Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Appropriate consequences.

Good for Florida. Why do protesters think they can do things like block traffic and hijack buildings without consequences? Not very bright. Especially the LGBTQ contingent, who actually think they have friends in Gaza. Talk about clueless…

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Anonymous wrote:Deeper look at the counter-protester violence at UCLA on April 30 in the Washington Post.

But in the hours before they took action, at least 16 people were visibly injured, the majority of them pro-Palestinian, including two protesters who could be seen with blood streaking across their faces and soaking into their clothes, videos and images show. The counterprotesters ignited at least six fireworks; struck protesters at least 20 times with wooden planks, metal poles and other objects; and punched or kicked at least eight protesters.

The Post’s examination also found that faculty had raised concerns for days about harassment of pro-Palestinian activists and physical violence directed at people in the protest encampment, raising questions about whether the school should have had more police on hand to prevent an altercation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/05/11/ucla-protests-police-inaction-fights/

Protesters have been kicked, punched, hit with a car, spit on, harassed and have had racist, homophobic, or Islamophobic taunts thrown at them. It doesn't get much attention, but there has been a large amount of hate directed at the protesters around this country and at times it is violent.

And why do you think that is? Could it possibly have anything to do with protesters defending Hamas - terrorists - and shaming a democratic country - Israel - for defending itself from those terrorists?

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Anonymous wrote:Sharing another gifted Atlantic article that will probably be too long for blood libel-endorsing PPs' brainwashed zombie attention spans:

Listen to What They’re Chanting
A close look at the words being shouted at protests on campuses across the country reveals why some see the pro-Palestinian cause as so threatening.

By Judith Shulevitz


https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/05/pro-palestinian-protests-columbia-chants/678321/?gift=mg7b1AqRHrzgE279scHT_MnocJ8N2Est_Q-pcQusmqc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Also, this CNN article nailed it:

Opinion: The antisemitic lie at the heart of too many campus protests
Opinion by Frida Ghitis
9 minute read
Published 12:24 PM EDT, Tue May 7, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/07/opinions/columbia-university-israel-campus-protests-antisemitism-ghitis/index.html

But I don't expect most posters to submit to a 9-minute read... prove me wrong, guys?

I read it. Everything in it is something I've read before. It did not change my mind. We shouldn't use the word "genocide" in relation to the Palestinians. Fine. I've never used the word personally. Both sides are not acting in good faith and both sides are being failed by their leaders. I just don't believe more children should die. I don't think that makes me an anti-semite or pro-Hamas.

It does make you pro-Hamas because if Hamas is not defeated soundly the violence against both Jews and Gazan human shields will continue. Put your pressure where it belongs. "Ceasefire" doesn't actually mean peace. It means capitulation to terrorists and a license for them to continue to their program of death for anyone who stands in the way of their quest for dominance.

How do you define “soundly defeated”? How does one defeat a non-conventional military force embedded in a civilian population? Terrorist groups are like hydra, headed monsters. Cut off one head and another one will grow in its place. It is easier said than done to “defeat” them. Meanwhile, more children are dying.

People like to say that terrorist groups are hydras. That makes for vivid imagery. But it turns out, you *can* kill, demoralize, and render impotent a terrorist organization. There are many defunct terrorist organizations. They are not demons, they are people, and they need resources and human capital to survive.

Great. Please give us examples of where this has happened successfully.

Both Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been effectively destroyed. Of course there are still remnants, but they are relatively impotent and inconsequential. The same thing will happen with Hamas. The key is to kill them all, which no doubt will happen with time. No one in Syria and Iraq misses the terror inflicted by ISIS. And no one in Gaza will miss Hamas when they are gone - except some American college students apparently.

If Israel has its way, there will be no one in Gaza. They'll be dead. Every last Palestinian. That will be when Israel claims to have defeated Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you Greta Thunberg, for revealing to the world that you really are a media w___ and don't really care about climate change. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/greta-thunberg-detained-eurovision-protest-220335954.html

Greta is on the right side of history, speaking up for genocide doesn’t mean her climate protests are not valid. She can do both at the same time.

Greta should stop picking the losing side on issues. Just ride off into the sunset and be happy with your 15 minutes of fame. No longer a child so people will challenge her weak positions and ignore her screaming tantrums.

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She is a caricature, just like all the protesters.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Appropriate consequences.

Good. I'm not sure who they think they're rallying to their cause by blocking traffic. Absolutely asinine tactics (which doesn't even get into the absurdity of their message).

For 7 months, Israeli people have been blocking roads and traffic so that aid to Gaza doesn’t pass through, I am sure you had a similar reaction to their asinine tactics.

And Hamas keeps bombing the pier that the US is trying to build to bring in humanitarian supplies. No one talks about that though. Violence is okay when Hamas is doing it, we are to understand.

Exactly this. So funny that the PP has zero words of condemnation for Hamas, the terrorists who are *preventing* aide from reaching Palestinians. Hamas loves the visuals of Palestinians dying because stupid people fall for it and blame everyone BUT Hamas. Pro-Palestine protesters are nothing more than useful idiots for Hamas. That’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sharing another gifted Atlantic article that will probably be too long for blood libel-endorsing PPs' brainwashed zombie attention spans:

Listen to What They’re Chanting
A close look at the words being shouted at protests on campuses across the country reveals why some see the pro-Palestinian cause as so threatening.

By Judith Shulevitz


https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/05/pro-palestinian-protests-columbia-chants/678321/?gift=mg7b1AqRHrzgE279scHT_MnocJ8N2Est_Q-pcQusmqc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Also, this CNN article nailed it:

Opinion: The antisemitic lie at the heart of too many campus protests
Opinion by Frida Ghitis
9 minute read
Published 12:24 PM EDT, Tue May 7, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/07/opinions/columbia-university-israel-campus-protests-antisemitism-ghitis/index.html

But I don't expect most posters to submit to a 9-minute read... prove me wrong, guys?

I read it. Everything in it is something I've read before. It did not change my mind. We shouldn't use the word "genocide" in relation to the Palestinians. Fine. I've never used the word personally. Both sides are not acting in good faith and both sides are being failed by their leaders. I just don't believe more children should die. I don't think that makes me an anti-semite or pro-Hamas.

It does make you pro-Hamas because if Hamas is not defeated soundly the violence against both Jews and Gazan human shields will continue. Put your pressure where it belongs. "Ceasefire" doesn't actually mean peace. It means capitulation to terrorists and a license for them to continue to their program of death for anyone who stands in the way of their quest for dominance.

How do you define “soundly defeated”? How does one defeat a non-conventional military force embedded in a civilian population? Terrorist groups are like hydra, headed monsters. Cut off one head and another one will grow in its place. It is easier said than done to “defeat” them. Meanwhile, more children are dying.

People like to say that terrorist groups are hydras. That makes for vivid imagery. But it turns out, you *can* kill, demoralize, and render impotent a terrorist organization. There are many defunct terrorist organizations. They are not demons, they are people, and they need resources and human capital to survive.

Great. Please give us examples of where this has happened successfully.

Both Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been effectively destroyed. Of course there are still remnants, but they are relatively impotent and inconsequential. The same thing will happen with Hamas. The key is to kill them all, which no doubt will happen with time. No one in Syria and Iraq misses the terror inflicted by ISIS. And no one in Gaza will miss Hamas when they are gone - except some American college students apparently.

If Israel has its way, there will be no one in Gaza. They'll be dead. Every last Palestinian. That will be when Israel claims to have defeated Hamas.

DP. Hamas loves this. The more Palestinians dead, the better for them. Then they can continue playing the victim and garnering sympathy from empty-headed idiots. Why do you think they hide in hospitals and schools? Because using their own people as human shields is the whole point. They are the worst kind of cowards, and the pro-Palestinian protesters are simple enough to believe all the propaganda Hamas feeds them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Calling them "bigoted" is kind, IMO.
I can think of many other words for these idiots.

Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Calling them "bigoted" is kind, IMO.
I can think of many other words for these idiots.

Disgusting.

Jerry Seinfeld had every right to be there, he did a fine job with his speech. Protesters had every right to disagree with him and walkout, just because they don’t like what Seinfeld stands for doesn’t make them antisemitic or whatever. Also, he can support Israel as much as he wants, it’s a free country. Both side are good in this case.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.

U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.

Hopefully the Olympics does the right thing and immediately disqualifies any athlete who does not 100% support Israel.

Most people actually don't think about Israel. We are not actively seeking its destruction. It is in the same category as France, Thailand, Kenya, whatever...a country that exists and that is fine with me.

Okay, then certainly you support Israel’s current military operation, right?

Because if a terrorist organization managed to take over Germany and Invaded France (sound familiar?), I strongly doubt you would support the German Terrorist group. Or a well known dictator in Russia decided that half of Ukraine was actually “Stolen” from Russia despite the vast majority of the global community recognizing Ukraine as an independent nation that holds jurisdiction over the disputed area.

This is why most reasonable people consider this unfounded criticism of Israel to be so deeply anti-Semitic. Because Israel’s actions are well within the standard rights held by every nation on earth. Defending themselves against an aggressive, violent, extremist cult that has established a brutal dictatorship in their neighboring nation, a recognized terrorist organization that’s sole intention is the destruction of Israel, is perfectly fine when other Countries do it. Nobody argues that Ukraine does not have the right to protect themselves, just Israel. And there is one key difference between the actions of Israel and other defensive actions.

It’s not that Israel is being any more brutal, or that the ration of enemy civilians to combatants killed is any different. It’s that Israel is a proudly Jewish nation, the only Jewish nation in the world, while Ukraine is a Christian nation. People have always hated the idea that Jews could have leadership roles, or have a nation to call their own. The fact that Israel, despite having to fight tooth and nail for everything they have gotten, has became a bright light of western civilization in the Middle East, and one of the region’s superpowers, makes most of the world deeply angry, because to most of the world Jewish people are not supposed to have their own homeland, they are supposed to be poor, compliant wanderers to be taken advantage of by the “more civilized” aryans, Christian’s, and Muslim peoples, and to be thrown in death camps if they don’t behave. So the idea of not just an independent Jewish nation, but a strong, vibrant, and internationally recognized Jewish nation just grinds on the gears of these anti-semites. Especially an strong Jewish nation that cannot just be over run by these anti-semites’ radical Islamic pawns.

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Not to mention, Israel is the ONLY democratic country in the ME. Anyone cheering for terrorists to annihilate a democracy needs psychiatric help.

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Anonymous wrote:Calling them "bigoted" is kind, IMO.
I can think of many other words for these idiots.

Disgusting.

Jerry Seinfeld had every right to be there, he did a fine job with his speech. Protesters had every right to disagree with him and walkout, just because they don’t like what Seinfeld stands for doesn’t make them antisemitic or whatever. Also, he can support Israel as much as he wants, it’s a free country. Both side are good in this case.

Sorry - the protesters disrupting graduations across the U.S. are disgusting. And I have no problem saying so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Calling them "bigoted" is kind, IMO.
I can think of many other words for these idiots.

Disgusting.

Jerry Seinfeld had every right to be there, he did a fine job with his speech. Protesters had every right to disagree with him and walkout, just because they don’t like what Seinfeld stands for doesn’t make them antisemitic or whatever. Also, he can support Israel as much as he wants, it’s a free country. Both side are good in this case.

Don't be obtuse. Seinfeld is not a player in international affairs. He has no role whatsoever in the conflict in Gaza. Do students walk out on Oprah because of her opinions on dieting? No they do not. The Duke students walked out because Jerry Seinfeld is a Jew - not because they object to the Netanyahu government's approach to Gaza. For progressive students, Jews are the enemy. They are making that abundantly clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Sharing another gifted Atlantic article that will probably be too long for blood libel-endorsing PPs' brainwashed zombie attention spans:

Listen to What They’re Chanting
A close look at the words being shouted at protests on campuses across the country reveals why some see the pro-Palestinian cause as so threatening.

By Judith Shulevitz


https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/05/pro-palestinian-protests-columbia-chants/678321/?gift=mg7b1AqRHrzgE279scHT_MnocJ8N2Est_Q-pcQusmqc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Also, this CNN article nailed it:

Opinion: The antisemitic lie at the heart of too many campus protests
Opinion by Frida Ghitis
9 minute read
Published 12:24 PM EDT, Tue May 7, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/07/opinions/columbia-university-israel-campus-protests-antisemitism-ghitis/index.html

But I don't expect most posters to submit to a 9-minute read... prove me wrong, guys?

I read it. Everything in it is something I've read before. It did not change my mind. We shouldn't use the word "genocide" in relation to the Palestinians. Fine. I've never used the word personally. Both sides are not acting in good faith and both sides are being failed by their leaders. I just don't believe more children should die. I don't think that makes me an anti-semite or pro-Hamas.

It does make you pro-Hamas because if Hamas is not defeated soundly the violence against both Jews and Gazan human shields will continue. Put your pressure where it belongs. "Ceasefire" doesn't actually mean peace. It means capitulation to terrorists and a license for them to continue to their program of death for anyone who stands in the way of their quest for dominance.

How do you define “soundly defeated”? How does one defeat a non-conventional military force embedded in a civilian population? Terrorist groups are like hydra, headed monsters. Cut off one head and another one will grow in its place. It is easier said than done to “defeat” them. Meanwhile, more children are dying.

People like to say that terrorist groups are hydras. That makes for vivid imagery. But it turns out, you *can* kill, demoralize, and render impotent a terrorist organization. There are many defunct terrorist organizations. They are not demons, they are people, and they need resources and human capital to survive.

Great. Please give us examples of where this has happened successfully.

Here are 5 terrorist organizations that were recently delisted. To that list, you can add a bunch of inactive ones like Jaysh al Madhi, and ones that have significantly declined like the original al Qaeda (which lost market share to splinter groups with more youth appeal).

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099088398/u-s-to-remove-groups-from-foreign-terrorism-blacklist

Terrorist organizations are not super human. Companies, sports teams, clubs, etc rise, decline and fall. They are no different.

I’m pretty sure Hamas is more of a popular political party than any of those groups.

And let’s be clear: the bellicose, bigoted, and massively violent response to Hamas’s attacks on October 7 has absolutely created a generation of new recruits. Like so much of American propaganda “counter terrorism” isn’t so much about creating peace as it is about growing budgets for the police and military. And credulous civilians buy that uncritically.

Great. We'll kill all of those terror recruits as well.

By your own logic, if terror groups cannot be defeated, it makes sense to adopt their tactics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sharing another gifted Atlantic article that will probably be too long for blood libel-endorsing PPs' brainwashed zombie attention spans:

Listen to What They’re Chanting
A close look at the words being shouted at protests on campuses across the country reveals why some see the pro-Palestinian cause as so threatening.

By Judith Shulevitz


https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/05/pro-palestinian-protests-columbia-chants/678321/?gift=mg7b1AqRHrzgE279scHT_MnocJ8N2Est_Q-pcQusmqc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Also, this CNN article nailed it:

Opinion: The antisemitic lie at the heart of too many campus protests
Opinion by Frida Ghitis
9 minute read
Published 12:24 PM EDT, Tue May 7, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/07/opinions/columbia-university-israel-campus-protests-antisemitism-ghitis/index.html

But I don't expect most posters to submit to a 9-minute read... prove me wrong, guys?

I read it. Everything in it is something I've read before. It did not change my mind. We shouldn't use the word "genocide" in relation to the Palestinians. Fine. I've never used the word personally. Both sides are not acting in good faith and both sides are being failed by their leaders. I just don't believe more children should die. I don't think that makes me an anti-semite or pro-Hamas.

It does make you pro-Hamas because if Hamas is not defeated soundly the violence against both Jews and Gazan human shields will continue. Put your pressure where it belongs. "Ceasefire" doesn't actually mean peace. It means capitulation to terrorists and a license for them to continue to their program of death for anyone who stands in the way of their quest for dominance.

How do you define “soundly defeated”? How does one defeat a non-conventional military force embedded in a civilian population? Terrorist groups are like hydra, headed monsters. Cut off one head and another one will grow in its place. It is easier said than done to “defeat” them. Meanwhile, more children are dying.

People like to say that terrorist groups are hydras. That makes for vivid imagery. But it turns out, you *can* kill, demoralize, and render impotent a terrorist organization. There are many defunct terrorist organizations. They are not demons, they are people, and they need resources and human capital to survive.

Great. Please give us examples of where this has happened successfully.

Both Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been effectively destroyed. Of course there are still remnants, but they are relatively impotent and inconsequential. The same thing will happen with Hamas. The key is to kill them all, which no doubt will happen with time. No one in Syria and Iraq misses the terror inflicted by ISIS. And no one in Gaza will miss Hamas when they are gone - except some American college students apparently.

Senile boomerdom at its most delusional.

Really winning hearts and minds with the ageism

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think there will be incidents at the Olympics? I am concerned about safety for the Israeli and U.S. contingents.

U.S contingent should be fine. Israeli contingent, I don’t know… they will be safe I guess but they will be booed and shamed…. going by what happened at Eurovision.

Hopefully the Olympics does the right thing and immediately disqualifies any athlete who does not 100% support Israel.

Most people actually don't think about Israel. We are not actively seeking its destruction. It is in the same category as France, Thailand, Kenya, whatever...a country that exists and that is fine with me.

Okay, then certainly you support Israel’s current military operation, right?

Because if a terrorist organization managed to take over Germany and Invaded France (sound familiar?), I strongly doubt you would support the German Terrorist group. Or a well known dictator in Russia decided that half of Ukraine was actually “Stolen” from Russia despite the vast majority of the global community recognizing Ukraine as an independent nation that holds jurisdiction over the disputed area.

This is why most reasonable people consider this unfounded criticism of Israel to be so deeply anti-Semitic. Because Israel’s actions are well within the standard rights held by every nation on earth. Defending themselves against an aggressive, violent, extremist cult that has established a brutal dictatorship in their neighboring nation, a recognized terrorist organization that’s sole intention is the destruction of Israel, is perfectly fine when other Countries do it. Nobody argues that Ukraine does not have the right to protect themselves, just Israel. And there is one key difference between the actions of Israel and other defensive actions.

It’s not that Israel is being any more brutal, or that the ration of enemy civilians to combatants killed is any different. It’s that Israel is a proudly Jewish nation, the only Jewish nation in the world, while Ukraine is a Christian nation. People have always hated the idea that Jews could have leadership roles, or have a nation to call their own. The fact that Israel, despite having to fight tooth and nail for everything they have gotten, has became a bright light of western civilization in the Middle East, and one of the region’s superpowers, makes most of the world deeply angry, because to most of the world Jewish people are not supposed to have their own homeland, they are supposed to be poor, compliant wanderers to be taken advantage of by the “more civilized” aryans, Christian’s, and Muslim peoples, and to be thrown in death camps if they don’t behave. So the idea of not just an independent Jewish nation, but a strong, vibrant, and internationally recognized Jewish nation just grinds on the gears of these anti-semites. Especially an strong Jewish nation that cannot just be over run by these anti-semites’ radical Islamic pawns.

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Not to mention, Israel is the ONLY democratic country in the ME. Anyone cheering for terrorists to annihilate a democracy needs psychiatric help.

They are China-brained from tiktok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Calling them "bigoted" is kind, IMO.
I can think of many other words for these idiots.

Disgusting.

Jerry Seinfeld had every right to be there, he did a fine job with his speech. Protesters had every right to disagree with him and walkout, just because they don’t like what Seinfeld stands for doesn’t make them antisemitic or whatever. Also, he can support Israel as much as he wants, it’s a free country. Both side are good in this case.

Don't be obtuse. Seinfeld is not a player in international affairs. He has no role whatsoever in the conflict in Gaza. Do students walk out on Oprah because of her opinions on dieting? No they do not. The Duke students walked out because Jerry Seinfeld is a Jew - not because they object to the Netanyahu government's approach to Gaza. For progressive students, Jews are the enemy. They are making that abundantly clear.

That’s not true and you are parroting inane gibberish. No sane person has a problem with him being Jewish, they may have a problem with what his wife and him supported at UCLA. Actions have consequences, not everyone is supposed to like him or agree with him, that’s life.