Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those wondering Ryan McElveen's letter attacking FCPS investigation has over 400+ likes as of now on Twitter, while poor Meren's defending the investigation on Facebook has ZERO likes.

So her view is thank you for showing us how to spot schools that violate governing rules, Hayfield, and for that you get a pass. We will now turn all our attention to *every* other schools. Carry-on, Hayfield!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering Ryan McElveen's letter attacking FCPS investigation has over 400+ likes as of now on Twitter, while poor Meren's defending the investigation on Facebook has ZERO likes.

Meren is the one who refused to open schools, while hiring a private teacher for a "pod" for her own kids, and letting her children play travel sports for socialization. That Meren?

The very same!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering Ryan McElveen's letter attacking FCPS investigation has over 400+ likes as of now on Twitter, while poor Meren's defending the investigation on Facebook has ZERO likes.

So her view is thank you for showing us how to spot schools that violate governing rules, Hayfield, and for that you get a pass. We will now turn all our attention to *every* other schools. Carry-on, Hayfield!

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I cannot wrap my head about this being someone's honest perspective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering Ryan McElveen's letter attacking FCPS investigation has over 400+ likes as of now on Twitter, while poor Meren's defending the investigation on Facebook has ZERO likes.

So her view is thank you for showing us how to spot schools that violate governing rules, Hayfield, and for that you get a pass. We will now turn all our attention to *every* other schools. Carry-on, Hayfield!

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I cannot wrap my head about this being someone's honest perspective.

And yet, zero accountability or responsibility being put on Hayfield by Reid (or Board to date) and just rhetoric about how to make all the schools and every other school in FCPS to not have this issue. Okay, but to use phrase of the one brave HS coach quoted in Times article, the Hayfield building is still burning and no one doing anything about it. Walk on by, it will burn out seems the plan.

[Anonymous]

Another good sign for Hayfield/FCPS. Not allowing any Hayfield staff to comment on what’s going on. I mean, if I was not guilty of something and was trying to be transparent as a school superintendent, then I would of course make sure that any media request for speaking to the Principal or DSA be denied!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another good sign for Hayfield/FCPS. Not allowing any Hayfield staff to comment on what’s going on. I mean, if I was not guilty of something and was trying to be transparent as a school superintendent, then I would of course make sure that any media request for speaking to the Principal or DSA be denied!

And media has been denied to Hayfield for a while and then FCPS called police on reporters standing OUTSIDE Gatehouse only to have the police come to educate FCPs security that their presence was completely fine. All signs of no issues/no problems.

Guessing ever coach is on a speak and be fired notice as well- FCPS “lawyer” will have told them that’s “because of litigation,” but FCPS is not being sued. The lawyer is representing parents. He forgets again who his client is. Coaches can say anything truthful.

[Anonymous]

Many folks have screen recordings. Most people who know high school sports know the proselytizing definition by heart, because they sit through a 4-hour VHSL test to prove they could define it and won’t do it. Thats what makes this whole things so absurd.

Soon as the video came out with the OTF supporters explaining they moved to Hayfield for Overton’s great coaching- *screen records* case closed, slam dunk.

Telling on yourself, under zero pressure, is insanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question: Why would Reid cover the truth up if there was evidence that Hayfield cheated? How does she and FCPS benefit? They investigated and found no evidence. Did they not look hard enough? Or is she right that this is all just about malicious rumors?

She keeps conflating the two issues at play here. FCPS investigated "eligibility" (e.g. were kids living where they said they were etc.). They cleared entire program stating that all 15-30 (or however many) transfers met FCPS eligibility guidelines. Unclear how exhaustive that investigation was and many people have pointed out its flaws but let's stipulate.

VHSL's ban was for an ENTIRELY different reason - recruiting (or "proselytizing" as it's unhelpfully called in their rules) - i.e., that Hayfield coaches/administrations inappropriately approached players about transferring to Hayfield district. It was this blatant breaking of VHSL rules that resulted in post-season ban. VHSL just tripped up on its own process (it was supposed to enact original punishment by committee vote versus individual decision) - which is typical jurisprudence nonsense these days resulted in injunction until Dec 4th.

Why Reid cannot just say this is beyond me. i.e., we looked into one thing, cleared them and VHSL not disputing. VHSL looked into something else and found violations. She seems to be saying we looked into our thing and so everything else should be disregarded and tripling down on bad behavior and injustice for 180,000 - 2000 students.

Now in reading that rule they allegedly broke, is there tangible proof that any coach or administrator said hey come here, this is where I’m going. If they can’t prove that then it’s for nothing. I’m sure as any coach does he holds a mtg to announce his intent to leave the program. I read about it in the newspaper and saw it on tv (5). So it’s not like he really had to say anything, it was ALL said for him via the press.

Now my next qus this, what is the so called “spirit of the game” rule. It screams participation trophies for everyone. Spirit of the game means no need to keep score track wins and losses hire and fire coaches. In life there are winners and losers, just how it is. Without all the sarcastic responses could someone from either side of the argument give me insight, or basically their opinion how they see it.

The now private YouTube video by LadyBroadcaster had proof of parents talking about being recruited. And a fire alarm chirping of course.

YouTube.com/watch?v=jMO9WL7xlj4

https://www.instagram.com/ladybroadcaster/p/C8ntxdERlzh/

^^^VHSL’s smoking gun that is now marked private^^^

[Anonymous]

What's crazy is they staged that whole fake "interview" with the Overton Groupie/"Reporter" to try and refute claims that the kids weren't living in the district. So they made the video to try and dispute one violation and in doing so, gave all the proof anyone needs of the second violation. WHOOPS.

It makes you wonder how little anyone in PWC must care about following the rules if he got away with this for so long at Freedom that the families didn't even realize what they were doing.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone asked Lady Money why her public video is now suddenly private?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering Ryan McElveen's letter attacking FCPS investigation has over 400+ likes as of now on Twitter, while poor Meren's defending the investigation on Facebook has ZERO likes.

So her view is thank you for showing us how to spot schools that violate governing rules, Hayfield, and for that you get a pass. We will now turn all our attention to *every* other schools. Carry-on, Hayfield!

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I cannot wrap my head about this being someone's honest perspective.

Yet people in Vienna like her for some reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another good sign for Hayfield/FCPS. Not allowing any Hayfield staff to comment on what’s going on. I mean, if I was not guilty of something and was trying to be transparent as a school superintendent, then I would of course make sure that any media request for speaking to the Principal or DSA be denied!

I hope someone who works at Hayfield spills the beans. They'll probably have 40 open teaching positions there next year.

[Anonymous]

So the people who are meant to check where a student lives calls the stand in parent/student to tell them when they will come and visit to check they definitely live there?
Using this same logic - can parents who’s children are redistricted out of their current school do the same?

[Anonymous]

It is funny that the top two threads on FCPS DCUM are about Hayfield and boundary reassessment, but the Hayfield situation shows that FCPS does practically nothing to enforce boundaries in the first place. The Hayfield "investigation" was triggered by social media posts associated with massive sports migration, but I can only assume that many individual students are attending schools outside of their boundaries with no investigation at all.

If FCPS doesn't know how many students actually live in a given school boundary, and won't enforce the boundaries anyway, what is the point of spending so much time and money on redrawing the boundaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the people who are meant to check where a student lives calls the stand in parent/student to tell them when they will come and visit to check they definitely live there?
Using this same logic - can parents who’s children are redistricted out of their current school do the same?

I wonder about this too. Residency checks came up at an STAC meeting earlier in the school year and Reid promised to "look into it". Most likely, the optics would be terrible if they actually started cracking down on kids who don't live in boundary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the people who are meant to check where a student lives calls the stand in parent/student to tell them when they will come and visit to check they definitely live there?
Using this same logic - can parents who’s children are redistricted out of their current school do the same?

I wonder about this too. Residency checks came up at an STAC meeting earlier in the school year and Reid promised to "look into it". Most likely, the optics would be terrible if they actually started cracking down on kids who don't live in boundary.

What's an STAC meeting?