I don't think I can be friends with moms who drive huge SUVs

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

I drove an SUV a for a long time and I felt safe in it especially when it snows which is rare this year but in years past a few storms a year in DC. Plus traveling it is more comfortable and giving rides to kids friends need more space.

Have downsized now and can only fit 3 kids total in my fancy sedan. SUVs for a family are practical. Kids, suitcases, etc… also we drove more than we fly. How much gas are you using flying all over? Op don’t be so judgmental. You will isolate yourself.

So why not a mini-van? Why the giant SUV?

The OP is a troll. This is not serious. Just very obnoxious.

And the same troll who started the anti-car thread. They’ll deny it, because they’re terrible at masking their overly verbose word-vomit writing style and word and syntax choices, but they are. Some bored, lonely troll begging for attention on the internet. Sad.

If you are so convinced, ask Jeff if the threads were started by the same person (they weren't, I know because I'm the OP of the anti-SUV thread but not this one).

I'm sorry your vocabulary and reading comprehension is so poor, I'm sure that's frustrating for you. Perhaps you can wipe your tears on your Escalade.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

I’m sure they’re spending as much time thinking about you.

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Aldi? Please.
This troll would bave been more believable if it was Wegmans or Whole Foods.

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I can’t believe it took this long for someone to note the disconnect between the wealthy, conformist moms and ALDIs. But in the event the post is real, I’m not a perfect person, and neither are you OP. And guess what, I have lots of imperfect friends. Individuals sometimes make choices that conflict with others’ values. That same gas guzzler might be the first person to show up at your house with a meal if you were seriously sick. Reducing people to one choice is a an awfully simplistic and unsatisfying way to go through life. You’re going to rule out a whole lot of people who might enrich your life. That said, if it’s a dealbreaker, you don’t have to hang out with them. Just know that each of those people you’re dismissing could be the person who alerts you later when your teen is in emotional trouble, or who is raising significant funds for another cause you care about. People are complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change.

I drove an SUV a for a long time and I felt safe in it especially when it snows which is rare this year but in years past a few storms a year in DC. Plus traveling it is more comfortable and giving rides to kids friends need more space.

Have downsized now and can only fit 3 kids total in my fancy sedan. SUVs for a family are practical. Kids, suitcases, etc… also we drove more than we fly. How much gas are you using flying all over? Op don’t be so judgmental. You will isolate yourself.

So why not a mini-van? Why the giant SUV?

The OP is a troll. This is not serious. Just very obnoxious.

And the same troll who started the anti-car thread. They’ll deny it, because they’re terrible at masking their overly verbose word-vomit writing style and word and syntax choices, but they are. Some bored, lonely troll begging for attention on the internet. Sad.

If you are so convinced, ask Jeff if the threads were started by the same person (they weren't, I know because I'm the OP of the anti-SUV thread but not this one).

I'm sorry your vocabulary and reading comprehension is so poor, I'm sure that's frustrating for you. Perhaps you can wipe your tears on your Escalade.

That’s for confirming that you are the lone, annoying bike poster.

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In certain areas it's almost impossible to have friends without a SUV. I live in such an area. Although I hate SUV's profundly, I have a SUV-driving friend. She's a warm and funny person but like all SUV-drivers she's not the brightest head in this universe. She lives in her worold of consumption like there is no future. Our kids will have to pay the price for it.

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Bye!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about the SUV’s specifically but yes these types of people are why I don’t really have good friends. I can’t relate to them at all - we are friendly acquaintances and that’s it.

I feel the same about the ski trips out west, home remodels, country clubs, private schools, etc. It’s just never ending for many of these families and I feel like an alien visiting a foreign land I don’t understand. And I’ve been here 15 years.

This, I don't get any of it. It's a values system I wasn't raised with and don't understand.

The thing in the OP I most relate to is that feeling when you notice that a bunch of the people around you all have the exact same thing, like there was a memo that went out. It reminds me of this one woman on my neighborhood listserv who sometimes posts things like, "Ok y'all, what shoes are we all buying for the littles now? Are Natives still in or have people found something better?" It is always extremely jarring to me because she's not asking for a recommendation, she wants to know what "everyone" is doing so that she can do it too. This is such a strange way to go through life, it would not occur to me. When I see her posts, I always click on them so I can read them and the responses, it's like being Jane Goodall or something. Fascinating, but something I observe from a distance.

PP and yes this exactly. It’s a whole mindset, not just the SUV. I feel like such an imposter and so out of place. I think “my people” are probably somewhere in rural New England but I hate the cold and winter so no idea where I will go when my kids finish HS. Thank goodness my DH gets it and gets me. If not I would be totally lost.

Meh, I feel like the shoe example sounds like something I would say to my friends. Not bc I want to be the same, but bc I know they have probably done some research to figure out what the best shoes are for kids and I want to reap the benefits of that

Nah, that's still "wanting to be the same" but just subconscious. You are outsourcing your decision making to other people because you assume they know better, or because you don't want to put in the effort yourself. You might tell yourself, "this isn't about my kids having the same shoes, or us driving the same car, or going on the same vacations as everyone we know -- it's just smart outsourcing." But the thing you are outsourcing is not "research" it's "thinking". And people outsource thinking so they don't have to think for themselves.

Plus there is safety in doing what others do because then if you make a mistake, it's the same mistake everyone made. If it turns out that SUVs are hella dangerous and destroying the environment, oh well, everyone I know did the same shitty thing so no one can get mad at me, personally. If it turns out those rubber shoes are made by enslaved children in Asia, oh well, at least I'm not the only one. And so on. You are hiding in the safety of numbers, which is the exact same thing all these other people are doing.

It's groupthink. You're a sheep. Maybe you are fine with it, but it's what you are.

Every time you call someone a “sheep,” you embarrass yourself. If that’s your goal, by all means, keep going.

It’s hilarious to me that you felt so implicated by this comment from many pages ago that I had to reply, but that you have no argument at all to refute it. You saw yourself in this description, became incensed, and all you could muster was “you embarrass yourself.” I’m dying

[Anonymous]

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In certain areas it's almost impossible to have friends without a SUV. I live in such an area. Although I hate SUV's profundly, I have a SUV-driving friend. She's a warm and funny person but like all SUV-drivers she's not the brightest head in this universe. She lives in her worold of consumption like there is no future. Our kids will have to pay the price for it.

Yes, because no one intentionally makes decisions like hers. You're a terrible friend and even worse person. Also not very bright.

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Never mind. Your parents were definitely early adopters if they were buying the first-gen Prius in 1997.

Which also means they were INCREDIBLY wealthy. Interesting that OP hasn't brought socioeconomic class into this - I suspect she's just angry others can afford a lifestyle she doesn't believe they're entitled to.

OP here. We were middle class. Prius was 22k. Bought the car my senior year which was 2008

Hahahahahahaha! Middle class and bought you a $22k car. Yeah, ok, you loon.

In 2008 a Prius was absolutely a status symbol/ fancy people car. Like Teslas are now (minus the whole Elon Musk factor).

No it wasn’t. I had a Range Rover in 2008. Prius was still lame.

But expensive. Point is, OP's family wasn't middle class.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it took this long for someone to note the disconnect between the wealthy, conformist moms and ALDIs. But in the event the post is real, I’m not a perfect person, and neither are you OP. And guess what, I have lots of imperfect friends. Individuals sometimes make choices that conflict with others’ values. That same gas guzzler might be the first person to show up at your house with a meal if you were seriously sick. Reducing people to one choice is a an awfully simplistic and unsatisfying way to go through life. You’re going to rule out a whole lot of people who might enrich your life. That said, if it’s a dealbreaker, you don’t have to hang out with them. Just know that each of those people you’re dismissing could be the person who alerts you later when your teen is in emotional trouble, or who is raising significant funds for another cause you care about. People are complicated.

Op here. That's precisely WHY I thought it was funny three moms with the same car were at Aldi. Aldi is closer to us. Whole foods are about 15 minutes away. Aldi parking lot is also easier for their big fat SUVs to sit. No kids were with any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it took this long for someone to note the disconnect between the wealthy, conformist moms and ALDIs. But in the event the post is real, I’m not a perfect person, and neither are you OP. And guess what, I have lots of imperfect friends. Individuals sometimes make choices that conflict with others’ values. That same gas guzzler might be the first person to show up at your house with a meal if you were seriously sick. Reducing people to one choice is a an awfully simplistic and unsatisfying way to go through life. You’re going to rule out a whole lot of people who might enrich your life. That said, if it’s a dealbreaker, you don’t have to hang out with them. Just know that each of those people you’re dismissing could be the person who alerts you later when your teen is in emotional trouble, or who is raising significant funds for another cause you care about. People are complicated.

Op here. That's precisely WHY I thought it was funny three moms with the same car were at Aldi. Aldi is closer to us. Whole foods are about 15 minutes away. Aldi parking lot is also easier for their big fat SUVs to sit. No kids were with any of them.

The trolling is getting old. You first said that you overheard the kids talking about their vacations in the checkout line. Now you say that they didn’t have kids with them at all. I understand it’s amusing for you to make up imaginary people to hate on anonymously online, but you must understand that it’s also pretty sad.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it took this long for someone to note the disconnect between the wealthy, conformist moms and ALDIs. But in the event the post is real, I’m not a perfect person, and neither are you OP. And guess what, I have lots of imperfect friends. Individuals sometimes make choices that conflict with others’ values. That same gas guzzler might be the first person to show up at your house with a meal if you were seriously sick. Reducing people to one choice is a an awfully simplistic and unsatisfying way to go through life. You’re going to rule out a whole lot of people who might enrich your life. That said, if it’s a dealbreaker, you don’t have to hang out with them. Just know that each of those people you’re dismissing could be the person who alerts you later when your teen is in emotional trouble, or who is raising significant funds for another cause you care about. People are complicated.

Op here. That's precisely WHY I thought it was funny three moms with the same car were at Aldi. Aldi is closer to us. Whole foods are about 15 minutes away. Aldi parking lot is also easier for their big fat SUVs to sit. No kids were with any of them.

The trolling is getting old. You first said that you overheard the kids talking about their vacations in the checkout line. Now you say that they didn’t have kids with them at all. I understand it’s amusing for you to make up imaginary people to hate on anonymously online, but you must understand that it’s also pretty sad.

I didn't say that. I said they were talking obnoxiously in line about their vacations, and yes, I think it's inappropriate to speak loudly in line at a discount grocery store about your fancy vacations. I think it's sad you're so hung up trying to call a troll. Go back and reread the original post. I never said anything about kids being there.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently moved to the suburbs, and they are everywhere. Some of the kids are in travel lacrosse and soccer and they are in FIRST grade. They all have the same exact huge white SUV. It was hilarious the other day because a few of them ran into each other at the grocery store and were talking obnoxiously about their vacations while standing in line at Aldi. Anyway, once I got to the parking lot, they were all talking and loading their groceries. They all have the exact type of car a HUGE white SUV. My first car in high school was a Prius. Dh wants an SUV but I am adamant about having a sedan. We have two kids, and it's fine. Do these people not care about global warming? We had an earthquake a week ago, killing thousands of people. Driving these huge cars is such a waste and global warming contributes to more earthquakes. I went from living in an apartment to this. It's such a big change. [/quote



Where does it mention anything about kids being at the grocery store with them?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it took this long for someone to note the disconnect between the wealthy, conformist moms and ALDIs. But in the event the post is real, I’m not a perfect person, and neither are you OP. And guess what, I have lots of imperfect friends. Individuals sometimes make choices that conflict with others’ values. That same gas guzzler might be the first person to show up at your house with a meal if you were seriously sick. Reducing people to one choice is a an awfully simplistic and unsatisfying way to go through life. You’re going to rule out a whole lot of people who might enrich your life. That said, if it’s a dealbreaker, you don’t have to hang out with them. Just know that each of those people you’re dismissing could be the person who alerts you later when your teen is in emotional trouble, or who is raising significant funds for another cause you care about. People are complicated.

Op here. That's precisely WHY I thought it was funny three moms with the same car were at Aldi. Aldi is closer to us. Whole foods are about 15 minutes away. Aldi parking lot is also easier for their big fat SUVs to sit. No kids were with any of them.

The trolling is getting old. You first said that you overheard the kids talking about their vacations in the checkout line. Now you say that they didn’t have kids with them at all. I understand it’s amusing for you to make up imaginary people to hate on anonymously online, but you must understand that it’s also pretty sad.

PP. Stop adding to the story.