Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've posted a bunch in this thread (but not for the last 5 or 6 pages, you guys have been busy) but I'm not a Blake Lively fan. I don't like her and actually over the summer I was in this thread posting about how awful she was in that interview that got posted everywhere and I thought her promotion of this movie was incredibly tone deaf.

But I'm defending her in this battle with Baldoni. Not because I think she's for sure right about everything but because she's alleging stuff I have experienced in the workplace and I have found the level of dismissiveness in this thread bizarre. Like if it turns out she's lying about everything, that's one thing. But people in this thread are acting like it's no big deal if a producer insists on talking to an actress while she's topless, against her express wishes. Or like an actress who is wearing very little clothing and filming a scene simulating childbirth with her feet in stirrups is crazy for wanting a higher level of sensitivity/professionalism while that scenes is shot. And so on. There is this weird desire for people to just dismiss everything she's saying out of hand, because they don't like her.

I don't like her but sexual harassment is a serious problem and even people with annoying personalities deserve safe, harassment-free workplaces. People in this thread are engaging in a ton of gaslighting, blaming the victim, and other common behaviors used to silence people who speak up about this kind of mistreatment. I don't like it, so I'm defending her. Even though I have no interest in seeing this movie, don't think she's a good actress, and find her and her husband pretty annoying.


Thank you very much for this comment. This is basically how I feel too, although I have watched the movie. I don’t care about Blake Lively except that some of what she is complaining about resonated with me also. And the spin in this thread from the Baldoni supporters is crazy, to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've posted a bunch in this thread (but not for the last 5 or 6 pages, you guys have been busy) but I'm not a Blake Lively fan. I don't like her and actually over the summer I was in this thread posting about how awful she was in that interview that got posted everywhere and I thought her promotion of this movie was incredibly tone deaf.

But I'm defending her in this battle with Baldoni. Not because I think she's for sure right about everything but because she's alleging stuff I have experienced in the workplace and I have found the level of dismissiveness in this thread bizarre. Like if it turns out she's lying about everything, that's one thing. But people in this thread are acting like it's no big deal if a producer insists on talking to an actress while she's topless, against her express wishes. Or like an actress who is wearing very little clothing and filming a scene simulating childbirth with her feet in stirrups is crazy for wanting a higher level of sensitivity/professionalism while that scenes is shot. And so on. There is this weird desire for people to just dismiss everything she's saying out of hand, because they don't like her.

I don't like her but sexual harassment is a serious problem and even people with annoying personalities deserve safe, harassment-free workplaces. People in this thread are engaging in a ton of gaslighting, blaming the victim, and other common behaviors used to silence people who speak up about this kind of mistreatment. I don't like it, so I'm defending her. Even though I have no interest in seeing this movie, don't think she's a good actress, and find her and her husband pretty annoying.


Thank you very much for this comment. This is basically how I feel too, although I have watched the movie. I don’t care about Blake Lively except that some of what she is complaining about resonated with me also. And the spin in this thread from the Baldoni supporters is crazy, to me.



It isn’t spin. There are three complaints. Some people read all three and reached conclusions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've posted a bunch in this thread (but not for the last 5 or 6 pages, you guys have been busy) but I'm not a Blake Lively fan. I don't like her and actually over the summer I was in this thread posting about how awful she was in that interview that got posted everywhere and I thought her promotion of this movie was incredibly tone deaf.

But I'm defending her in this battle with Baldoni. Not because I think she's for sure right about everything but because she's alleging stuff I have experienced in the workplace and I have found the level of dismissiveness in this thread bizarre. Like if it turns out she's lying about everything, that's one thing. But people in this thread are acting like it's no big deal if a producer insists on talking to an actress while she's topless, against her express wishes. Or like an actress who is wearing very little clothing and filming a scene simulating childbirth with her feet in stirrups is crazy for wanting a higher level of sensitivity/professionalism while that scenes is shot. And so on. There is this weird desire for people to just dismiss everything she's saying out of hand, because they don't like her.

I don't like her but sexual harassment is a serious problem and even people with annoying personalities deserve safe, harassment-free workplaces. People in this thread are engaging in a ton of gaslighting, blaming the victim, and other common behaviors used to silence people who speak up about this kind of mistreatment. I don't like it, so I'm defending her. Even though I have no interest in seeing this movie, don't think she's a good actress, and find her and her husband pretty annoying.


Thank you very much for this comment. This is basically how I feel too, although I have watched the movie. I don’t care about Blake Lively except that some of what she is complaining about resonated with me also. And the spin in this thread from the Baldoni supporters is crazy, to me.



It isn’t spin. There are three complaints. Some people read all three and reached conclusions.


Exactly. People on this thread seem to take sexual-harassment very seriously but a lot of these are very murky incidents and hardly straightforward.

People are saying, Justin took on too much and couldn’t run a good set, directing and acting and being inexperienced was too much, well maybe Blake shouldn’t have tried to be starring in a movie after having her fourth kid, and getting ready to launch a hair line, while running her drink lines. It’s possible she took on too much too.

The latest story about the incident with Jamie Heath in her trailer annoys me because why is she so special that she just couldn’t meet with the other producers? I just don’t know why she had to have her makeup taken off at exactly that moment. It seems like she was comfortable breast-feeding onset, so why couldn’t she have just gone to the meeting with her baby and taken the makeup off after? It seems ridiculous that she wanted a special meeting in her trailer with the cofounder of the production company.

I also get the feeling that she is constantly thinking people want to look at her boobs or think that she’s so hot that men can act normal around her. Maybe she was with a bunch of buffoons that acted totally inappropriately but it just seems strange since so many people on that that made her uncomfortable. at first when she made these complaints I thought I was just Justin and he must be a real creep but it seems like she had a problem with a lot of different men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone involved in this is so unlikable.


+1000 Justin comes across as smarmy, Ryan Reynolds a control freak bully, and Blake Lively a delusional self-important mean girl. Sorry, I don’t believe all these men are desperate to catch a glimpse of her breastfeeding or gawk at her in stirrups… lady you aren’t that hot or special.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've posted a bunch in this thread (but not for the last 5 or 6 pages, you guys have been busy) but I'm not a Blake Lively fan. I don't like her and actually over the summer I was in this thread posting about how awful she was in that interview that got posted everywhere and I thought her promotion of this movie was incredibly tone deaf.

But I'm defending her in this battle with Baldoni. Not because I think she's for sure right about everything but because she's alleging stuff I have experienced in the workplace and I have found the level of dismissiveness in this thread bizarre. Like if it turns out she's lying about everything, that's one thing. But people in this thread are acting like it's no big deal if a producer insists on talking to an actress while she's topless, against her express wishes. Or like an actress who is wearing very little clothing and filming a scene simulating childbirth with her feet in stirrups is crazy for wanting a higher level of sensitivity/professionalism while that scenes is shot. And so on. There is this weird desire for people to just dismiss everything she's saying out of hand, because they don't like her.

I don't like her but sexual harassment is a serious problem and even people with annoying personalities deserve safe, harassment-free workplaces. People in this thread are engaging in a ton of gaslighting, blaming the victim, and other common behaviors used to silence people who speak up about this kind of mistreatment. I don't like it, so I'm defending her. Even though I have no interest in seeing this movie, don't think she's a good actress, and find her and her husband pretty annoying.


Thank you very much for this comment. This is basically how I feel too, although I have watched the movie. I don’t care about Blake Lively except that some of what she is complaining about resonated with me also. And the spin in this thread from the Baldoni supporters is crazy, to me.



It isn’t spin. There are three complaints. Some people read all three and reached conclusions.


I think most of those people were on a side before supposedly reading hundreds of pages of legal documents. Bias plays a huge role here.
Anonymous
I can’t keep up with this thread or current thoughts. Can someone post an order of operations of what happened? Something like:

- NYT article published saying JB had negative PR plants against BL
- BL sues JB for sexual harassment. Something something in works for months prior
- then what happened? Did JB counter sued BL for libel or something? $400M?

Lots of stories and posts have seriously confused me on order of operations as various stories entered the news / this site.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone involved in this is so unlikable.


+1000 Justin comes across as smarmy, Ryan Reynolds a control freak bully, and Blake Lively a delusional self-important mean girl. Sorry, I don’t believe all these men are desperate to catch a glimpse of her breastfeeding or gawk at her in stirrups… lady you aren’t that hot or special.


+1 to that poster saying this gives a vibe of "I'm so hot everyone is trying to cop a look at me"
Anonymous
A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.
Anonymous
Oh and don’t forget too the continually posted view that new mothers should not be given any support or accommodation in the workplace. They need to work as though they never just gave birth and any request for anything related to having just had a baby makes them an entitled controlling diva.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot of posters seem to have come over from the MRA board. Sexual harassment is rarely about how hot someone is. Women who aren’t the hottest can also be sexually harassed. The argument that there is no way anything untoward happened because she isn’t hot enough is nonsense.

The last few pages on how she brought any harassment that happened on herself. And he can’t help it, it’s not natural to to keep your bag turned so it’s fine if he looked regardless of what she asked, and now she isn’t hot enough to be harassed. Some of you are leaning hard into the misogynistic blame game. It was her fault, she deserved it, men can’t help themself, she isn’t hot enough for that to be called harassment.


Literally no one said you have to be hot to be sexually harassed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh and don’t forget too the continually posted view that new mothers should not be given any support or accommodation in the workplace. They need to work as though they never just gave birth and any request for anything related to having just had a baby makes them an entitled controlling diva.



On the contrary, everyone on the set accommodated her to the nth degree and that’s what caused the problems. The cofounder of the production company should not be having a meeting with Blake in a make up trailer with a make up artist and nanny. The person in the more senior position always sets the location of the meeting and that person was Blake. She was the star and they were absolutely treating her like one.

How many women on this thread have ever said to their CEO, or that c-suite, you are going to have to adapt to my breast-feeding and pumping schedule so you can come to me when it works for me.

That’s not how that works. There was a producer meeting that didn’t work with Blake’s schedule so they were accommodating her and the cofounder of the production company, who sounds pretty important, was willing to come to her trailer to meet while she had makeup taken off and breast-fed. It seems like they were tripping over themselves to accommodate her.
Anonymous
No one id saying she brought harrassmrmt on herself. There seems to be different definitions of what constitutes harrassment..The production believed they were accommodating Blake Lively, but she felt harrassed in a number of instances. This will be for a jury to decide. It is a fact that Lively's complaint left out how her meeting at her home with Baldoni went down. Almost like she did nor want to acknowledge that she brought Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift into her work conflict.

In addition to the allegations of harrassment of Lively,, such behavior points to possible harrassment of Baldoni, although nor sexual. We will have to wait for the court case to get the whole story in sworn testimony.
Anonymous
Used to be a Swifty. Not so much anymore. I’ve read some of the allegations. Thinking his team did not follow all protocols, or that they shifted from time to time. But nothing here seems strong enough to support a claim for sexual harassment, IMO.

Nothing justifies their supposed treatment of Justin or his family. Overall it feels like an overreach.

I actually like RR’s persona before this. Not so much now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can’t keep up with this thread or current thoughts. Can someone post an order of operations of what happened? Something like:

- NYT article published saying JB had negative PR plants against BL
- BL sues JB for sexual harassment. Something something in works for months prior
- then what happened? Did JB counter sued BL for libel or something? $400M?

Lots of stories and posts have seriously confused me on order of operations as various stories entered the news / this site.


NYT published Blake’s side of the story on or around December 20. Her lawsuit or at that point complaint that was filed I do not believe was for sexual harassment, I think it was saying Justin retaliated against because she had bought sexual harassment allegations to light during filming, and she felt that Justin had hired a PR team to smear her.

What we saw in the New York Times and of course her complaint was her side of the story. That got particularly messy because at the same time some of the PR people on Justin’s team were going to war with each other and so some text messages from one of the publicists who left for another firm got out which I don’t think would have been bought to light had it not been for their issues.

Around New Year’s Eve Justin sued the New York Times. Not sure the actual legal claim but essentially for publishing a very biased one sided story.

In recent days, he filed suit against Ryan Reynolds and Blake and possibly some others. His team released a 179 page document that refuted several of lively’s claims and gave his side of the story.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Used to be a Swifty. Not so much anymore. I’ve read some of the allegations. Thinking his team did not follow all protocols, or that they shifted from time to time. But nothing here seems strong enough to support a claim for sexual harassment, IMO.

Nothing justifies their supposed treatment of Justin or his family. Overall it feels like an overreach.

I actually like RR’s persona before this. Not so much now.


I agree with most of this, but I’m going to leave Taylor out of it because all she really did was be in the apartment and I think Blake asked her to come into the room and say something nice about the script in front of Justin. It was annoying but not really Taylor‘s fault and there’s no other evidence that she’s done anything to bully Justin.
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