see these in an application in addition to the high SAT score and high GPA. It has been a couple of years since my child graduated but in his four years at Blair magnet I don’t remember hearing about more than a handful of students who did not get into UMD. I understand the poster whose child didn’t get in may not wish to share more information about their child on this forum but I would encourage them to talk to an academic counselor at Blair to see what might have gone awry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Good for you and for him. These people are nuts, sending their kids to a spring program because the school doesn't have room. The reason they're all being so horrible to you is because the only they way they can justify their own crazy choices. Look at it this way: your kid worked hard and gets to reap the reward somewhere that wants him. Their kids worked hard and get to go to night school, live doubled-up in a crowded dorm, and not even start college until next spring.

The only way they can make that make sense is to make it seem like it's a good idea. It's not. It's pathetic.