Real talk: are there going to be enough teachers for summer school?

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Anonymous wrote:The only solution here that I see if for MCPS to increase the teacher's and aides summer sign on bonus so that our kids have a safe place to be for the summer and have social interaction. School is a kind of community village where mostly everyone takes parts either in taxes or uses the free public school services. Many families cannot go back to work until school has been figured out.

If the union is asking MCPS to give teachers more money I don't see why that cannot happen. ughhh!!!!

#pAYupMCPS

I thought they were broke as is.

I am so sick of MCPS. They can find money for fru fru stuff but not enough money so that we can have schools open and teachers/staff that want to come back?!!!!

If they cannot get staff they need to increase the summer money or whatever the staff is demanding. As other people have mentioned there is a teacher shortage, NOW.IS.NOT.THE.TIME. for the county to be in a fight with teachers when the rest of us need schools to be open for summer and fall.

Money was not why we didn't return. COVID was. We don't NEED schools open in person, you want them open. We need to have our kids get an education. There is nothing in the rules that says it has to be in person. Teachers did what they were told. They were told to DL. They didn't have the choice so stop blaming them.

Am I the only one who remembers teachers screaming on PAGES facebook page and her and on twitter and on the MCPTA facebook page about how they will die of COVID if schools open? I also remember teachers organizing a drive in rally protesting returning to school and causing traffic jams on Rockville pike. It was MCEA and teachers who obstructed the return to school last July and this entire year. Not MCPS.

I didn’t do any protests, but I was diagnosed with cancer and my immune system found to be in very bad shape during this past school year. And even once I had two shots, I didn’t develop immunity. I could have died if I was in person at my school because we had week after week of cases there. And most of our in person students are not vaccinated. My doctor had me placed on leave when schools reopened in person.

It sounds like the system worked for you since you went on leave. It didn't work for the thousands of 5 year olds that essentially missed kindergarten. There's so much talk about the importance of funding pre-K yet we're told missing K is totally fine and CHILDREN ARE RESILIENT? WTAF.

Did parents not send them at all or are you arguing nothing could be learned in distance learning? Who are we to judge parents’ choices?

Kindergarten does not work virtually. No amount of gaslighting is going to convince anybody of the contrary. The whole point of K is to learn social skills.

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I heard that there is a limit of 22 kids per class in ES and MS.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that there is a limit of 22 kids per class in ES and MS.

It had been 12-15, but it was recently increased to 22.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that there is a limit of 22 kids per class in ES and MS.

It had been 12-15, but it was recently increased to 22.

Cram ‘em in. Remember anything is better than virtual K. Maybe 45-60 would also work.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people walking around did not attend kindergarten? It's probably everyone over age 65 or so. I think the kiddos will be just fine.

Another "education doesn't matter" poster. Really?

I didn't write that it didn't matter but if your child's future depends on one grade in school and it's when they are 5-6 yrs old, you've got problems. Kids in my home country don't even attend school until the equivalent of first grade. School should not be the only place children get an education.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people walking around did not attend kindergarten? It's probably everyone over age 65 or so. I think the kiddos will be just fine.

Another "education doesn't matter" poster. Really?

I didn't write that it didn't matter but if your child's future depends on one grade in school and it's when they are 5-6 yrs old, you've got problems. Kids in my home country don't even attend school until the equivalent of first grade. School should not be the only place children get an education.

This. Plus DCUM only cares about when it doesn’t interfere with Disney or getting all the cousins together at a lake house. Then it totally isn’t important at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people walking around did not attend kindergarten? It's probably everyone over age 65 or so. I think the kiddos will be just fine.

Another "education doesn't matter" poster. Really?

I didn't write that it didn't matter but if your child's future depends on one grade in school and it's when they are 5-6 yrs old, you've got problems. Kids in my home country don't even attend school until the equivalent of first grade. School should not be the only place children get an education.

"I didn't say it doesn't matter, but where I come from everyone is fine without it". Please. If you are truly being honest, then please, start advocating for cutting school budgets so we don't have K at all. This idea that kids are fine, that they have lost nothing in all of this is such a disgusting failure of accountability to our children. You are not being honest. It inconvenient for you to admit that we stole a year of education from our children, that education has value, ESPECIALLY at young ages. I will NEVER forgive teacher's unions for this continued dishonestly and gaslighting.

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If a person is no worse off for having lost something, then that something doesn't have value. Kindergarten has value and those kids did not get that this year. Early childhood education has value.

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Anonymous wrote:If a person is no worse off for having lost something, then that something doesn't have value. Kindergarten has value and those kids did not get that this year. Early childhood education has value.

Then virtual K couldn’t have been worse than no K. But families chose no K so they didn’t value it.

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Anonymous wrote:If a person is no worse off for having lost something, then that something doesn't have value. Kindergarten has value and those kids did not get that this year. Early childhood education has value.

Then virtual K couldn’t have been worse than no K. But families chose no K so they didn’t value it.

Uh huh you keep telling yourself that. I hope it helps you sleep at night.

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And no, virtual K dies not have value. You are not going to convince anyone that it does. Actually, there's value in skipping virtual K, and the privilege to be able to do that. And that tells you something because taxpayers paid a heck of a lot for something that actually has negative value

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Nobody wants to hear your complaints. I hope people have seen that from this past year. If you want something different, you'll have to go get it elsewhere. Large school districts are very slow movers. Change is glacial.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow it's the 1000th time we've had this argument and it's still a stupid argument! Congratulations DCUm on your groundhog day approach to discourse

I know, right?

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Anonymous wrote:If a person is no worse off for having lost something, then that something doesn't have value. Kindergarten has value and those kids did not get that this year. Early childhood education has value.

My kid skipped K. No great loss. Really no loss at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow it's the 1000th time we've had this argument and it's still a stupid argument! Congratulations DCUm on your groundhog day approach to discourse

I know, right?

Well it seems a significant portion of posters on DCUM either insist that a year of education has no value, or that it does but kindergarteners are no worse off for having lost a year (which makes no sense, logically). That's quite a controversial position and people are going to argue it. Sorry, not sorry.