Which universities have gone DOWN in stature over the years?

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

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Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

I think it's often viewed as a safety for some Illinois middle class kids who don't get into the engineering program at UIUC. But it's still a very small amount.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

Yeah kids with a 36 ACT and 4.0 GPA (what you need for a full scholarship from Alabama) didn’t get into their state flagships. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

Yeah kids with a 36 ACT and 4.0 GPA (what you need for a full scholarship from Alabama) didn’t get into their state flagships. Got it.

Their automatic scholarship page for OOS lists the highest as presidential as qualifying with a 3.5 GPA, 32 ACT or 1420 SAT, which gets you 28k.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

Yeah kids with a 36 ACT and 4.0 GPA (what you need for a full scholarship from Alabama) didn’t get into their state flagships. Got it.

Must be an Alabama football booster the way the goalposts kept moving.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

But Alabama's stature has gone DOWN over 60 USNEWS ranks in the last decade. I'm glad your child is happy there, but this is pure southern copium.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

It's fine to take the deal, but it will make it harder for your child to get into any graduate program except business/law school. Send them to VT or UMD if they have real ambitions.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Its the Michigan weather forecast brought to you by DCUM.

Are you a pit bull mom in Michigan? Why else would you be so triggered and insecure.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

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Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

But Alabama's stature has gone DOWN over 60 USNEWS ranks in the last decade. I'm glad your child is happy there, but this is pure southern copium.

Oh my gosh, US News! You couldn't sound like any more of an out of touch nut who lives on message forums. Go outside and touch grass.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

Yeah pretty soon Alabama will be a top 145 university. Most of those scholarship kids are going to Alabama for the because they did not get into their in-state flagship.

Yeah kids with a 36 ACT and 4.0 GPA (what you need for a full scholarship from Alabama) didn’t get into their state flagships. Got it.

These people are clueless and insecure middle west posts. Maybe it's one person. Either way, I know AFFLUENT smart students who accepted the scholarships from Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss. And I think the two students we know who went to Clemson and Georgia also got some merit awards. Certainly better than in-state flagship which was offering them literally $0 in merit awards. Plus they wanted to do the whole Southern Greek life thing plus warm weather.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Its the Michigan weather forecast brought to you by DCUM.

Are you a pit bull mom in Michigan? Why else would you be so triggered and insecure.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.



https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

Um, does anyone really think that Mississippi or Alabama is a "bustling" region of the country with good career prospects? I mean, no harm intended, but both those states rank at the bottom in terms of educational level, poverty, health care, etc. No thanks.

If you’re a smart kid in Kansas who gets offered full tuition to Bama or a full ride to Ole Miss, you would be foolish not to take it. And tons of kids are taking it. They have excellent cost of living as well. Sorry you don’t understand that.

Parts of Arkansas are lovely due to the presence of Walmart HQ.

No one said Alabama and Mississippi don't have a low cost of living or are physically unattractive. But talented college graduates are looking way beyond those things in looking where to start a career. I highly doubt top grads from Ole Miss, from example -- especially if they are from the DMV area -- are flocking to Jackson, MS or Bentonville, Arkansas, but rather to Atlanta or Nashville IF they even decided to stick to the South. The rankings and statistics speak from themselves. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Keep up. We’re talking about kids from the Midwest. University of Alabama has been able to raise its stature dramatically over the past several years by offering high merit scholarships, especially for their engineering program, to go there and live in a warm, LCOL area. It’s a big fun school, too.

But Alabama's stature has gone DOWN over 60 USNEWS ranks in the last decade. I'm glad your child is happy there, but this is pure southern copium.

Oh my gosh, US News! You couldn't sound like any more of an out of touch nut who lives on message forums. Go outside and touch grass.

Bless you heart.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten. The southern universities are recruiting smart out of state kids very aggressively and it's working.

False.

NP. In what way is that false?

It is not false, it is echoed throughout this thread. Colleges rising in stature are on the coasts or in the warm clime south. While colleges losing prestige frequently tend to be cold, stagnant regions, notably the middle west. In Michigan, it was just reported by the Detroit News that a dozen of their public universities have lost upwards of 40% of their students — "plummeting enrollment" fueled by brain drain. From October to April, which is about 90% of the school year, the upper middle west is so miserable and grey. With the internet and social media, teens see their peers having fun in the sun and living in bustling regions, who the heck wants to wear a parka to class all school year in a region you have to flee after graduation? Like, what's the point? Logical people go to college in a region or side of the country they see themselves beginning a career in after college.

https://www.mlive.com/weather/2022/04/numbers-show-just-how-cloudy-it-has-been-in-michigan.html

Name one Big Ten flagship that has lost 40% of its enrollment or has plummeting enrollment.

Nobody said anything about those. Those aren’t the only type of colleges that exist, you know.

yeah someone did-

Everything in the middle west, especially cold weather northern states is in decline. Smart middle west 12th graders can go to places like Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss for less than in-state Big Ten.

Yeah but then they have to go to “Ole Miss”

For certain southern kids, going to an SEC school and joining a top frat or sorority is very much the goal.

I’d go almost anywhere for a full ride, and Ole Miss offers full rides to top students.

It's fine to take the deal, but it will make it harder for your child to get into any graduate program except business/law school. Send them to VT or UMD if they have real ambitions.

What a dumb comment? Have you ever been to a big city in the South? You know, the cities where everyone is moving these days? They are run by frat gods from SEC schools, most of whom could've gone to a school like UMD if they'd wanted. Instead, they chose four years of better weather and hotter coeds while still setting themselves up for post-college success. Get out of your ACELA bubble.