APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

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Anonymous wrote:We will have a tough decision to make if our option school moves. I'm not throwing a tantrum either, but the county has no idea how the moves will impact the option programs.

Which school?

Either way it sounds like they didn’t pick it for the pedagogy. If a option program isn’t strong enough to survive a 2 mile move, why are we putting so many resources into it?

I’m open to the possibility that moving option schools would present a significant burden to people, but it would be helpful to know what those significant burdens actually are. I think APS is sincere in their desire to provide supports during the transition, but people need to be willing to discuss their situations.

Interesting that pp at the top of this never came back to explain. One might almost think the “dilemma” was completely made up.

From what I read on AEM, the argument is that the Latino families who live near Key rely on extended day and have no cars. They need to walk to pick up their kids from extended day. So if the bilingual program moves to the ATS site, even if their kids get bus service, they won't be able to move with it because they would not be able to get to the school after work.

I have no independent knowledge of this situation and I'm not advocating one way or the other, that's just my understanding from reading through the comments.

I am aware of that argument, I just think it’s interesting that this particular poster asserted they would face a difficult choice and yet had been unwilling to explain why their individual situation is challenging. It was a simple (and sincere) ask, and now I’m coming around to thinking that person might have been lying to advance other interests.

As for the extended day situation, doesn’t Claremont already have some set-up where kids can be bused back to their neighborhood schools for extended day because Claremont’s is full with a waiting list? If extended day services are the only barrier for some people, that seems like a pretty easy thing to fix during the transition period, whichever bus would bring non-extended day kids back to the Key neighborhood at the end of the day can add a stop at Key for kids to attend extended day there.

[Anonymous]

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

That's a different map. There's also this one, submitted by McKinley in November, that would make Drew basically 110% FRL.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone point me to the “better” map that has been shared with staff and supposedly ignored? Is it the one they posted? The one that carves out and sends both Gilliam Place AND The Berkeley, (and possibly even Columbia Hills, can’t tell without Street names) all to Drew? That one?

yes- that's the one. It moves most of Rosslyn to Long Branch, and Long Branch to Fleet- then Fleet to Drew. It ignores Pre-K and leaves ASFS and Long Branch without room for VPI classrooms.
But it does "keep Key on Key" and ensures that lots of upper middle class parents can continue to have easy commutes via metro to get to and from their kids choice school.

I’m talking about this one, which I don’t think moves Long Branch to Fleet, but does give Drew some odd carve-outs of planning units with CAFs:

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf


It still moves Key and ATS, just moves ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley.

I want to know which “better” map keeps Key where it is and moves everything else around it without affecting school demographics (negatively) and/or that doesn’t move walkers to bus riders (because the SB is never going to do that).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Is McKinley non-contiguous?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Is McKinley non-contiguous?

No, it is not. It basically keeps mckinleu’s walk zone and busses everyone else every which way around it to fill both it and Ashlawn. And IGNORES VPI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Is McKinley non-contiguous?

I believe it is, but it’s hard to tell because they did a terrible job with color differentiation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Is McKinley non-contiguous?

I believe it is, but it’s hard to tell because they did a terrible job with color differentiation.

If it’s not, then McKinley would be absurdly under capacity.

[Anonymous]

If a family lives in an affordable housing complex it will be managed by AHC or APAH and have its own after school set up. I need to dig up the data on % use of extended day. The bus per am and pm usage alone shows the argument about walkers is either non existent or very very small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone point me to the “better” map that has been shared with staff and supposedly ignored? Is it the one they posted? The one that carves out and sends both Gilliam Place AND The Berkeley, (and possibly even Columbia Hills, can’t tell without Street names) all to Drew? That one?

yes- that's the one. It moves most of Rosslyn to Long Branch, and Long Branch to Fleet- then Fleet to Drew. It ignores Pre-K and leaves ASFS and Long Branch without room for VPI classrooms.
But it does "keep Key on Key" and ensures that lots of upper middle class parents can continue to have easy commutes via metro to get to and from their kids choice school.

I’m talking about this one, which I don’t think moves Long Branch to Fleet, but does give Drew some odd carve-outs of planning units with CAFs:

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf


It still moves Key and ATS, just moves ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley.

I want to know which “better” map keeps Key where it is and moves everything else around it without affecting school demographics (negatively) and/or that doesn’t move walkers to bus riders (because the SB is never going to do that).

I'd like to see that "better" map also. If Key feels like its being ignored by the school board, then they should publicize it to the community to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone point me to the “better” map that has been shared with staff and supposedly ignored? Is it the one they posted? The one that carves out and sends both Gilliam Place AND The Berkeley, (and possibly even Columbia Hills, can’t tell without Street names) all to Drew? That one?

yes- that's the one. It moves most of Rosslyn to Long Branch, and Long Branch to Fleet- then Fleet to Drew. It ignores Pre-K and leaves ASFS and Long Branch without room for VPI classrooms.
But it does "keep Key on Key" and ensures that lots of upper middle class parents can continue to have easy commutes via metro to get to and from their kids choice school.

Very ironic considering the whining about APS not considering demographics.

Yes, ironic indeed. They made it clear that they were using the same criteria and data as APS and therefore not considering demographics. So, fine - put them both on the table and let's see which one really is better on the various criteria for a boundary decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

That's a different map. There's also this one, submitted by McKinley in November, that would make Drew basically 110% FRL.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf

Why in the world did they carve out the affordable housing complexes and send them to Drew? Gilliam Place from Fleet to Drew? WTH are these people thinking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone point me to the “better” map that has been shared with staff and supposedly ignored? Is it the one they posted? The one that carves out and sends both Gilliam Place AND The Berkeley, (and possibly even Columbia Hills, can’t tell without Street names) all to Drew? That one?

yes- that's the one. It moves most of Rosslyn to Long Branch, and Long Branch to Fleet- then Fleet to Drew. It ignores Pre-K and leaves ASFS and Long Branch without room for VPI classrooms.
But it does "keep Key on Key" and ensures that lots of upper middle class parents can continue to have easy commutes via metro to get to and from their kids choice school.

I’m talking about this one, which I don’t think moves Long Branch to Fleet, but does give Drew some odd carve-outs of planning units with CAFs:

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf


It still moves Key and ATS, just moves ATS to Nottingham instead of McKinley.

I want to know which “better” map keeps Key where it is and moves everything else around it without affecting school demographics (negatively) and/or that doesn’t move walkers to bus riders (because the SB is never going to do that).

I'd like to see that "better" map also. If Key feels like its being ignored by the school board, then they should publicize it to the community to see.

Spoiler alert - it's only "better" for Key. Everyone else gets hosed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

that's the Key map-- done by a white upper middle class Key parent who is active in the ACDC and considers herself very 'woke.' She lives in the Taylor district, but is much closer to Key than Taylor so is highly impacted by the change. Yes- she is on AEM screaming racism and lack of consideration of demographics but is extremely proud of her map that eliminates space for VPI classrooms, and screws Fleet and Drew.

Where can we find a copy of this map? Is it posted on AEM?

Can anyone share here?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

That's a different map. There's also this one, submitted by McKinley in November, that would make Drew basically 110% FRL.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Suggested-Community-Alternative-Proposal-One.pdf

Why in the world did they carve out the affordable housing complexes and send them to Drew? Gilliam Place from Fleet to Drew? WTH are these people thinking?

They are thinking they want to walk to McKinley. That's it. Nothing else matters.