It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:My kid with 4.48 gpa and 1580 got rejected from UVA in EA.

Why didn't he apply ED?

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Maybe some of these kids want to try for MIT or CMU as a dream, but hope they can go to UVA in the likely scenario that they don't get into MIT/CMU.

Ok? You have one ED shot (sometimes two if EDII), just like the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

Right?! That poster and her unhinged rants are so recognizable.

It's because I say the admissions system is broken in every post. And it is.

You say that in every post and you constantly talk about your son who was rejected from VT but went to CC and will be transferring there. Congratulations, great outcome, now please quit your whining.

I'm definitely not whining, I am letting people know how miserable the admissions office is and how kids can get into top tier state schools that they.may want to go to.

Oh, please. "The system is broken! The system is broken!" Whiner extraordinaire.

Seriously, the system is broken.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

Right?! That poster and her unhinged rants are so recognizable.

It's because I say the admissions system is broken in every post. And it is.

You say that in every post and you constantly talk about your son who was rejected from VT but went to CC and will be transferring there. Congratulations, great outcome, now please quit your whining.

I'm definitely not whining, I am letting people know how miserable the admissions office is and how kids can get into top tier state schools that they.may want to go to.

Oh, please. "The system is broken! The system is broken!" Whiner extraordinaire.

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Seriously, the system is broken.

Np. It is broken. That’s why we went with British schools

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Anonymous wrote:My kid with 4.48 gpa and 1580 got rejected from UVA in EA.

Why didn't he apply ED?

+1

Maybe some of these kids want to try for MIT or CMU as a dream, but hope they can go to UVA in the likely scenario that they don't get into MIT/CMU.

Ok? You have one ED shot (sometimes two if EDII), just like the rest of us.

Would ED have made a difference at UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Amazing how in the space of a few days your kid went from “he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer” to “ He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va”. Did you just find out?

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Anonymous wrote:Context: To get a 4.6 at that school, kid likely had to take 16 AP courses and get a full "A" in every one of them through first semester of senior year. (And probably use some GPA-related tricks that Tiger parents daydream about from the time their kids are in diapers.) Only a handful of students in the entire school system can compete with that, and few would even be interested in trying. Anyway, I assume a troll started this thread.

My kid was like this and did not get into UVa or VT. Also sports and lots of extracurriculars The system is broken. People don't want to hear it, but it's true.

And my four white, UMC kids had those kinds of stats and ECs applied to UVA and three were admitted and of the three who applied to VT, two were admitted. The system is not broken; it is just crazy competitive and thus unpredictable.

Lolololol no
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Same results for my white, UMC kids. Lots and lots of sour grapes on this forum.

What would the results have been for black kids?

The trick to UVA is applying ED, and having a sob story essay involving "diversity" (no injury topics). You are welcome.

Sad, but true.

It’s true of all schools. Every student has to have a sob story or a story about how they overcame an obstacle in life. It’s all very weird. We sent DS to a British school which is a meritocracy so we don’t have to deal with a broken system

+1 I absolutely HATE this. It's like kids are making sh*t up to appear as a victim who has overcome. It's pathetic.

You just can't be 'normal'. When did 'normal' become toxic and a liability? And, I'm waiting for the rant to this post about what is 'normal' blah, blah, blah, yada yada....in this context--I mean your average kid with just regular life issues that don't have to be made into a mini-novella. Everyone by the time they are applying to college has likely faced meanness, exclusion, toxicity, rejection (sports, elections), injury, death of a grandparent, etc. Just 'normal' things based on their age. But--they have to make these things so 'life-definining' and beating all odds kind of crap.

IT's strange and weird. You hear of kids lying about their gender identification or race or some sob story just to have an angle.

DP. I see your point and share your disgust, but we chose the opposite tack. UMC white girl, excellent grades, excellent ECs, jobs, interesting essay - and no sob stories to speak of. She didn’t make anything up, she simply presented herself as she is - and is now at her top choice, VT. Adcoms can see right through the made up nonsense. Just tell your kids to be themselves.

What was her essay about if not a sob story?

why the snark? This is the great debate in college admissions today - my DS went to Oxford where at least in his area of study meritocracy still reigns supreme. Read any issue of College Confidential. Our system has thrown PC and wokeism o the extreme. A lot off smar parents are going Canadian, British or German. google it

LOL no

LLol NO. WHAT?? be intelligent

The way you know the “major” admits on merit is that it admitted her kid. It’s simple. Anyone who rejected her kid? Broke and woke.

THIS x 100.

Uh, no, they didn’t say “broke and woke” where are you pulling that from? You are projecting and making the judgments you want to make. That’s actually called “prejudiced”

This is what she wrote: “ Our system has thrown PC and wokeism o the extreme.” I don’t think it’s an inaccurate summary to say broke and woke. Or broken and woke for better grammar.

But go ahead and co-opt the word “prejudiced” as well so it loses all meaning.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer. [/quote]

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??[/quote]

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid. [/quote]

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you? [/quote]

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid. [/quote]

Amazing how in the space of a few days your kid went from “he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer” to “ He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va”. Did you just find out?[/quote]

No, he went from not getting in last year to being accepted last week to VT. Transfers were accepted last week.

I will still tell him he is stupid and you don't think he should go to Tech.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

Right?! That poster and her unhinged rants are so recognizable.

It's because I say the admissions system is broken in every post. And it is.

You say that in every post and you constantly talk about your son who was rejected from VT but went to CC and will be transferring there. Congratulations, great outcome, now please quit your whining.

I'm definitely not whining, I am letting people know how miserable the admissions office is and how kids can get into top tier state schools that they.may want to go to.

Oh, please. "The system is broken! The system is broken!" Whiner extraordinaire.

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Seriously, the system is broken.

Np. It is broken. That’s why we went with British schools

Same. Broken. Kid opted out. Going across the Atlantic for college. “F this performative dance” kid said to me. “I’m out”. Now younger sibling applying in few years wants to do the same. The system is broken and the education over there in UK will be far more rigorous than going to some SLAC would have been - which could have looked like 13th grade for smart kids.

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Same, my 4.6 GPA son got rejected from UVA and WL at VT last year. White male persona non grata.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

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I was scared reading this, but the admits from my kids private are starting to roll out and there are a ton of top 1-20 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid with 4.48 gpa and 1580 got rejected from UVA in EA.

Why didn't he apply ED?

+1

Maybe some of these kids want to try for MIT or CMU as a dream, but hope they can go to UVA in the likely scenario that they don't get into MIT/CMU.

And this is the problem with the ED era.

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Anonymous wrote:Same, my 4.6 GPA son got rejected from UVA and WL at VT last year. White male persona non grata.

Looking at the McLean insta, plenty of white kids getting into UVA. Clearly something wrong with your kid. In addition to his parent, that is.

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Anonymous wrote:Same, my 4.6 GPA son got rejected from UVA and WL at VT last year. White male persona non grata.

Looking at the McLean insta, plenty of white kids getting into UVA. Clearly something wrong with your kid. In addition to his parent, that is.

UVA is 57% white and 13% Asian. I don’t know why but I thought it would have more Asians.