Affirmative Action should be income-based, not race-based

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

You assume that white applicants are being rejected for lesser qualified minorities. Absurd!!

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OF course they are! The data all show it.

What is absurd is that you will fight to the death to maintain AA policies that favor blacks, and then deny that whites are rejected in favor of blacks.

+1.

To be precise, it is whites and Asians being rejected in favor of blacks.

Yes. And what is so irking is that these bleeding-heart liberals who proclaim to "care about people" (as long as it's the skin color they favor) call other people racist for not giving preferential treatment to blacks with lesser qualifications - and then they demean poor whites as "white trash" and say "Billy can just got to community college."

Reverse that: Can you imagine if conservatives said that black kids can just go to community college? Or called them "black trash"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you people so sure your kid would have been next on the list? At the cut line, there are hundreds of applicants who are very close in qualifications. None of them are undeserving but none of them are entitled to a spot either. There are other schools and if your kid is all you think he/she is, he/she will do well with a degree from any of them. It’s only the parents who can’t imagine life without Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Stanford.

Exactly.

Nobody ever said they were entitled. But in many cases their grades and scores would have taken them in that direction, but AA policies instead favored lower-scoring blacks. So why are black kids with lower grades ENTITLED? Any why can't the poorer-scoring black kids go to some other school? You people seem to be saying that 3rd tier universities are good enough for poor white Billy from the housing projects, even with his A- average, and yet Daeshanda should go to Ivy with her B+. Why not just turn it around: Let the better student go to the better school, and the so-so student go to the lesser university?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This anti-white bias from liberals will cost you the election.

Is BLM why you voted for Trump?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not.

Poor white people, poor white trash as we call them in my house growing up, still have all the advantages of being white.

It's nonsense to pretend otherwise.

Gets no such thing as white privilege. Great idea op.
How many posts did it take for someone to call you a racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

You assume that white applicants are being rejected for lesser qualified minorities. Absurd!!

i
OF course they are! The data all show it.

What is absurd is that you will fight to the death to maintain AA policies that favor blacks, and then deny that whites are rejected in favor of blacks.

+1.

To be precise, it is whites and Asians being rejected in favor of blacks.

Yes. And what is so irking is that these bleeding-heart liberals who proclaim to "care about people" (as long as it's the skin color they favor) call other people racist for not giving preferential treatment to blacks with lesser qualifications - and then they demean poor whites as "white trash" and say "Billy can just got to community college."

Reverse that: Can you imagine if conservatives said that black kids can just go to community college? Or called them "black trash"?

Well, in fairness, Asians were losing spots to blacks and whites with lower qualifications at Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Also....you DCUM libs are just unbelievable. You seem to think that unless you have an IVY degree, your life will be a shambles.

I went to a non-Ivy, but still decent university, and then on to grad school (on my employer's dime). I had a successful and rewarding career, earning good but not astronomical money. MUST someone earn more than $150,000 to be considered a success in liberals' eyes? Wouldn't you say that a black high school kid with a B average, who then goes on to earn a (marketable) degree from the state university, and ultimately ends up earning around $120,000 is a success in life? Especially if they are good to family and friends, kind to animals, give back to their community, donate to charity, respect other people's property, and never hurt anyone?

You all are a bunch of liberal snobs.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you people so sure your kid would have been next on the list? At the cut line, there are hundreds of applicants who are very close in qualifications. None of them are undeserving but none of them are entitled to a spot either. There are other schools and if your kid is all you think he/she is, he/she will do well with a degree from any of them. It’s only the parents who can’t imagine life without Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Stanford.

Exactly.

Nobody ever said they were entitled. But in many cases their grades and scores would have taken them in that direction, but AA policies instead favored lower-scoring blacks. So why are black kids with lower grades ENTITLED? Any why can't the poorer-scoring black kids go to some other school? You people seem to be saying that 3rd tier universities are good enough for poor white Billy from the housing projects, even with his A- average, and yet Daeshanda should go to Ivy with her B+. Why not just turn it around: Let the better student go to the better school, and the so-so student go to the lesser university?

As soon as we have a level playing field that'd be fine. But today in 2019 we still have white supremacists proudly marching the streets. We have a POTUS who hesitates to disavow them. We have harsh backlash to BLM. We have people still worshipping Confederate war heros and the flag. We have systematic racism / implicit bias.

We are not ready for that. If a handful of white people have a slightly less optimal outcome? That's a price I'm willing to pay. Sorry, Billy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also....you DCUM libs are just unbelievable. You seem to think that unless you have an IVY degree, your life will be a shambles.

I went to a non-Ivy, but still decent university, and then on to grad school (on my employer's dime). I had a successful and rewarding career, earning good but not astronomical money. MUST someone earn more than $150,000 to be considered a success in liberals' eyes? Wouldn't you say that a black high school kid with a B average, who then goes on to earn a (marketable) degree from the state university, and ultimately ends up earning around $120,000 is a success in life? Especially if they are good to family and friends, kind to animals, give back to their community, donate to charity, respect other people's property, and never hurt anyone?

You all are a bunch of liberal snobs.

The AA haters are the ones who think Billy is entitled to an Ivy League education. That he DESERVES it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not.

Poor white people, poor white trash as we call them in my house growing up, still have all the advantages of being white.

It's nonsense to pretend otherwise.

Gets no such thing as white privilege. Great idea op.
How many posts did it take for someone to call you a racist?

OP here. Thanks....glad you see the equity in my idea.

As far as your question, yup, you're right ....it didn't take long for the racist label to come out. And why? Because I don't want to view skin color as a factor in admissions but instead consider financial background (which would still end up favoring blacks). Ironic, no?

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

You assume that white applicants are being rejected for lesser qualified minorities. Absurd!!

i
OF course they are! The data all show it.

What is absurd is that you will fight to the death to maintain AA policies that favor blacks, and then deny that whites are rejected in favor of blacks.

+1.

To be precise, it is whites and Asians being rejected in favor of blacks.

Yes. And what is so irking is that these bleeding-heart liberals who proclaim to "care about people" (as long as it's the skin color they favor) call other people racist for not giving preferential treatment to blacks with lesser qualifications - and then they demean poor whites as "white trash" and say "Billy can just got to community college."

Reverse that: Can you imagine if conservatives said that black kids can just go to community college? Or called them "black trash"?

Why do you only care about BLACK kids? What about the other URMs/college athletes/legacies who "keep deserving WHITE kids out of good universities"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

You assume that white applicants are being rejected for lesser qualified minorities. Absurd!!

i
OF course they are! The data all show it.

What is absurd is that you will fight to the death to maintain AA policies that favor blacks, and then deny that whites are rejected in favor of blacks.

+1.

To be precise, it is whites and Asians being rejected in favor of blacks.

Yes. And what is so irking is that these bleeding-heart liberals who proclaim to "care about people" (as long as it's the skin color they favor) call other people racist for not giving preferential treatment to blacks with lesser qualifications - and then they demean poor whites as "white trash" and say "Billy can just got to community college."

Reverse that: Can you imagine if conservatives said that black kids can just go to community college? Or called them "black trash"?

Why do you only care about BLACK kids? What about the other URMs/college athletes/legacies who "keep deserving WHITE kids out of good universities"?

Because....woke.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What makes you people so sure your kid would have been next on the list? At the cut line, there are hundreds of applicants who are very close in qualifications. None of them are undeserving but none of them are entitled to a spot either. There are other schools and if your kid is all you think he/she is, he/she will do well with a degree from any of them. It’s only the parents who can’t imagine life without Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Stanford.

Exactly.

Nobody ever said they were entitled. But in many cases their grades and scores would have taken them in that direction, but AA policies instead favored lower-scoring blacks. So why are black kids with lower grades ENTITLED? Any why can't the poorer-scoring black kids go to some other school? You people seem to be saying that 3rd tier universities are good enough for poor white Billy from the housing projects, even with his A- average, and yet Daeshanda should go to Ivy with her B+. Why not just turn it around: Let the better student go to the better school, and the so-so student go to the lesser university?

"Why can't the lower-scoring LAX athlete or legacy go to a lesser university? Why are they taking Billy's spot?"

-said no racist ever

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also....you DCUM libs are just unbelievable. You seem to think that unless you have an IVY degree, your life will be a shambles.

I went to a non-Ivy, but still decent university, and then on to grad school (on my employer's dime). I had a successful and rewarding career, earning good but not astronomical money. MUST someone earn more than $150,000 to be considered a success in liberals' eyes? Wouldn't you say that a black high school kid with a B average, who then goes on to earn a (marketable) degree from the state university, and ultimately ends up earning around $120,000 is a success in life? Especially if they are good to family and friends, kind to animals, give back to their community, donate to charity, respect other people's property, and never hurt anyone?

You all are a bunch of liberal snobs.

The AA haters are the ones who think Billy is entitled to an Ivy League education. That he DESERVES it.

No. The ones who hate race-based AA realize that Billy, with his straight As, deserves to go to a more competitive college than Dashanda, with her Bs - especially if Billy came from a poor background and Dashanda came from a middle-class background.

Conversely, the AA supporters are the ones who think Dashanda is ENTITLED to push Billy, with his superior grades, over to community college so that she can get accepted due to her skin color, B average and all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

You assume that white applicants are being rejected for lesser qualified minorities. Absurd!!

i
OF course they are! The data all show it.

What is absurd is that you will fight to the death to maintain AA policies that favor blacks, and then deny that whites are rejected in favor of blacks.

+1.

To be precise, it is whites and Asians being rejected in favor of blacks.

Yes. And what is so irking is that these bleeding-heart liberals who proclaim to "care about people" (as long as it's the skin color they favor) call other people racist for not giving preferential treatment to blacks with lesser qualifications - and then they demean poor whites as "white trash" and say "Billy can just got to community college."

Reverse that: Can you imagine if conservatives said that black kids can just go to community college? Or called them "black trash"?

Why do you only care about BLACK kids? What about the other URMs/college athletes/legacies who "keep deserving WHITE kids out of good universities"?

First, plenty of black athletes in college - in fact, out of proportion to their numbers in the population. (You should have seen my college basketball team!) As far as legacies, it's about money and donations. Can't change that. We can, however, change a mindset that says poorer-scoring black kids are ENTITLED to take the spots of better-scoring white kids for no other reason than skin color.

[Anonymous]

The main reason we need affirmative action for medical schools is that it has been repeatedly shown that white doctors do not treat black patients as well as they treat white patients
(e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/upshot/doctors-and-racial-bias-still-a-long-way-to-go.html )

So if you want to blame someone for the reason that Larla didn't get accepted to medical school, blame the white doctors who don't know how to treat their patients equally.