FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:WTF do “FCPS Pride” and the “Neurodivergent liberation coalition” have to do with boundaries? So crazy. Why is FCPS like this ….

There are more lbgtq families and neurodivergent in certain areas and they want to make sure they are not segregated into one or two pyramids when this is all said and done?

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Anonymous wrote:Committee members are up!

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee

Anyone see anything particularly interesting?

BOTH of the picks from WSHS are from Hunt Valley

Haha. I bet they are.

As a HVES parent I would like to personally thank the fake news article that lit a fire within our community.

Hopefully, some other WSHS parents will catch on and stop the process. It can’t possibly be fair when 2 people from the same school will push the rest of us out.

I don't know - I would hope they'd advocate for no one to have to leave WSHS.

Nope. Those HVES moms will push to save themselves, but push out WSES.

But neither of those moves makes sense when they could take the Keene Mill attendance island and give the whole thing to White Oaks/Lake Braddock. Some of the island already goes KM-LBSS anyway! It’s a much less disruptive move even if there is some cascading on LB’s other elementary schools. (And I’m not firmly convinced anyone needs to be moved out of WSHS - I don’t have kids there or in the WS pyramid, but my friends who do say the school doesn’t feel overcrowded due to the renovations.)

They are not overcrowded.

The 200 kids over capacity basically means around 1 extra kid per classroom. The halls are spacious and not packed. There are no weird lunch shifts. The school has no trailers.

The 8th grade Irving class is smaller than the class of 2025 they are replacing.

The 7th grade Irving class is MUCH smaller than the class of 2026 they are replacing by over 100 students smaller.

WSHS is fine without rezoning.

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Anonymous wrote:WTF do “FCPS Pride” and the “Neurodivergent liberation coalition” have to do with boundaries? So crazy. Why is FCPS like this ….

There are more lbgtq families and neurodivergent in certain areas and they want to make sure they are not segregated into one or two pyramids when this is all said and done?

Since when do all the gay ADHD kids live in one place? That sounds like an amazing community btw...sign me up.

It's theater, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:So, special ed, NAACP, Title I, LGBT, Neurodivergent, Hispanic, Asian, Black educators, etc

Notice any group that is not represented?

The two dozen other groups off the list that you didn’t bother to mention?

DP. Don’t be pedantic, you understand the posters point I’m sure.

DP, no I don’t. Spell it out for me, please.

Pretty obvious: the average kid is not represented. The non-minority kid is not represented.

If you are referring to race, it is more correct to say that not all of the racial minorities are represented. White children are 36%, not represented. Native Americans, Native Hawaiians, and multiracial families are also not on the list. To be fair, however, I don't think there is a White, Native American, multi-racial or Native Hawaiian interest group in the county to consult.

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Anonymous wrote:WTF do “FCPS Pride” and the “Neurodivergent liberation coalition” have to do with boundaries? So crazy. Why is FCPS like this ….

There are more lbgtq families and neurodivergent in certain areas and they want to make sure they are not segregated into one or two pyramids when this is all said and done?

That is not even real.

There are tons those kids at every single school at the county and in the case of rezoning, their needs are no more specialized than any of student in the county.

In fact, the class president team captain Ms popular rising juniors are likely to be far more negatively impacted by rezoning than anyone else as their entire college plan will be blown to shreds by no gransfathering rezoning.

Perhaps FCPS should have included representatives from the sports boosters, performing arts programs and leadership/student government since many of those kids sre going to get completely screwed by rezoning sophomore and junior years.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Woodson have three reps?

I heard it was because of the overlap with City of Fairfax, which is an independent school district that takes a few neighborhoods from Woodson that are not part of City of Fairfax.

Cityy of Fairfsx kids cannot be rezoned, but several feeders into Fairfsx HS can, because they are actually Woodson neighborhoods.

But if that is the case, then split feeders should all get a rep, not just Woodson.

This makes no sense. It sounds like Woodson has three reps because there’s a total suck-up to the School Board who lives in the Woodson district and wasn’t randomly suggested. She has been pushing to change boundaries elsewhere in the county but to leave Mantua at Woodson. This process is corrupt.

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

Ummmm.... we ARE in the south lol.

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

DP. Those private schools may not be Sidwell but they are often the far superior options in those areas. It’s the remnants of the public schools in some of those Southern communities that are total hellholes.

FCPS had an opportunity to focus on academics and sound planning. It is instead pandering to the lowest common denominator now with “equity” babble and routinely insulting and ignoring those at high performing schools. Maybe they can dial it back but more likely they will just double down.

Exactly. We'll never know how good the public schools could have been in the South with integration. The areas with fewer private options have better public schools, btw.

More "we need white kids for public schools to be good" drivel.

Newsflash: if that's how you think just accept that with demographic change meaning fewer white children...

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

Ummmm.... we ARE in the south lol.

NOVA is most definitely NOT the South.

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According to this discussion, schools are considered failing when they have a high number of poor kids. And the rich people here don't want to send their kids to poor schools because they don't want their rich kids to mix with poor kids. (Poor kids statistically scoring lower on standardized testing, so it really comes down to segregation of people based on wealth.)

I can understand those who want to keep their kids at a high school so they can finish out their academics at the same school. I cannot understand those who are complaining about going to school with poor kids.

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

DP. Those private schools may not be Sidwell but they are often the far superior options in those areas. It’s the remnants of the public schools in some of those Southern communities that are total hellholes.

FCPS had an opportunity to focus on academics and sound planning. It is instead pandering to the lowest common denominator now with “equity” babble and routinely insulting and ignoring those at high performing schools. Maybe they can dial it back but more likely they will just double down.

Exactly. We'll never know how good the public schools could have been in the South with integration. The areas with fewer private options have better public schools, btw.

More "we need white kids for public schools to be good" drivel.

Newsflash: if that's how you think just accept that with demographic change meaning fewer white children...

This makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:According to this discussion, schools are considered failing when they have a high number of poor kids. And the rich people here don't want to send their kids to poor schools because they don't want their rich kids to mix with poor kids. (Poor kids statistically scoring lower on standardized testing, so it really comes down to segregation of people based on wealth.)

I can understand those who want to keep their kids at a high school so they can finish out their academics at the same school. I cannot understand those who are complaining about going to school with poor kids.

+1 The grandfathering has to happen. Why can't we all just continue our current path with changes going into effect with the class of 2040 or something?

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

Ummmm.... we ARE in the south lol.

NOVA is most definitely NOT the South.

The assertion was that integration caused a decline in public schools. Do pick up a book or, what's easier, search online about VA and Fairfax County in particular. We are in the south, and the schools were racially segregated. If desegregation caused schools to suck, why did FCPS have such a great reputation when they were forced to desegregate just like the rest of the south?

Don't be slow.

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

Ummmm.... we ARE in the south lol.

NOVA is most definitely NOT the South.

The assertion was that integration caused a decline in public schools. Do pick up a book or, what's easier, search online about VA and Fairfax County in particular. We are in the south, and the schools were racially segregated. If desegregation caused schools to suck, why did FCPS have such a great reputation when they were forced to desegregate just like the rest of the south?

Don't be slow.

I should have phrased it "even though it was forced to desegregate just like the rest of the South"

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

Ummmm.... we ARE in the south lol.

NOVA is most definitely NOT the South.

The assertion was that integration caused a decline in public schools. Do pick up a book or, what's easier, search online about VA and Fairfax County in particular. We are in the south, and the schools were racially segregated. If desegregation caused schools to suck, why did FCPS have such a great reputation when they were forced to desegregate just like the rest of the south?

Don't be slow.

Boston was forced by the courts to desegregate its schools in the 70s but it’s not in the south.

The demographics in NoVa are very different than the Deep South and by the time NoVa was more diverse courts had backed away from the types of forced bussing plans that led to the steep decline of public schools elsewhere, including further south.

Are you sure you aren’t the slow one here?