Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:Also quick sum up:

This scheme is for people wealthy enough to try and sneak in, but not rich enough to quadruple the $$$ and legitimately buy their way in through the front door.

The difference being that if the university gets the donation - presumably its improved for all future students.

If the athletic director gets a bribe, s/he is just lining their pockets.

Which is exactly why two of the school officials have already been fired (at Yale and USC) and the rest will be hung out to dry quickly. They're going to flip on those parents quicker than Cohen.

It's just getting good.

I chuckled.

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Anonymous wrote:quote from one of the wiretaps of a discussion with a potential client: "okay, so, who we are-- what we do is we help the wealthiest families in the U.S. get their kids into school …. Every year there are-- is a group of families, especially where I am right now in the Bay Area, Palo Alto, I just flew in. That they want guarantees, they want this thing done. They don’t want to be messing around with this thing. And so they want in at certain schools. So I did 761 what I would call, “side doors.” There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement, which is ten times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in. Because the back door, when you go through institutional advancement, as you know, everybody’s got a friend of a friend, who knows somebody who knows somebody but there’s no guarantee, they’re just gonna give you a second look. My families want a guarantee. So, if you said to me ‘here’s our grades, here’s our scores, here’s our ability, and we want to go to X school’ and you give me one or two schools, and then I’ll go after those schools and try to get a guarantee done. So that, by the time, the summer of her senior year, before her senior year, hopefully we can have this thing done, so that in the fall, before December 15th, you already knows she’s in. Done. And you make a financial commitment. It depends on what school you want, may determine how much that actually is. But that’s kind of how the the side and back door work. "

Soon to be a major motion picture. I'm thinking Matthew Mcconaughey as Singer?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there's a real viral marketing opportunity for ASU here. Hope they take advantage of it.

Arizona State?

I am not following.

The whole reason Lori Laughlin did this was so her daughter could go somewhere that wasn't ASU.

But was that where she was initially supposed to go, or are you just bashing ASU for no reason? That college does a lot of good for their instate students. President made it bigger and adds online online opportunities to equal over 80K students. little to no-one gets rejected in-state. Smart kids get full rides. He stated he wanted everyone an opportunity to get educated. I rather my kid go to a school like that, than an uptight rich white school these parents bribed for.

Sorry, just not a fan of college bashing

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ASU is a known school for partying and not so serious students. Have you been living under a rock?

I think you have. Maybe in the early 2000's, but that school has undergone a huge transformation. I used to live in Phoenix. ASU is a fantastic growing school. #1 in the country for innovation. #11 for undergrad teaching. #38 for best undergrad engineering. #50 top public school. Not stellar, but not an idiot party school.

Can you post the lists that you found it was a top partying school? I don't see it on any of the current lists or from any the past couple of years. I do see Tulane as the #1 on most of them though. I did find ASU as #56 in Niche, but USC was listed as #18. I also found it as #40 on Stacker (smacked between #41 UMCP and #39 Lehigh) and USC was listed as #33.

Is USC just known as the better school because more elite kids go there? More families that can pay for their kids to get tutors, test prep, etc.... to bump up the average scores of a college. To get kids to graduate on time because they don't have to work part time or skip a semester to work to pay for college or support their parents? To let their kids into fancy programs, internships, etc.. where they haven't truly earned it. Or to bribe or donate to get their kids in the school? Over 40% of the kids at USC have families that make over $120K. ASU only have 15% that do and has 35% of kids whose families make less than $30K.

So basically PP, you are judging the worth of the school by the elite that goes there. USC is ahead of ASU in every partying list. So is ASU just considered the party school in your mind because it doesn't cost a fortune to go there or that the kids aren't rich enough to be handed everything including high GPA's and test scores? Maybe it is because they allow surrounding compact states to come in for in-state tuition even though they know it will never bring up their mean GPA and scores. Disgusting.

You are ignorant and elitist as well.

USC is currently ranked 21 by US News.

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, with reality tv and book deals, the actresses will come out ahead. The apparently dumb kids will still be set. Some producer is sitting there right now thinking, I can work with this, I can make this happen....

Umm, no. Actually Hollywood doesn't really take kindly to scandals. Whether its wife beaters, rapists, or fraud.

Also both Loughlin and Hoffman are seen as 'every woman', even wholesome, network stars. ESPECIALLY Loughlin.

Their career is over.

And neither is the type or the preferred 'model' for reality tv. They don't have the looks and they aren't bimbos.

Like I said - Loughlin was the wholesome, middle America every woman who starred on a Christian show about love.

Hallmark is going to write her out so fast. They don't do bad publicity.

Wonder if Target will drop Mossimo.

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Anonymous wrote:Welp!! Lori Loughlin just blocked me on Instagram, can’t tell you how proud I am

I think she deleted her Instagram altogether now!

I'm surprised it stayed out in the open as long as it did..

Felicity Huffmans is still up!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also quick sum up:

This scheme is for people wealthy enough to try and sneak in, but not rich enough to quadruple the $$$ and legitimately buy their way in through the front door.

The difference being that if the university gets the donation - presumably its improved for all future students.

If the athletic director gets a bribe, s/he is just lining their pockets.

Which is exactly why two of the school officials have already been fired (at Yale and USC) and the rest will be hung out to dry quickly. They're going to flip on those parents quicker than Cohen.

It's just getting good.

You know what be really good? If the university officials all over the country looked into athletic admissions; how those kids got there and what they were doing.
DH worked in a college in NY where the president got fired over an athletic scandal; it was of a different kind, the university actually admitted kids for their football team who were barely literate, for the sole purpose of winning games; and those kids, naturally, weren't keeping up with academic requirements and professors were 'kindly' asked to pass them, and they did.
The president lost his job over it.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet there are a lot of nervous people around here right now, probably afraid to answer their phones.
If you think this guy was the only one running this scam you are fooling your self.

True. They may have been looking into lots of similar "charities."

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Anonymous wrote:Felicity Huffman's husband (not indicted) was chatting about how 'difficult' the admission process was just two months ago. Guess its pretty hard to wipe your tears with hundreds of thousands as you cut a check.

https://people.com/movies/felicity-huffman-william-h-macy-stressful-college-admission-bribery-scandal/

We’re right now in the thick of college application time, which is so stressful. I am voting that once she gets accepted, she maybe takes a year off. God doesn’t let you be 18 twice. I know from casting, if you need a 25-, 26-year-old actress, there are a lot of them out there and they’re really good. But if you need a 15-, 16-year-old actress, it’s tough. Sofia looks young. I think this is an opportunity for her. But it’s just my opinion, and we’ll see what she wants to do, what Felicity thinks and how the chips fall. My daughter Georgia, she’s interested in politics, political science and pursuing that. She’s in a very academic school and killing it.

Shameless

Nicely done

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, with reality tv and book deals, the actresses will come out ahead. The apparently dumb kids will still be set. Some producer is sitting there right now thinking, I can work with this, I can make this happen....

Umm, no. Actually Hollywood doesn't really take kindly to scandals. Whether its wife beaters, rapists, or fraud.

Also both Loughlin and Hoffman are seen as 'every woman', even wholesome, network stars. ESPECIALLY Loughlin.

Their career is over.

And neither is the type or the preferred 'model' for reality tv. They don't have the looks and they aren't bimbos.

Like I said - Loughlin was the wholesome, middle America every woman who starred on a Christian show about love.

Hallmark is going to write her out so fast. They don't do bad publicity.

Wonder if Target will drop Mossimo.

He is indicted along with his wife. If the publicity scandal gets big enough they will. But someone would have to drive up a hell of a stink since I think there's separation between his brand and 'him'.

Unlike Loughlin who probably has a morality clause in her Hallmark contract.

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Anonymous wrote:quote from one of the wiretaps of a discussion with a potential client: "okay, so, who we are-- what we do is we help the wealthiest families in the U.S. get their kids into school …. Every year there are-- is a group of families, especially where I am right now in the Bay Area, Palo Alto, I just flew in. That they want guarantees, they want this thing done. They don’t want to be messing around with this thing. And so they want in at certain schools. So I did 761 what I would call, “side doors.” There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement, which is ten times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in. Because the back door, when you go through institutional advancement, as you know, everybody’s got a friend of a friend, who knows somebody who knows somebody but there’s no guarantee, they’re just gonna give you a second look. My families want a guarantee. So, if you said to me ‘here’s our grades, here’s our scores, here’s our ability, and we want to go to X school’ and you give me one or two schools, and then I’ll go after those schools and try to get a guarantee done. So that, by the time, the summer of her senior year, before her senior year, hopefully we can have this thing done, so that in the fall, before December 15th, you already knows she’s in. Done. And you make a financial commitment. It depends on what school you want, may determine how much that actually is. But that’s kind of how the the side and back door work. "

Soon to be a major motion picture. I'm thinking Matthew Mcconaughey as Singer?

And they can cast Laughlin/Macy children as themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet there are a lot of nervous people around here right now, probably afraid to answer their phones.
If you think this guy was the only one running this scam you are fooling your self.

The US Attorney said the investigation is ongoing, and the two main guys who ran the scheme have both flipped. There's more to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Down falls another pillar of what used to make us better than many foreign lands.

This headline is THE definitive answer to all of those people who whine about affirmative action.

Affirmative action is for the poor to counter the bribes? Huh ?

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Anonymous wrote:quote from one of the wiretaps of a discussion with a potential client: "okay, so, who we are-- what we do is we help the wealthiest families in the U.S. get their kids into school …. Every year there are-- is a group of families, especially where I am right now in the Bay Area, Palo Alto, I just flew in. That they want guarantees, they want this thing done. They don’t want to be messing around with this thing. And so they want in at certain schools. So I did 761 what I would call, “side doors.” There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement, which is ten times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in. Because the back door, when you go through institutional advancement, as you know, everybody’s got a friend of a friend, who knows somebody who knows somebody but there’s no guarantee, they’re just gonna give you a second look. My families want a guarantee. So, if you said to me ‘here’s our grades, here’s our scores, here’s our ability, and we want to go to X school’ and you give me one or two schools, and then I’ll go after those schools and try to get a guarantee done. So that, by the time, the summer of her senior year, before her senior year, hopefully we can have this thing done, so that in the fall, before December 15th, you already knows she’s in. Done. And you make a financial commitment. It depends on what school you want, may determine how much that actually is. But that’s kind of how the the side and back door work. "

Soon to be a major motion picture. I'm thinking Matthew Mcconaughey as Singer?

No. Needs to be someone who looks more trustworthy, even preppy.

Bryan Cranston IMO

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Anonymous wrote:Down falls another pillar of what used to make us better than many foreign lands.

This headline is THE definitive answer to all of those people who whine about affirmative action.

Affirmative action is for the poor to counter the bribes? Huh ?

This scandal shows that wealthy people are more than willing to use their privilege to cheat their way into institutions that they couldn't get into otherwise.

Black and Latino kids are usually assumed to have only gotten in because of their race.

But I can promise that no AA candidate's mom paid someone to boost their SAT score from 1020 to 1420 they way Huffman did.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they even bothering with college. Seriouly.

Credentials. You never know how life turns out down the road. Kinda like Trump and his UPenn degree.