Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:They probably weren't aware of her health problems and hadn't intended to kill her. She may have died after falling and hitting her head during a struggle (blood) or from DKA. But she's not alive. No genuine ransom notes because there is no living hostage. And they don't want to risk getting caught at this point, since it's now a murder charge. Poor woman, and her poor family.

The stupidity of not realizing that an 84 year old would be medically fragile. What an unnecessary death.

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Anonymous wrote:According to an excerpt from Guthrie's 2024 book in childhood, they used to play a pretend kidnapping game, and the mother would play along. I do not know anyone who pretended to be kidnapped for pretend play, do you? That childhood story does not age well.

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-memoir-childhood-kidnappings-nancy-missing

From the article:

“About once a year, in the summertime, Cousin Teri orchestrated a ‘kidnapping’ of my sister and me,” Savannah wrote.

She then went on to explain how the situation would play out, adding “The cousins would visit for a few days at our house in Tucson, and then, on the morning they were to leave, Teri would wake us up early, shushing us in the predawn darkness as we made our escape. We would all pile into her rickety station wagon and head north.”

Savannah recalled calling her mother from a pay phone during one of the so called “kidnappings,” writing, “Mom! Cousin Teri kidnapped us to take us to her house!” She said her mother would pretend to be shocked before promising to drive up and get them a few days later.

Ok yes. This seems very odd, especially considering the current situation. But honestly, this was pretty typical Gen X behavior. We did weird stuff like that. I once lodged a knife in my armpit and put ketchup around it to scare my brother. I thought I was being funny. We would pretend to run away from home and spend the afternoon in the alley behind our house acting like we were on the lam and just hanging on by a thread. There was a popular, cute little family movie called Savannah Smiles (ironic) about a little girl who ran away and was held hostage by two convicts.

Idk, it was just a different time.

I am Gen X and grew up in Tucson. It was super common to “kidnap” someone for their birthday or other special occasion. You showed up super early to their house, dragged them out of bed in their Jammies with bed head and took them to the Village Inn for waffles. If you didn’t get kidnapped ever, it was super depressing because it meant your friends didn’t love you enough. Or sometimes you’d go for a morning picnic in the wash — but village inn was more common. And you’d steal the table topper (those plastic things that advertised the desserts) as a momento.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I am Gen x and grew up in the East Coast and where I lived this was definitely NOT a thing. The only time "kidnapping" came up was when we were told not to accept candy from men in white vans. It definitely was not part of our pretend play as young kids, and not a part of teen fun. This definitely adds perspective, because I found it quite strange before you mentioned how common it is.

Gen X grew up in Chicago and this was a thing for teams. New members would be "kidnapped" out of bed and dressed up in silly outfits to wear to school. It's just a prank and the parents are in on it like surprising someone for their birthday with a party.

Elder millennial from Miami. My high school dance team did this for new members after tryouts.

Guys we do not care. This has nothing to do with Nancy Guthrie at all.

Redirect that to the many people in this thread went down a weird rabbit hole about how Savannah shared that they did this as a childhood game, and how somehow that was 1) weird and 2) connected to this case. It's absolutely not a weird or unusual childhood/teen game, and it's very obviously unrelated to the crime.

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Anonymous wrote:According to an excerpt from Guthrie's 2024 book in childhood, they used to play a pretend kidnapping game, and the mother would play along. I do not know anyone who pretended to be kidnapped for pretend play, do you? That childhood story does not age well.

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-memoir-childhood-kidnappings-nancy-missing

From the article:

“About once a year, in the summertime, Cousin Teri orchestrated a ‘kidnapping’ of my sister and me,” Savannah wrote.

She then went on to explain how the situation would play out, adding “The cousins would visit for a few days at our house in Tucson, and then, on the morning they were to leave, Teri would wake us up early, shushing us in the predawn darkness as we made our escape. We would all pile into her rickety station wagon and head north.”

Savannah recalled calling her mother from a pay phone during one of the so called “kidnappings,” writing, “Mom! Cousin Teri kidnapped us to take us to her house!” She said her mother would pretend to be shocked before promising to drive up and get them a few days later.

Ok yes. This seems very odd, especially considering the current situation. But honestly, this was pretty typical Gen X behavior. We did weird stuff like that. I once lodged a knife in my armpit and put ketchup around it to scare my brother. I thought I was being funny. We would pretend to run away from home and spend the afternoon in the alley behind our house acting like we were on the lam and just hanging on by a thread. There was a popular, cute little family movie called Savannah Smiles (ironic) about a little girl who ran away and was held hostage by two convicts.

Idk, it was just a different time.

I am Gen X and grew up in Tucson. It was super common to “kidnap” someone for their birthday or other special occasion. You showed up super early to their house, dragged them out of bed in their Jammies with bed head and took them to the Village Inn for waffles. If you didn’t get kidnapped ever, it was super depressing because it meant your friends didn’t love you enough. Or sometimes you’d go for a morning picnic in the wash — but village inn was more common. And you’d steal the table topper (those plastic things that advertised the desserts) as a momento.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I am Gen x and grew up in the East Coast and where I lived this was definitely NOT a thing. The only time "kidnapping" came up was when we were told not to accept candy from men in white vans. It definitely was not part of our pretend play as young kids, and not a part of teen fun. This definitely adds perspective, because I found it quite strange before you mentioned how common it is.

Gen X grew up in Chicago and this was a thing for teams. New members would be "kidnapped" out of bed and dressed up in silly outfits to wear to school. It's just a prank and the parents are in on it like surprising someone for their birthday with a party.

Elder millennial from Miami. My high school dance team did this for new members after tryouts.

Guys we do not care. This has nothing to do with Nancy Guthrie at all.

Redirect that to the many people in this thread went down a weird rabbit hole about how Savannah shared that they did this as a childhood game, and how somehow that was 1) weird and 2) connected to this case. It's absolutely not a weird or unusual childhood/teen game, and it's very obviously unrelated to the crime.

Are you kidding me? That is not a normal thing to do, to call your parents and pretend you've been kidnapped. it's a weird as shit family tradition. "somehow weird"? "Connected to this case" that is a kidnapping case? Are you kidding me?

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I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

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Anonymous wrote:According to an excerpt from Guthrie's 2024 book in childhood, they used to play a pretend kidnapping game, and the mother would play along. I do not know anyone who pretended to be kidnapped for pretend play, do you? That childhood story does not age well.

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-memoir-childhood-kidnappings-nancy-missing

From the article:

“About once a year, in the summertime, Cousin Teri orchestrated a ‘kidnapping’ of my sister and me,” Savannah wrote.

She then went on to explain how the situation would play out, adding “The cousins would visit for a few days at our house in Tucson, and then, on the morning they were to leave, Teri would wake us up early, shushing us in the predawn darkness as we made our escape. We would all pile into her rickety station wagon and head north.”

Savannah recalled calling her mother from a pay phone during one of the so called “kidnappings,” writing, “Mom! Cousin Teri kidnapped us to take us to her house!” She said her mother would pretend to be shocked before promising to drive up and get them a few days later.

Ok yes. This seems very odd, especially considering the current situation. But honestly, this was pretty typical Gen X behavior. We did weird stuff like that. I once lodged a knife in my armpit and put ketchup around it to scare my brother. I thought I was being funny. We would pretend to run away from home and spend the afternoon in the alley behind our house acting like we were on the lam and just hanging on by a thread. There was a popular, cute little family movie called Savannah Smiles (ironic) about a little girl who ran away and was held hostage by two convicts.

Idk, it was just a different time.

I am Gen X and grew up in Tucson. It was super common to “kidnap” someone for their birthday or other special occasion. You showed up super early to their house, dragged them out of bed in their Jammies with bed head and took them to the Village Inn for waffles. If you didn’t get kidnapped ever, it was super depressing because it meant your friends didn’t love you enough. Or sometimes you’d go for a morning picnic in the wash — but village inn was more common. And you’d steal the table topper (those plastic things that advertised the desserts) as a momento.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I am Gen x and grew up in the East Coast and where I lived this was definitely NOT a thing. The only time "kidnapping" came up was when we were told not to accept candy from men in white vans. It definitely was not part of our pretend play as young kids, and not a part of teen fun. This definitely adds perspective, because I found it quite strange before you mentioned how common it is.

Gen X grew up in Chicago and this was a thing for teams. New members would be "kidnapped" out of bed and dressed up in silly outfits to wear to school. It's just a prank and the parents are in on it like surprising someone for their birthday with a party.

Elder millennial from Miami. My high school dance team did this for new members after tryouts.

Guys we do not care. This has nothing to do with Nancy Guthrie at all.

Redirect that to the many people in this thread went down a weird rabbit hole about how Savannah shared that they did this as a childhood game, and how somehow that was 1) weird and 2) connected to this case. It's absolutely not a weird or unusual childhood/teen game, and it's very obviously unrelated to the crime.

Are you kidding me? That is not a normal thing to do, to call your parents and pretend you've been kidnapped. it's a weird as shit family tradition. "somehow weird"? "Connected to this case" that is a kidnapping case? Are you kidding me?

Do you also think that Prince predicted his death because he wrote a song that mentions an elevator?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

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Anonymous wrote:According to an excerpt from Guthrie's 2024 book in childhood, they used to play a pretend kidnapping game, and the mother would play along. I do not know anyone who pretended to be kidnapped for pretend play, do you? That childhood story does not age well.

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-memoir-childhood-kidnappings-nancy-missing

From the article:

“About once a year, in the summertime, Cousin Teri orchestrated a ‘kidnapping’ of my sister and me,” Savannah wrote.

She then went on to explain how the situation would play out, adding “The cousins would visit for a few days at our house in Tucson, and then, on the morning they were to leave, Teri would wake us up early, shushing us in the predawn darkness as we made our escape. We would all pile into her rickety station wagon and head north.”

Savannah recalled calling her mother from a pay phone during one of the so called “kidnappings,” writing, “Mom! Cousin Teri kidnapped us to take us to her house!” She said her mother would pretend to be shocked before promising to drive up and get them a few days later.

Ok yes. This seems very odd, especially considering the current situation. But honestly, this was pretty typical Gen X behavior. We did weird stuff like that. I once lodged a knife in my armpit and put ketchup around it to scare my brother. I thought I was being funny. We would pretend to run away from home and spend the afternoon in the alley behind our house acting like we were on the lam and just hanging on by a thread. There was a popular, cute little family movie called Savannah Smiles (ironic) about a little girl who ran away and was held hostage by two convicts.

Idk, it was just a different time.

I am Gen X and grew up in Tucson. It was super common to “kidnap” someone for their birthday or other special occasion. You showed up super early to their house, dragged them out of bed in their Jammies with bed head and took them to the Village Inn for waffles. If you didn’t get kidnapped ever, it was super depressing because it meant your friends didn’t love you enough. Or sometimes you’d go for a morning picnic in the wash — but village inn was more common. And you’d steal the table topper (those plastic things that advertised the desserts) as a momento.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I am Gen x and grew up in the East Coast and where I lived this was definitely NOT a thing. The only time "kidnapping" came up was when we were told not to accept candy from men in white vans. It definitely was not part of our pretend play as young kids, and not a part of teen fun. This definitely adds perspective, because I found it quite strange before you mentioned how common it is.

Gen X grew up in Chicago and this was a thing for teams. New members would be "kidnapped" out of bed and dressed up in silly outfits to wear to school. It's just a prank and the parents are in on it like surprising someone for their birthday with a party.

Elder millennial from Miami. My high school dance team did this for new members after tryouts.

Guys we do not care. This has nothing to do with Nancy Guthrie at all.

Redirect that to the many people in this thread went down a weird rabbit hole about how Savannah shared that they did this as a childhood game, and how somehow that was 1) weird and 2) connected to this case. It's absolutely not a weird or unusual childhood/teen game, and it's very obviously unrelated to the crime.

Are you kidding me? That is not a normal thing to do, to call your parents and pretend you've been kidnapped. it's a weird as shit family tradition. "somehow weird"? "Connected to this case" that is a kidnapping case? Are you kidding me?

Do you also think that Prince predicted his death because he wrote a song that mentions an elevator?

The PP said it was perfectly normal. No it is not perfectly normal. It is bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

Oh hun.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

Oh hun.

Yes? Do you know any men? Any that would point a gun at their dick? I didn't think so. Most of them are protective of their penis.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

Oh hun.

Yes? Do you know any men? Any that would point a gun at their dick? I didn't think so. Most of them are protective of their penis.

You have a strange obsession with this.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

The gun has a safety mechanism. It isn’t going to go off if he bends to tie his shoe or something. Yes, there are men that hide guns in the waistband (sometimes the rear area and they reach the weapon or the penis area). The whole point of concealed carry so you can carry it out and surprise the assailant. A holster on the side showcasing a gun is open carry

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

The gun has a safety mechanism. It isn’t going to go off if he bends to tie his shoe or something. Yes, there are men that hide guns in the waistband (sometimes the rear area and they reach the weapon or the penis area). The whole point of concealed carry so you can carry it out and surprise the assailant. A holster on the side showcasing a gun is open carry

Yes, a gun stuck in the waistband from behind makes sense. On the side makes sense. DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HIS PENIS? No. Also, like I said, this person leans down a couple of times with a gun right in front of his so-called dick. How would that even work?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

Oh hun.

Yes? Do you know any men? Any that would point a gun at their dick? I didn't think so. Most of them are protective of their penis.

You have a strange obsession with this.

I agree - I don't know a guy that would carry a gun like that. Very strange.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been on this thread in a while but I would like someone to address the gun holster being right in front of where a penis would be if the person on the security footage were a man. I think that is bizarre. No man would have a gun that close to his d***, not to mention being able to walk and bend down with a gun right there. This is a woman.

Men, please chime in on this one particular aspect of the security footage.

Many security professions have chimed in on news programs saying 1 - its a man and 2- this shows its an amature 3- the holster is VERY cheap, not what a normal gun owner would carry around.

I'm saying, very specifically, that no man I know would have a gun pointing anywhere near his penis and that having a gun right there, directly in front of a penis like a sports cup, would make it difficult to walk and to bend down, which that person did.

i'm asking for MEN -- with penises -- to chime in.

Oh hun.

Yes? Do you know any men? Any that would point a gun at their dick? I didn't think so. Most of them are protective of their penis.

You have a strange obsession with this.

I agree - I don't know a guy that would carry a gun like that. Very strange.

No, you're very strange. What theory are you trying to prove here? Make a case or move on.