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FC can take classes starting at 3 PM. So you can take late afternoon classes like many students take anyway.

It's maybe 2-3 evening classes for one semester. Not a big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:FC can take classes starting at 3 PM. So you can take late afternoon classes like many students take anyway.

It's maybe 2-3 evening classes for one semester. Not a big deal.

So... Here's a question I have.

If the school doesn't have space for your kid in the fall, how will they magically have space in the spring and continue to have space after that? Attrition? How is this a sustainable model of education? How do you know they'll be able to get the classes they need? At some point, why wouldn't you just go to UMBC twenty minutes up the road? Probably have the same adjuncts teaching there.

[Anonymous]

They do have space for your kid in the fall. Spring admits are offered FC in the fall, including on campus housing.

UMBC is a different size, feel, and set of majors.

[Anonymous]

PP here. Forgot to add, FC has dedicated classes so they can knock out some core requirements. They are even smaller class sizes which some prefer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They do have space for your kid in the fall. Spring admits are offered FC in the fall, including on campus housing.

UMBC is a different size, feel, and set of majors.

Then why do they call it a spring admit when you're starting in the fall? Is it a conditional acceptance? What alchemy happens that makes them suddenly have room in the spring they didn't have before?

You all seem really invested in insisting this is totally normal, but I don't think it is and I'm not really clear on how it makes sense.

So you start in the fall, same dorms, you just have to take core classes they're calling "Freshman Connections." But you're not technically a freshman until spring, despite paying tuition like one and accruing college credits like one. I'm assuming maybe the difference is a more limited set of classes you're allowed to take? Is this due to space in the rest of the classes? Is this meant to stagger the class of 2028 out so they're not all taking the same overcrowded core classes at once?

Just make it make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:They do have space for your kid in the fall. Spring admits are offered FC in the fall, including on campus housing.

UMBC is a different size, feel, and set of majors.

Then why do they call it a spring admit when you're starting in the fall? Is it a conditional acceptance? What alchemy happens that makes them suddenly have room in the spring they didn't have before?

You all seem really invested in insisting this is totally normal, but I don't think it is and I'm not really clear on how it makes sense.

So you start in the fall, same dorms, you just have to take core classes they're calling "Freshman Connections." But you're not technically a freshman until spring, despite paying tuition like one and accruing college credits like one. I'm assuming maybe the difference is a more limited set of classes you're allowed to take? Is this due to space in the rest of the classes? Is this meant to stagger the class of 2028 out so they're not all taking the same overcrowded core classes at once?

Just make it make sense.

It's a spring admit. Optionally you can do fall as FC. If you do FC you are still a freshman, you just have a more limited selection of courses - still 100 or more - that will count to the degree.

Some people leave after Fall semester so that is why there is room for Spring admits. Some percentage of Spring admits opt for FC.

You may want to read the UMD FAQ for Spring admits and FC.

[Anonymous]

I was also wondering how the numbers make sense going forward. I was thinking they are just trying to fill up at off times (as a moneymaker) and since enough people are willing to do FC it works for the school.

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Anonymous wrote:They do have space for your kid in the fall. Spring admits are offered FC in the fall, including on campus housing.

UMBC is a different size, feel, and set of majors.

Then why do they call it a spring admit when you're starting in the fall? Is it a conditional acceptance? What alchemy happens that makes them suddenly have room in the spring they didn't have before?

You all seem really invested in insisting this is totally normal, but I don't think it is and I'm not really clear on how it makes sense.

So you start in the fall, same dorms, you just have to take core classes they're calling "Freshman Connections." But you're not technically a freshman until spring, despite paying tuition like one and accruing college credits like one. I'm assuming maybe the difference is a more limited set of classes you're allowed to take? Is this due to space in the rest of the classes? Is this meant to stagger the class of 2028 out so they're not all taking the same overcrowded core classes at once?

Just make it make sense.

Did you look at admissions site? I found this. "Understanding your admissions decision " https://admissions.umd.edu/persona/freshman-admission-decision-faqs

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Good for you and for him. These people are nuts, sending their kids to a spring program because the school doesn't have room. The reason they're all being so horrible to you is because the only they way they can justify their own crazy choices. Look at it this way: your kid worked hard and gets to reap the reward somewhere that wants him. Their kids worked hard and get to go to night school, live doubled-up in a crowded dorm, and not even start college until next spring.

The only way they can make that make sense is to make it seem like it's a good idea. It's not. It's pathetic.

This is not true. Freshman Connection is a great option for someone who wants to go to UMD and does not want to pay OOS tuition to other states. Many FC kids end up with great degrees and jobs. And their diploma is not marked or tainted because they entered under the FC program. It is just a silly way for UMD to look prestigious in the US news rankings. UC, Wash U and other schools do other silly things to help their rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has moved on from UMD. Offered spring admit even though his AP scores would exempt him from several of the weed out classes for the LLP that declined him while an equally respected OOS university with the same job placement rate offered him honors, direct admit to his chosen major, and a scholarship that brings the cost to less than 10k/year over UMD in state. Maryland’s loss as he will probably enter the workforce there and stay in that area. And pay his income taxes there.

Good for you and for him. These people are nuts, sending their kids to a spring program because the school doesn't have room. The reason they're all being so horrible to you is because the only they way they can justify their own crazy choices. Look at it this way: your kid worked hard and gets to reap the reward somewhere that wants him. Their kids worked hard and get to go to night school, live doubled-up in a crowded dorm, and not even start college until next spring.

The only way they can make that make sense is to make it seem like it's a good idea. It's not. It's pathetic.

This is not true. Freshman Connection is a great option for someone who wants to go to UMD and does not want to pay OOS tuition to other states. Many FC kids end up with great degrees and jobs. And their diploma is not marked or tainted because they entered under the FC program. It is just a silly way for UMD to look prestigious in the US news rankings. UC, Wash U and other schools do other silly things to help their rankings.

Who's teaching the FC classes? Same professors, double load? TAs? Are they counting on attrition to winnow those numbers down?

You can get instate tuition at UMBC. Why would you think this is a "better" deal? It's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: You can get instate tuition at UMBC. Why would you think this is a "better" deal? It's ridiculous.

UMBC is a very different size and feel from UMCP. Some will prefer FC at UMCP over UMBC.

FC seems a bit silly but not that much of a negative in the grand scheme of things if someone prefers College Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They do have space for your kid in the fall. Spring admits are offered FC in the fall, including on campus housing.

UMBC is a different size, feel, and set of majors.

What is the difference then who are admitted to fall 2024?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: What is the difference then who are admitted to fall 2024?

Spring admits who elect FC in the fall have restrictions on course selections and times. Still over 100 courses to pick from, they all count towards the degree. Courses start at 3 PM M-Th and all day Friday. Classes are designated for FC and are often smaller. These restrictions are for only the first semester.

Direct Fall admits do not have the above restrictions.

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Anonymous wrote:DD got in CS honors, but not sure any merit

Congratulations! Think merit comes out later

Good to know. We are OOS hoping getting some merit to bring cost down.

Maryland doesn’t give merit to oos applicants.

not true - it maybe easier to get merit as OOS from what i see.. the amount is not going to be much but seems easier

They don’t give much OOS. Google Common Data Set and scroll down to the H2 section. UVA also gives a pittance to OOS applicants, except for very few scholarships.

[Anonymous]

Doesn’t Northeastern do something similar by having some freshmen start in London first semester?