Life after church & not believing in God

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

You are both cynical and nasty. And there was no call for accusing the OP of being a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

You are both cynical and nasty. And there was no call for accusing the OP of being a troll.

She continued futilely.

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

Atheist troll: You took away my morning fun. Party pooper.
Jeff: You have a strange idea of fun.

Ah yes. Good intent.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/818126.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

Atheist troll: You took away my morning fun. Party pooper.
Jeff: You have a strange idea of fun.

Ah yes. Good intent.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/818126.page

Still don’t know you point. Looked at that thread, and I am not the poster referred to in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

Atheist troll: You took away my morning fun. Party pooper.
Jeff: You have a strange idea of fun.

Ah yes. Good intent.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/818126.page

Still don’t know you point. Looked at that thread, and I am not the poster referred to in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

Atheist troll: You took away my morning fun. Party pooper.
Jeff: You have a strange idea of fun.

Ah yes. Good intent.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/818126.page

Still don’t know you point. Looked at that thread, and I am not the poster referred to in it.

Cute memes or not, its not me. Honest. Although I have no idea why that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“I used to attend a Christian church. Mostly would be classified as evangelical/Pentecostal. I’m not sure exactly what it was as I always get confused with all the denominations, non denominational etc I spent ages 14-22 attending because of my parents. I had an overall horrible experience.”

Who goes to a church for 8 years and isn’t sure what kind of church it is? If she didn’t want to reveal what church it was, she didn’t have to name it.

If someone posted in another forum they went to a school for 8 years and spent all their time there and it was awful, but they don’t know the name of the school, other posters would be skeptical.

Fine, doesn't make them a "troll." P.S. I also get confused with all the denominations.

Denominations are confusing, but I can pick mine out of the bunch. Especially if I was at the same church for 8 years.

Which one is the right one?

More like, which one did op attend for almost a decade? Op?

Actually, I want to know which one is right.

You’re on your own. Start reading. I’m sure it will be a rewarding journey.

So it’s up to me? I get to pick?

Are you from America? Yes, you get to choose your religion in America.

Yes I am American. And I do not want to pick a religion like a pair of shoes. I want to know which one is right. Tell me please.

Sorry your “I don’t know what church ruined my life” gambit failed.

She lied vainly.
I don’t know what this means or what your point is.

Did you misuse the quote function here?

I still don’t know what your point is.

Also, I am male.

My bad. He lied vainly. He continued futilely. He doubled down wildly.

Sorry, Mr., Faulkner, but your point escapes me still, and I will assume you don’t really have one unless you participate with good intent.

Atheist troll: You took away my morning fun. Party pooper.
Jeff: You have a strange idea of fun.

Ah yes. Good intent.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/818126.page

Still don’t know you point. Looked at that thread, and I am not the poster referred to in it.

LOL, good one, pp.

Signed, the pp who started the thread about the obnoxious emoji atheist, which Jeff took down, thereby ruining pp’s day

[Anonymous]

It’s obvious that there are a few atheists here that consider religion their own personal forum and like to play games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious that there are a few atheists here that consider religion their own personal forum and like to play games.

I don’t mind atheists on this forum at all. It’s the 1-2 atheist trolls who play games that are a waste of space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious that there are a few atheists here that consider religion their own personal forum and like to play games.

I don’t mind atheists on this forum at all. It’s the 1-2 atheist trolls who play games that are a waste of space.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious that there are a few atheists here that consider religion their own personal forum and like to play games.

Hard to say how many -- just one person? maybe others depending on the subject. Then there's the Christian, hopefully just one, who seems obsessed with trolls and golden penis's andt brings up these subjects, instead of focusing on relevant religious issues..

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Anonymous wrote:Science can't affirmatively know or assert something until it’s empirically proven it; absent any such affirmative data, the true and proper scientific stance should be one that echoes Socrates' credo of "I know that I don't know.”

Without any affirmative scientific proof that God does not exist, the default position should be one of agnosticism--of "I don't know since I don't have enough data one way or another."

Why cant every reasonable person see this? I think secretly they do, but the religion gives them comfort (which is fine) and they belive becaue they want to believe.

For many, the data are the scriptures of whatever religion they follow. You may not think it’s enough, but billions of people find their scriptures, and the stories behind the scriptures, perfectly credible.

And billions don't and still believe in God or that there's "something" out there. They can feel it, but they can't prove it, but they don't care. The idea of a force watching over them and possibly offering them an eternal life after this one is very compelling, albeit unreasonable.

You’re double counting the same religious people to argue that scripture plays no role. With a sprinkling of how belief (aka “feelings” in your lexicon) is invalid because instead it’s merely about the comfort of an eternal life. Neither of your arguments is valid.

It's also quite likely that pp actually meant what was said and not your interpretation. Immediate pp sounds like someone who believes that religious belief is only valid if it comes through a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. All other forms of religious belief - and certainly non-belief - are tainted.

No, I’m not a fundamentalist. And there was a recent thread on whether the proximity of Paul and the gospel writers to Jesus was “good enough” and most religious people rejected your demand for apostolic tweets and thought the scriptures were pretty good evidence for something 2000 years old. I don’t want to rehash that thread. Just to make the point that your demand for at-the-moment evidence isn’t shared by many believers.

"I" made no such demands and understand that many believers do not need at-the-moment evidence. They need no evidence at all. They have faith.

You’re trying to gloss over the main point here, which is that for many believers, their scriptures (of whatever religion) are “proof” in addition to their faith.

A thing cant be its own proof that its true. That’s not how it works

That is exactly how it works. The “thing” is the proof that Moses/Jesus/Mohammed/Rama were true. Many religions regard their scriptures as miracles. You disagree, and that’s totally your prerogative. But understand that many disagree with you.

It's a whole different standard. Religious people rely of faith, including faith that their holy scriptures are "true" - even knowing that people of other religions think their scriptures are true. It's a different kind of knowing that non-religious people don't experience once they give up religion (or if they never were religious)

Exactly. It's only "proof" because they do have faith that it's proof. If they didn't have faith it wouldn't be "proof". It doesn't hold up to people outside of that religion.

Just because some people believe something doesn't make it true or real "proof".