The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Dublin, Ireland they don’t seem to have a problem with the name.


In Berlin, Germany they don’t seem to have a problem with the name.


In Auckland, New Zealand they don’t seem to have a problem with the name.


Worldwide...
Amsterdam, London, Milan, Paris, Toronto...there's no "confusion" about what the term means.

It's only here in anonymous cyberspace where people love to argue for the sake of arguing cause they ain't got shit else to do that y’all bored antagonists are baffled and bothered by the name Black Lives Matter.

Funny how the entire world gets it, but whites in America don't get it. Could it be that the education that American whites receive is so substandard that they are all idiots? Or is it something else?

They have a vested interest in “not getting it” because to get it means you have to accept that you have benefited from the subjugation of other people and work to dismantle systems that benefit you as a White person. Most White people aren’t willing to see that because they don’t want to give up the privilege they have or admit how much of their life is a function of that privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

For one, that BLM doesn’t mean only black lives matters. It means Black lives matter, too and to support this movement doesn’t mean you, as a white person, are being left out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

What do you mean remade? These things are important defining events in American history and gets appropriate attention. Are you mad we talk about these things?

[Anonymous]

All those in favor of bitter anonymous cyberspace bullies dictating what the Black Lives Matter movement should be called raise your hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All races can have racist individuals and for anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem, not solution. I worked for a year in the DC government. I was the only white person there and it was made clear to me they hired me to be their diversity, never gave me any real work to do, were completely inappropriate with their insistence I do things like put up their christmas tree in the office (which I did but they complained I did it wrong - I thought I did great given it was my first Christmas tree and I don't celebrate Christmas), wouldn't give me access or any supplies (fine, I brought my own including a computer) and made all kinds of racial and other comments. My only saving grace was I had some great co-workers who tried their best to shield me from much of it. They won and I quit but I just stayed to get the work experience on my resume even though I did secretarial and cleaning most of the time for them vs. my actual skill set.

I went to work for a county. White supervisor told me she was told not to hire me or any white people as they were looking for specific race but I was the only one qualified so they hired me. It was made clear I'd never be promoted and that my race was an issue. Not sure if it was good or bad she told me but it was clear what was going on in the agency.

These things should not happen to anyone of any race but they do. Its life. You either deal with it or leave.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the immutability of the name of this movement but thanks for the two cents.
It's Black Lives Matter and it's not changing.

That's fine but then the cause is for Black people, not all so stop putting out calls for White people to fix the problem when its not our cause. Our cause would be police brutality for all races. All races are impacted it but no other races who have faced police brutality are important and they probably deserved it according to many.

This is like colonized people complaining about the colonizers, and the colonizers saying "their problems aren't mine." No, they are yours. Their problems exist because of the system whites put into place, and perpetuate everyday. It's time to recognize that system, and see how it is making black lives not matter in a system where all lives should matter, and start making the corrections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

THE DOMINANT RACIAL GROUP AKA WHITE PEOPLE DID NOT DO THOSE THINGS WILLINGLY. ALL progress in areas of race and civil rights came through PROTEST and concerted pressure- the EXACT thing BLM is doing right now. Please stop acting like these were benevolent gifts; civil rights are rights people are owed and STILL had to fight for

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

We want to see a society where everyone enjoys the same privileges, around the world. We want to see that people who are more privileged recognize that privilege, and understand the effects that privilege has for their families, and the effects the lack of privilege has on others. There is no place in the world that does that right now, which is why you are seeing protests worldwide. Enough is enough. It's time for change.

People worldwide look to America because Americans like to talk about "bringing yourself up by your bootstraps" and "if you work hard enough, you too can achieve the American dream." This is not possible in any other country in the world. However, what needs to be said is *this isn't not possible in America either.* Many black people cannot achieve the American dream because of systemic blocks that prevent them from reaching it. We need to stop pretending those blocks don't exist. We need to recognize what those blocks are, and get rid of them, so that all lives have an equal chance to achieve the American dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

We want to see a society where everyone enjoys the same privileges, around the world. We want to see that people who are more privileged recognize that privilege, and understand the effects that privilege has for their families, and the effects the lack of privilege has on others. There is no place in the world that does that right now, which is why you are seeing protests worldwide. Enough is enough. It's time for change.

People worldwide look to America because Americans like to talk about "bringing yourself up by your bootstraps" and "if you work hard enough, you too can achieve the American dream." This is not possible in any other country in the world. However, what needs to be said is *this isn't not possible in America either.* Many black people cannot achieve the American dream because of systemic blocks that prevent them from reaching it. We need to stop pretending those blocks don't exist. We need to recognize what those blocks are, and get rid of them, so that all lives have an equal chance to achieve the American dream.

*this isn't possible in America either.*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

THE DOMINANT RACIAL GROUP AKA WHITE PEOPLE DID NOT DO THOSE THINGS WILLINGLY. ALL progress in areas of race and civil rights came through PROTEST and concerted pressure- the EXACT thing BLM is doing right now. Please stop acting like these were benevolent gifts; civil rights are rights people are owed and STILL had to fight for

Again, colonizers vs colonized. Any right colonizers ever gave to those who were colonized is because they knew they couldn't beat the colonized into submission on that point. This same idea exists here. Blacks were slaves, and whites have lived in fear from the time of slaveholding. Its time to stop the fear, and just recognize that blacks are humans too, and deserve all the rights that *you already have.*

[Anonymous]

I think some people aren't even recognizing all the privileges black people *don't* have. Here's a video featuring Twitch (who some people may know from So You Think You Can Dance and Ellen) and Allison Holker that really captures it:

https://www.glamour.com/story/stephen-twitch-boss-allison-holker-boss-tiktok-video

[Anonymous]

All lives matter. Which is why there should be nothing but outrage for the way George Floyd, a fellow American, was treated by the police. The way the police is teargassing Americans who want to question the leadership about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All lives matter. Which is why there should be nothing but outrage for the way George Floyd, a fellow American, was treated by the police. The way the police is teargassing Americans who want to question the leadership about this.

So just say Black Lives Matter if you truly believe they all matter

[Anonymous]

If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

They didn't. We actually had a whole war over the right to keep human beings as chattel. Maybe you learned about it?

As for the CRM, Martin Luther King was the most hated man in America (among whites) when he was assassinated. If your understanding of American history rests on white people handing over power willingly, then you need to change your history books.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've read through 20 pages, and I have a suggestion. If all of the people who would support "All Lives Matter" get together and successfully address police brutality for "all lives" -- then black people will no longer have an issue with police brutality and BLM can disband because there will be no more work to do. Win-Win.

+1

There’s just so much ignorance in the world. Can we please stop with any example that suggests racism is a singular, individualized act? It is an incredibly deep-seeded, socialized, and pervasive element of our society that will never be “fixed” as long as *any* race claims to be color blind, but especially white people as part of the dominant racial group in America. This is bigger than any one person’s experience as an individual (or the tone deaf and entirely unproductive “examples” of white people getting shot by cops).

Can you give an example of a place in the world that is multi-racial and multi-cultural where there isn't racism? People call out America, but that is the one place in the world where we support the continuous evolution of our population into a place that is probably the most diverse in world history. The dominant racial group (and people who are alive right now) has passed Civil Rights legislation, supported a "Great Society" where trillions have been spent to try to address generational poverty, created affirmative action, gave up spots in universities and companies for POC, passed immigration reform in the 60s that has massively contributed to the "browning" of America, not only looks the other way as millions of undocumented people from around the world come here, but provides them with billions in benefits each year, and watched as the national history has been remade into a story that focuses solely on slavery and the civil rights movement, etc. If the "dominant racial group" were really so racist, would they have done any of those things willingly?

I think most people are willing to try to do the things that will make a harmonious society, but after doing all of the above, I do think many are perplexed when folks continually talk about systemic oppression. What exactly, do people expect to see?

- REALLY? So, tell me about all of this support and how it’s working?
- Tell me how well the Civil Rights legislation that was passed over 50 years ago was actually, you know, IMPLEMENTED.
- Who “gave up spots...for POC”? You say this as though these “spots” Belonged to white people - and somehow got generously sacrificed.
Hint: Black people pay taxes too. Do you know how long it took to sort of desegregate most state universities?
Is it truly impossible for you to understand that an individual black student or employee could have genuinely been superior to the random white student or employee whose “spot” was, according to you, “given up”?

- History cannot be “remade” - it can only be retold. Finally a tiny bit of balance is getting out there!
But clearly not enough - since you seem to be under the delusion that any of these small steps towards equality somehow happened “willingly”.

If you are sincere, please read more and maybe talk to some actual people of color in your struggle to formulate some accurate sense of this nation’s history.