Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Gold was B Team for McLean? CYA generally goes Purple, Gold, Black, White. There is a Silver team at U11B this year. Not sure if it is C or D team.

White usually is B team for McLean.

McLean: ECNL > Green > White > Gold

You forgot to mention DA.

MYS lost their boy's DA and is not getting it back anytime soon. In contrast to ASA, DCU, and Loudon, MYS has U12 only now, and will have to send those boys elsewhere (or relegate them to CCL on Green) . . . so not a MYS player path for boys DA and they have no pathway alliance (as of yet).

So for McLean:

Girls: ECNL, Green, White, Gold

Boys: DA (U12 only), Green, White, Gold, Silver

Yet the U15 McLean boys won Nationals...

[Anonymous]

God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

someone asked to translate the hierarchy of colors at each club, so PPs are just answering the question ... you know, like actually providing a meaningful answer to an actual question

[Anonymous]

U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

I agree training is most important, but where can you get best training in this area? Also your peer's level in training is very important, right?

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Anonymous wrote:HERN REST GRFL LOUD MCLN VYS CYA NVSC PAC STER LMVSC ARL
Black Blue Blue Red Green Red Purple Blue Navy Orange Red Red
Red White White Black White Black Gold White White White White White
White Yellow Gold White Gold White Silver Blue Blue
Green Silver Silver Black Black
White Silver
Gold

PWSI POTOMAC SYA VSA BRYC GSC FPYC BETHESDA DCST Waldorf SMS
Red Blue Red Blue Elite Red Blue Blue Blue Orange Gold
WhiteWhite Gold Blue White Gold Green Red Red
Black White White White

Well that formatting came out horribly. Forget that. : )

lol....oh well. Everyone could share what their club's color rank means. That could be simplest. FPYC (NCSL) only has two teams: Blue = A. Gold = B.

If you look at the raw text when you're quoting, it works. Here's what I see, along with a few quirks I know ...

FPYC: Blue, Gold
HERN: Black, Red, White
REST: Blue, White, Yellow, Green
GRFL: Blue, White, Gold (sometimes with some other names thrown in, like Lazio or Estudiantes)
LOUD: Red, Black, White, Silver (I also see Gray and Green in ODSL)
MCLN: Green, White, Gold, Silver, White
VYS: Red, Black, White (also Silver in ODSL. They've had Gold in the past, but that's not likely to happen again soon. And top girls teams now called "Phoenix"
CYA: Purple, Gold, Silver, Black (also White)
NVSC: Blue, White
PAC: Navy, White (then Gold and Silver in ODSL. Also, girls teams are starting to go by Gold)
STER: Orange, White
LMVSC: Red, White, Blue
ARL: Red, White, Blue, Black, Silver, Gold
PWSI: Red, White (that can't be all)
POT: Blue, White, Black
SYA: Red (also Black)
VSA: Blue, Gold, White
BRYC: Elite, Blue, White (note: most ODSL teams are run out of separate rec department)
GSC: Red, White
BETH: Blue, Green (gets very confusing when they move up to DA, EDP, etc.)
DCST: Blue, White, Red
WALD: Orange
SMS: Gold, Red

I'll add:

ALEX: Red, White, Blue, Black, Silver

I don't know FRED, FCV, SYC or TAFC. I also get Barca's "Elite" and "Premier" confused. SAC has Showcase Blue, Blue, White, and the occasional Showcase White.

At older age groups, you can have a lot of confusing names because an entire team may jump from one club to another but maintain its old nickname.

FCV: ECNL>Elite>Premier

What is their U11 boys FCVA United Premier 06B? Do they have their A team in NPL and B team in NCSL?

NPL allows both A and B teams. But if not enough clubs put in their B teams then those B teams need to play in another league. That is more of a moving target.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

They just asked a question, Jesus get a grip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

They just asked a question, Jesus get a grip.

No kidding. What a DB. Using that school of thought, let's just not have the kids play any matches and do away with all the leagues. Most of us know that it's the training that's important, but the kids do enjoy playing matches, wearing the kit, etc. God forbid we let them do anything they actually enjoy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God. Colors mean shit. DA at U12/13 means shit. CCL means shit. Current NCSL divisions at U12 mean shit.

Who cares what colors at what clubs suggest?

As the latest VYSA newsletter recites: the best U12 players are almost never the best players at U19.

Keep focusing on the wrong stuff. Have at it!

Those in the know could give zero fucks. Get the best training. Colors mean shit. If a kid doesn't willingly go out and practice/play in his free time, he ain't developing worth a shit.

And most players won't be the best players at U19 regardless of how they play at U12. The number of players who will be in the top five percent at U19 will always be five percent.

So please pardon us if we're concerned about our kids' experiences at U11. If they turn out to be great U19 players, great. In the meantime, we're just kind of hoping they're not playing in mismatches every single game. (My kid's closest game this season is four goals. Won some, lost some. None close. That's not great from a "fun" standpoint or a "development" standpoint.)

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

That's what the poster said. Look at the top clubs at U17 to U19 and then argue and debate about what clubs produce. On the better older teams you can see where the players were when they were younger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

That's what the poster said. Look at the top clubs at U17 to U19 and then argue and debate about what clubs produce. On the better older teams you can see where the players were when they were younger.

It can truly be eye-opening...

I never get the people that pick a club by name at age 9 or state cup winners in the older years. It really says nothing on the type of training they will receive.

I get just starting at your home club, btw, for obvious reasons: distance, friends, etc. But--if the development seems off---check around quickly. We wasted our older child's development when we weren't happy for 3 years. Younger sibling had the benefit of our knowledge and the training he is receiving is night and day and the atmosphere so much better. I should have listened to my own son after his first year when he wanted better training after seeing it a few camps with other Clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

That's what the poster said. Look at the top clubs at U17 to U19 and then argue and debate about what clubs produce. On the better older teams you can see where the players were when they were younger.

OK -- so does anyone have a handy spreadsheet of all the top clubs at U17 through U19 and which teams they were on from U9 to U16? Not just clubs, of course, but we want colors as well. McLean Green? Sterling Orange? Cugini Polkadots?

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

That's what the poster said. Look at the top clubs at U17 to U19 and then argue and debate about what clubs produce. On the better older teams you can see where the players were when they were younger.

OK -- so does anyone have a handy spreadsheet of all the top clubs at U17 through U19 and which teams they were on from U9 to U16? Not just clubs, of course, but we want colors as well. McLean Green? Sterling Orange? Cugini Polkadots?

Hahaa that thread would have way less pages than this tail chasing bull shit of a thread.

And colors of the same age group wouldn't matter because we would only look at the TOP teams.

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Anonymous wrote:U17 and above should be the age groups that people discuss as being great clubs. All the players from a lot of those teams didn't come from one particular club or weren't homegrown into that club.

I'd say find the best 15-20 teams in VA and then the best 5-10 clubs in Maryland at U17-U19and dissect where those players came from to gauge all of these arguments

If you look all the players who play for the top top 15 U17 teams in VA and look at what club they came from...I'm sure you'll find that that a player or two came from just about every club in the area, no?

That's what the poster said. Look at the top clubs at U17 to U19 and then argue and debate about what clubs produce. On the better older teams you can see where the players were when they were younger.

OK -- so does anyone have a handy spreadsheet of all the top clubs at U17 through U19 and which teams they were on from U9 to U16? Not just clubs, of course, but we want colors as well. McLean Green? Sterling Orange? Cugini Polkadots?

And it's easy to find out the former clubs of players on the top age group clubs