Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

I really think Harry wanted out of being a senior member of the Royal Family with all of the tedium and hard work that is required, and he married an American in order to create an escape hatch.

I think this is even more complex than the reality.. which is that as a young bachelor, it made sense to some degree for Harry to play the role of a senior Royal. It took some of the burden off Wills and Kate while they bred their heir and spare. Now, as a husband and father who is not in line for succession, it makes sense that he should turn his focus to his family and his own life.

They never said they wanted to cut ties - they merely said they wanted to step back from the position of royals, which is a life constantly on duty. They chose not to give Archie a title, but Anne, the Queen’s daughter, chose not to give her children titles. They are still Royals. Just not in the same capacity.

Except Anne's kids shut up and do their jobs. They don't cry and whine about no one asking if they are "ok". Did you ask Zara if she was "OK" after she had her kids?

Well no one called Zara's kid a chimpanzee. Nobody in their right mind would put up with this sort of abuse aimed at the children. Its sickening.

What abuse? One dude who got fired?

And what children? There's only one baby.

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It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

They couldn’t be bothered.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

He was told grandpa might be passing away and refused to return, even solo.

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The RF family still holds the purse strings, and made Harry agree to get approval for any branding. I think the Crown will just wage a long war of attrition against H and M, drawing out the “transition” process so long that most people will have mostly forgotten about them by the time they are truly disentangled from the RF. Canadian limbo basically.

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H&M might want to consider how other former royals (or their court) actually live elsewhere, post reign or close to it. The relatives of the Romanovs come to mind. Some did ok, some not so much. Yes, I know we are now a few generations out.

One is either financially independent or one isn't. With her money from Suits and his inheritance from Diana, there is no need to work towards financial independence, although yes, they could enlarge the size of the pool, or may need to keep up with the celebs.

Working to be financially independent is an awkward phrase. They might have to downsize their expectations of what that looks and feels like on a day to day level.

If a release from royal duties is what they really wanted there are a number of places in the UK that would have afforded them that. Then only two sets of taxes vs. three sets.

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"After many months of reflection and internal discussions...."

Not many months of internal discussion with those impacted by the decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Now they just look like grifters.

Maybe to you. To me and a lot of other people (see the majority positive international coverage) they look smart: they are protecting their child, setting up a way to independent wealth, and getting themselves away from a toxic family. Seems brilliant.

Yes... they are going to make a fortune (or try to make a fortune) by being grifters.... because that's what it is. Manipulating rich people to make yourself rich through huge speaking fees when you say nothing of particular merit. At least other famous speakers have illustrious careers (former presidents, for example).

I'm all for people making a fortune but let's not pretend this is a morally better way of doing it, especially as the at the same time want to be spokesmen for oppression and environmental causes and all that at the same time. Errr? Am I missing something here? Why not donate your fat speaking fees to save the environment rather than paying for your private jet, eh?

Like I said earlier, I'd have total respect and completely support them if their plan was to retreat to a quiet life somewhere. Live an environmentally sustainable lifestyle on a farm in western Canada. Maybe pop back to the UK a few times a year for ceremonies but otherwise live very privately with just their children and close friends. That would meet their need for privacy and to have their own life. But that's not what's happening, is it? They want to be a different kind of royal: celebrities. Which means they'll still be in the nasty public eye, full media attention, press following them everywhere, jetting around the world on high carbon private jets to lecture about saving the environment, hanging out on the red carpet with the Clooneys and other celebs.

Shrugs.

There are many ways to live a sustainable lifestyle that don’t require you to live on a farm. If that is the only way to do it then we are truly effed. They need security. Harry has previously had his life threatened and been a target of kidnapping while he was in the military. Plus if they are as reviled as you say they are in the UK then they are also at risk. So either they can have their costs paid by Charles or they can work. But you seem to be against either.

Rather telling you ignored the hypocrisies involved here.

Living in a big mansion and jetting around in a private jet all the time = hypocrite, not environmentalist. Making a fortune through speaking fees and grifting from your new foundation, while telling people how to be better environmentalists while simultaneously not following it yourself = hypocrite.

That was a big part of the criticism laid against Harry and Meghan over the past year or so.

Actions speak louder than words. And unfortunately their actions to date aren't encouraging. What they proclaim they want to do does not match up with the realities of being a proper environmentalist or a proper social reformer. Saying you're retreating from the royal life to live the quiet life a la Greta Garbo is utterly honorable and understandable. Leaving the royal life to be another shallow rich celeb with double standards is not.

Are you the poster that thinks they should go live on a farm and raise animals?

It'd be far less controversial if they did. And understandable. But they want to go off to make money by being hypocrites. And that is the point you seem to have trouble grasping. Making millions telling people to save the environment while flying around in private jets at the same time. Ok. Go for it!

Sweetie, I asked a simple question. Are you the poster upthread that said they would respect them more if they moved onto a farm and raised animals? Yes or no?

I'm not going to play your game because it's more telling you're obsessed with this in order to refuse having to acknowledge the simple hypocrisy of the situation surrounding Meghan and Will. They want to run off to be Hollywood jet setters and make a fortune from fat speaking fees to enrich their lifestyle instead of donating it to their causes, the same causes they'll be lecturing people on. Like environmentalism, while flying around in private jets . And they will still have the press hordes chasing after them.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it. That's why the comment about having more respect if they were genuinely planning a private life in the country somewhere existed.

Np. Pp you mean Harry. Not Will. Correct?

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Why is the Sussex name worth all these purported millions? What have these two really accomplished?

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Anonymous wrote:"After many months of reflection and internal discussions...."

Not many months of internal discussion with those impacted by the decision.

As always, I’m sure they were referring only to themselves

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the Sussex name worth all these purported millions? What have these two really accomplished?

It’s not the ‘Sussex’ that is valuable, it is the ‘Royal’ that holds the weight.

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When the Queen relented and let Wills marry a non-royal ...that was when the floodgates opened. So, she couldn't say "no" to Harry and now they all have hell to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

They couldn’t be bothered.

Funny how when Kate and William spent their baby’s first Christmas away from the queen, you thought it was sweet...

When Meghan and Harry do it, you throw a fit.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really sad that Harry and Meghan didn’t join the Queen and Prince Phillip for Christmas at Sandringham. With his failing health, it might be his last Christmas with the family. Fortunately, Kate and William showed up with the grandchildren.

They couldn’t be bothered.

Funny how when Kate and William spent their baby’s first Christmas away from the queen, you thought it was sweet...

When Meghan and Harry do it, you throw a fit.

Prince Phillip was younger then.