Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash (per TMZ)

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Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

It's not similar because this pilot had more experience and could fly with instruments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

It's not similar because this pilot had more experience and could fly with instruments.

Well, I'm sure the police pilots had experience and instrument training too, yet they chose to ground their fleet that morning.

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I heard on NPR today how Kobe is a male role model for his daughter and thought it was hilarious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

It's not similar because this pilot had more experience and could fly with instruments.

Well, I'm sure the police pilots had experience and instrument training too, yet they chose to ground their fleet that morning.

Not to be disrespectful - I also don't understand how this is compared to JFK. Yes they were using the same visual cue patterns to fly the helicopter/plane rather than instruments. But JFK Jr crashed into the ocean and honestly that seems more like a beginner's mistake than side-clipping a mountain in foggy terrain.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

It's not similar because this pilot had more experience and could fly with instruments.

Well, I'm sure the police pilots had experience and instrument training too, yet they chose to ground their fleet that morning.

Not to be disrespectful - I also don't understand how this is compared to JFK. Yes they were using the same visual cue patterns to fly the helicopter/plane rather than instruments. But JFK Jr crashed into the ocean and honestly that seems more like a beginner's mistake than side-clipping a mountain in foggy terrain.

The mistake in BOTH cases was taking the trip at all, when many factors involved pointed to it being a bad idea. Both trips should have been cancelled/delayed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kobe built a park for underprivileged kids in Houston. It sounds heroic to me

If you had 600 million dollars, how many parks would you build?

There are a lot of people, with a lot of money, who do little to nothing for poor people.

which is why they still have a lot of money...


from what I heard it was cloudy and the pilot essentially flew into the side of the mountain, low clouds/fog

Yes, and both the LAPD and LA County Sheriff had all of their choppers grounded. The fog was really bad and it was folly to try and fly in it. Very similar to the JFK Jr. story, who was only trained to fly under VFR, but not IFR. However the poor visibility required IFR in the JFK Jr. case.

It's not similar because this pilot had more experience and could fly with instruments.

Well, I'm sure the police pilots had experience and instrument training too, yet they chose to ground their fleet that morning.

I doubt they are that experienced and that they fly with instruments.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of fans we’re telling personal stories about how he took time out to talk with them, and do nice gestures. When people got injured, like Durant, apparently Kobe was the first to call. He was apparently very humble off the court.

you need to learn more adjectives. being nice to someone in need does not make one humble.

You need to learn a little bit about the word ‘humble’. He didn’t just help people in need, but took time with fans, and used his platform to help lots of people. Now, if you want to discuss the fact that his DNA had an ego attached to it, ok you got me. Any NBA player to get to that league has an ego as it comes with the confidence to be great and expectations to be there.
However, as much as any NBA player, the last 20 years, he used it for some good off the court. On the court, he thought he was the best and he was, as he’d try to crush you.

again, helpful, friendly, generous and humble are different things. i don't understand why you insist that he must be humble - the work nobody ever used to describe him while he was alive.

At least make true statements. I’ve heard many people say that they couldn’t believe how down to earth he was when he was alive.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been looking at the pictures, and the video of the flight path.
Can someone way in that has experience either with the geography of this part of California, or traveling by helicopter – which is obviously different than traveling by airplane.
Why would the helicopter turn to the south, when I believe they were going somewhere north west of where the plane crash occurred.
Also curious: it seems they were instructed to fly along a highway, but then ended up crashing in the hillside. It seems very fortunate the helicopter didn’t land in the middle of the highway, or in a neighborhood.

I don't think anyone knows why. Maybe just confusion. The pilot likely had zero visibility. I live in the area and it was EXTREMELY thick fog. I was driving on the freeway in the very early hours that morning and it was quite scary.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been looking at the pictures, and the video of the flight path.
Can someone way in that has experience either with the geography of this part of California, or traveling by helicopter – which is obviously different than traveling by airplane.
Why would the helicopter turn to the south, when I believe they were going somewhere north west of where the plane crash occurred.
Also curious: it seems they were instructed to fly along a highway, but then ended up crashing in the hillside. It seems very fortunate the helicopter didn’t land in the middle of the highway, or in a neighborhood.

I don't think anyone knows why. Maybe just confusion. The pilot likely had zero visibility. I live in the area and it was EXTREMELY thick fog. I was driving on the freeway in the very early hours that morning and it was quite scary.

That is what the pilot forums are surmising. He became disoriented as to where he was. He then dropped below the cloud cover and realized he was close to terrain, tried to pull a couple moves to get away from the terrain but helicopters are not at all forgiving like aircraft and if you get at the wrong angle, there is no recovery. It looks like about 20 seconds from trying moves to crash time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of fans we’re telling personal stories about how he took time out to talk with them, and do nice gestures. When people got injured, like Durant, apparently Kobe was the first to call. He was apparently very humble off the court.

you need to learn more adjectives. being nice to someone in need does not make one humble.

You need to learn a little bit about the word ‘humble’. He didn’t just help people in need, but took time with fans, and used his platform to help lots of people. Now, if you want to discuss the fact that his DNA had an ego attached to it, ok you got me. Any NBA player to get to that league has an ego as it comes with the confidence to be great and expectations to be there.
However, as much as any NBA player, the last 20 years, he used it for some good off the court. On the court, he thought he was the best and he was, as he’d try to crush you.

again, helpful, friendly, generous and humble are different things. i don't understand why you insist that he must be humble - the work nobody ever used to describe him while he was alive.

At least make true statements. I’ve heard many people say that they couldn’t believe how down to earth he was when he was alive.

There is somebody on this thread that does not understand that you can be self confident and humble and also does not understand "leave it on the court".

[Anonymous]

Why does everyone care this much? Good (albeit less privileged) die all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone care this much? Good (albeit less privileged) die all the time.

A combo of talented and high profile pro baller, his daughter, and other parent/child combos. Tragic.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone care this much? Good (albeit less privileged) die all the time.

A combo of talented and high profile pro baller, his daughter, and other parent/child combos. Tragic.

No one knows who those 'good' people are. Everyone thinks raising their 'nuclear' family is the most important job of all.

But honestly - if you want to have a legacy, you need an impact on as many people as possible. And in this day and age - that's mostly entertainers, sport stars, and politicans.