FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?
Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?
Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

On the bright side, Fairfax County has a lot residents that don't need vouchers to send their kids to private schools. I am product of public schools and never really considered sending my kids to private until now. Assuming it goes through and ends up being some social engineering experiment, we are out. It won't be the end of the world for us but it will suck for my kids because of friend groups and stuff like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?
Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

On the bright side, Fairfax County has a lot residents that don't need vouchers to send their kids to private schools. I am product of public schools and never really considered sending my kids to private until now. Assuming it goes through and ends up being some social engineering experiment, we are out. It won't be the end of the world for us but it will suck for my kids because of friend groups and stuff like that.

+1. Really funny that the equity posters have deluded themselves into thinking that there are no other options. Private schools won’t take my kids? Gtfo.

It also says a lot about their mindset. They believe we are stuck with them. Can’t wait til they start to complain about the death spiral that they directly caused.

[Anonymous]

Can’t wait til they start to complain about the death spiral that they directly caused.

the problem will be that once the "word" gets out about this "committee" and its purpose, the death spiral will begin. And, they think people will vote for a bond? And, the bond has nothing to do with this--but people will be less likely to support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

DP. The new private schools will pop up even if there aren’t vouchers. FCPS is a failing enterprise led by deeply incompetent people and nature abhors a vacuum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

DP. The new private schools will pop up even if there aren’t vouchers. FCPS is a failing enterprise led by deeply incompetent people and nature abhors a vacuum.

Where are they going to put these new private schools in NOVA? Where's the real-estate? You're complaining about FCPS facilities....do you think these new private schools are going to be palatial? Do you think they are going to offer AP courses? Can you please just go ahead and move your kids to a private so that the grown-ups can work this out? Cause if your come-back is always going to be that you're taking your ball and going home, that's not helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

DP. Those private schools may not be Sidwell but they are often the far superior options in those areas. It’s the remnants of the public schools in some of those Southern communities that are total hellholes.

FCPS had an opportunity to focus on academics and sound planning. It is instead pandering to the lowest common denominator now with “equity” babble and routinely insulting and ignoring those at high performing schools. Maybe they can dial it back but more likely they will just double down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the committee was chosen at random.

It is clear that there is an agenda--and it is not academic excellence.

I am on the committee and I was chosen at random. I have never applied for or joined anything like this before, and I only learned about it through this forum.

The person who was chosen from our neighborhood heard about it from another neighbor, who heard about it from facebook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does Woodson have three reps?

I heard it was because of the overlap with City of Fairfax, which is an independent school district that takes a few neighborhoods from Woodson that are not part of City of Fairfax.

Cityy of Fairfsx kids cannot be rezoned, but several feeders into Fairfsx HS can, because they are actually Woodson neighborhoods.

But if that is the case, then split feeders should all get a rep, not just Woodson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

I wouldn’t send my kids a school with a gang problem. I guess different priorities 🤷‍♂️

Look into the private school shift in the South in the 70's after desegregation and how horrible those schools are to this day and then get back to me.

DP. Those private schools may not be Sidwell but they are often the far superior options in those areas. It’s the remnants of the public schools in some of those Southern communities that are total hellholes.

FCPS had an opportunity to focus on academics and sound planning. It is instead pandering to the lowest common denominator now with “equity” babble and routinely insulting and ignoring those at high performing schools. Maybe they can dial it back but more likely they will just double down.

Exactly. We'll never know how good the public schools could have been in the South with integration. The areas with fewer private options have better public schools, btw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If vouchers were allowed not sure how that would impact all of this in FCPS.

There will be growth in private schools, I suspect.

I think it's hilarious that people think the private schools around here want/will accept their kids. Go ahead and take your voucher and see how far it gets you.

I believe in public schools, but if you do not understand that there will be ADDITIONAL private schools, I think you are sadly mistaken. Do you even read this forum?
Sadly, most Fairfax parents do not believe their children will be affected. If this plan goes as SB wants, more kids will be affected than parents realize. Just wait until they have two kids assigned to two different high schools.

What do they plan to do with AP/IB students when they start the shift?

Where are they going to get the additional buses needed?

I wouldn't send my kid to a new pop-up private school that exists solely to gobble up voucher dollars. Good luck with the college rat race.

DP. The new private schools will pop up even if there aren’t vouchers. FCPS is a failing enterprise led by deeply incompetent people and nature abhors a vacuum.

Where are they going to put these new private schools in NOVA? Where's the real-estate? You're complaining about FCPS facilities....do you think these new private schools are going to be palatial? Do you think they are going to offer AP courses? Can you please just go ahead and move your kids to a private so that the grown-ups can work this out? Cause if your come-back is always going to be that you're taking your ball and going home, that's not helpful.

They’ll put them in vacant office buildings and it’ll be like BASIS Independent where there aren’t any sport fields.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it appears this GIS tool is designed to play around with boundaries on a map to "capture" the right amount of non-poor kids just outside of an existing low-SES HS boundary.

The options to make this whole thing work appear to be:
1) cut over entire high SES elementary schools to adjacent low-SES pyramid
pros: only affects a concentrated localized population
cons: maximum disruption to that population
2) adjust the majority of ES boundaries across multiple pyramids to 'equitize' two adjacent high schools
pros: maintains proximity, community, transportation
cons: highest level of disruption, potentially affects all not living a stone's throw from elementary school
3) low-SES high school pyramid captures adjacent high-SES high school student population,
pros: minimizes the breadth of population disruption within donor pyramids
cons: maximizes negative impact on that population (proximity, community, transportation)

The unspoken con for each of these options is that it results in papering up the low-SES high school to mask instead of help its failing student population.

I am in the WSHS pyramid and am thinking how terrible the consequences could be for a Hunt Valley family that is told either Saratoga is their new ES, or HVES is now cutover to Lewis.

This just made it more obvious that HVES will shift to Lewis.

Didn’t HVES go to Lewis before South County opened, or at least a portion of it? I was researching the redistricting that occurred when South County was built and HV had been pushing to be included in South County. It was ultimately decided that Mason Neck would be zoned to South County instead because the kids had close to an hour long one way bus ride to get to Hayfield and South County is much closer geographically to Mason Neck. However, as a compromise to HV (either the whole school or a neighborhood- they were rezoned from Lewis to WSHS.) This situation has been created over the past 20 years by continuing to move middle class areas out of Lewis.

All of Hunt Valley was an original WSHS school since HV opened in 1969. WSHS opened in 1966 and HV 3 years later.

All of HV has always been zoned for WSHS, except for a short stint when a small portion of it off Gambrill was a split feeder to Lewis.

The split feeder was corrected in the early 2000s when South County opened.

The vast majority of Hunt Valley remained a WSHS feeder, as it always has been since it opened over 50 years ago.

Most of Hunt Valley has spent the entirety of its 55 year existence zoned for WSHS.

A small portion of Hunt Valley off Gambrill road has spent the majority of its time, more than 40 years, zoned for WSHS and a small portion as a split feeder to Lee, around 15 years.

Saratoga Mom claiming that Hunt Valley is historically a Lewis feeder is just wrong and spreading mistruths.

Those Gambrill neighborhoods weren't a small portion. Gambrill mom is nervous. Those kids didn't shift because of South County. They didn't want to go to Lee anymore because it was starting its downward trajectory with a certain demographic moving in.

You are wrong, but OK.

I am not Gambril person, btw. Just someone who will not be affected by rezoning who doesn't understand your obsession with Hunt Valley.

The Hunt Valley split feeder was closed because South County opened.

The Gambrill neighborhoods were originally zoned for WSHS.

The Gambrill neighborhoods have spent the majority of their existence zoned for WSHS.

Historically, Gambrill is a WSHS neighborhood, with a short stint at a split feeder to Lee. The split feeder was corrected when South County opened.

If you want to dredge up the past history of Hunt Valley, the past clearly shows they are a WSHS feeder since the school opened.