
Good thing this privileged white man has gullible women ready to destroy another woman over so little. This is a victimless crime but you would think someone died. |
So responding to a lawsuit filed by Blake is "destroying" her? She started the fight. JB is not allowed to respond to attacks on him? Okay. |
He is good. What you all are doing in here is something else. As I said. |
Well if he's good, why are you here arguing about how he victimized Blake? Bizarre. |
Yeah, he can file his lawsuit and let's see where things go. Though the fact that he hired a PR firm that's posting fake info under fake accounts is telling, to me. |
It's almost like maybe I'm someone different. Do you know how this all works? |
So you support Baldoni? Good. He is the victim of Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively. |
You're not the judge and jury. We'll see how this plays out. |
How is it victimless, if allegations on either side are true? |
I've posted a bunch in this thread (but not for the last 5 or 6 pages, you guys have been busy) but I'm not a Blake Lively fan. I don't like her and actually over the summer I was in this thread posting about how awful she was in that interview that got posted everywhere and I thought her promotion of this movie was incredibly tone deaf.
But I'm defending her in this battle with Baldoni. Not because I think she's for sure right about everything but because she's alleging stuff I have experienced in the workplace and I have found the level of dismissiveness in this thread bizarre. Like if it turns out she's lying about everything, that's one thing. But people in this thread are acting like it's no big deal if a producer insists on talking to an actress while she's topless, against her express wishes. Or like an actress who is wearing very little clothing and filming a scene simulating childbirth with her feet in stirrups is crazy for wanting a higher level of sensitivity/professionalism while that scenes is shot. And so on. There is this weird desire for people to just dismiss everything she's saying out of hand, because they don't like her. I don't like her but sexual harassment is a serious problem and even people with annoying personalities deserve safe, harassment-free workplaces. People in this thread are engaging in a ton of gaslighting, blaming the victim, and other common behaviors used to silence people who speak up about this kind of mistreatment. I don't like it, so I'm defending her. Even though I have no interest in seeing this movie, don't think she's a good actress, and find her and her husband pretty annoying. |
What is the crime exactly? |
What you said makes a lot of sense. But when you were sexually harassed, I’m betting you and your husband aren’t worth $400 million and at the top of whatever industry you were in. Sexual harassment is usually about power. Is interesting to me that at the beginning of these lawsuits before a lot of the information was out, Blake defenders on this thread were saying she was powerless on set. She was simply like any than actress and didn’t have any special power as her executive producer credit was gotten later. As more information has come out, it is clear she had a lot of power on the set. Then the blake defenders flipped and said well, of course they accommodated her, she was a huge star and brought a lot of marketing power to the film so they wanted to accommodate her and any star of her magnitude would’ve expected the same. Whatever, it now seems like she did have a lot of power and people were really trying to accommodate her. It seems like that is part of the murkiness. For example, she was allowed to skip meetings with the IC cause she was busy and they were trying to accommodate her as a new mom. Turns out that may have caused some problems. And people wanted to make sure she had time and space to breast-feed and pump, so there were meetings where she was breast-feeding and pumping that may have exposed her in ways that felt inappropriate. It may have been sexual harassment may not have been. I’m not convinced either way. |
To PP who was sexually harassed: I think this is just getting a little convoluted. People were 100% siding with Blake right after her complaint and the NYT article came out, so it isn’t that (1) people don’t like Blake; (2) people don’t think sexual harassment is serious; or (3) people don’t think her allegations are serious. They are. I think it’s more that people are doubting that she’s telling the truth after reading JB’s complaint. It’s feeling like she cherry picked a few awkward but innocent situations because she was mad at things he had done that had nothing to do with sexual harassment.
She is entitled to her day in court, and I think everyone will be supportive of her if it turns out JB is lying (and he will be complete toast). But I think some (def not all) people are extending the benefit of the doubt to JB’s camp (for now) because they are saying they have all this video evidence to support their claims. They would be digging their own graves here if they are lying and are planning to show proof of their own lies. It seems mad, in fact. But it still could be the case! TBD! As an analogy: If I read a read a news story that a defendant was claiming his innocence but the prosecution was claiming they had video of him committing the crime, I’m going to think the defendant probably did it. But obviously we still need to have the trial and have the jury review the purported evidence. |
Yeah Blake conveniently left out the part where she had Baldoni over and she, Ryan, and Taylor Swift intimidated him. |
Everyone involved in this is so unlikable. |