You're right! ![]() |
I'm sorry, you mean too early... I get what you're trying to say about the writers, but why take a hit at the actress? If the writers and actors are too lazy and the plot too boring, stop watching the show. |
OMG! So, so funny!! |
Actually that language is not anachronistic. "Sucking up to someone" didn't derive from vacuum cleaners and first documented use is from around 1860 |
Thank you, I didn't know that. Also, is anyone else worried that they sent Violet off to the South of France to die off screen? |
Well it doesn't really matter if Violet dies or not. There are only a couple episodes left. But maybe she'll come back for the Christmas episode. |
Well, it would be a damn shame b/c that would mean the series killed off the most likable characters--Sybil, Matthew, Isis. |
Interesting...can you say more about the early usage and derivation? It seems like, even if it was in usage, it would be considered pretty coarse langauge, and not what a lady of good family would use. (My mother is still horrified by use of the word "sucks"). I liked Lord Grantham saying "It all seems a bit rum to me" or whatever he said when invited to the servants' hall to receive the package from Granny ...I don't know, but that certainly sounds like something a 1920's British lord would have said! |
HA! My mom is horrified too! And I find myself telling my kids not to use it because it sounds "common" and trashy! I guess it does have a vulgar connotation that today's kids aren't really aware of, or don't care about, even if it's not a "bad" word. Still, I cringe whenever I hear my kids say it around my mom! ![]() |
The outfits look strange, but they are historically accurate. My great-grandfather raced cars in the 1920s and he was wearing almost exactly this same type of outfit in all of the pictures. |
They're different words. I'm British and sometimes kids say things suck, but generally it's not used. But the phrase to "suck up to someone" (like to kiss ass), which is what Edith said, is a much older phrase - I will try to find a source for it and post it. If you ever read Enid Blyton books (British author writing in the 1930s and 1940s) - not sure if they are known here? Famous Five, Mallory Towers, etc? Anyway - she used that phrase a lot (said by posh girls in boarding schools in the 1930s!). I think it would have been something the younger members of the family would have said but not the older ones, and I don't think it would have been considered common or trashy. It didn't stick out to me at all. |
My DD loves these Enid Blyton books: http://www.amazon.com/Naughty-Amelia-Jane-Enid-Blyton/dp/074974667X |
More innocuously, I thought "sucking up" referred to sucking in your gut to look better around someone you want to impress. Am I naive? |
Maybe that is a meaning too, perhaps in American English? For sure in Edith's context it means trying to win someone's approval, usually through flattery, etc |
Until this most recent episode, I thought Mary and Tom were going to end up together and unlike most people I dont hate that idea. I love Mary. I know she has been selfish and rude to Edith, but she seems so deep and interesting. Every time she's on the screen I perk up. I will miss her the most about the show...
And Robert and the puppy were super cute. |