HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

No doubt we should increase penalties for parents "hosting" parties and further drive underage drinking underground while refusing to take any steps toward pursuing sensible alcohol regulations and culture that would reduce the desire for binge drinking.

Sincerely,

DCUM Harpies

What do you mean? Three decades of "Just say no" and "Abstinence" were such resounding successes

Well, increasing the drinking age to 21 caused teen drinking and driving rates to plummet. 54% reduction over the past 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What do you mean? Three decades of "Just say no" and "Abstinence" were such resounding successes

Well, increasing the drinking age to 21 caused teen drinking and driving rates to plummet. 54% reduction over the past 20 years.

Except that drinking and driving rates among people over 21 also went way down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone too far. Discussion about teen drinking and driving is great and beneficial to the whole community.

Speculation and inaccurate accusations about a specific individual, his friends and his family in our community should not be allowed on DCUM.

Exactly what inaccurate accusation are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

It's per se wrong to host aunderage drinking party. Whoever did that is completely liable, legally and morally, IMO.

But Ellis' parents? We don't know what they knew, what they did or did not do, at all. They may have been struggling with keeping him under control. He's been 18 since last fall. Parents can't force an adult into treatment, etc. Maybe he took the car without permission and they couldn't find him. Who knows?

But for sure, it's Sam Ellis' fault his friends are dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's per se wrong to host aunderage drinking party. Whoever did that is completely liable, legally and morally, IMO.

But Ellis' parents? We don't know what they knew, what they did or did not do, at all. They may have been struggling with keeping him under control. He's been 18 since last fall. Parents can't force an adult into treatment, etc. Maybe he took the car without permission and they couldn't find him. Who knows?

But for sure, it's Sam Ellis' fault his friends are dead.

Are you the one who got a bunch of posts deleted?

[Anonymous]

Maybe this thread should go away, when honest dialogue is no longer allowed. Just sit back, folks, and quietly wait for the next good kid to die senselessly.

[Anonymous]

Honest dialogue about the isssue is valuable -- inaccurate, derogatory and speculative discussion about specific individuals in the community is slander.

[Anonymous]

What type of stuff was deleted? (not specifics because I suppose that would be deleted, too?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest dialogue about the isssue is valuable -- inaccurate, derogatory and speculative discussion about specific individuals in the community is slander.

Again I am requesting for you to point to exactly what has been said that was inaccurate. Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What type of stuff was deleted? (not specifics because I suppose that would be deleted, too?)

Unflattering posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

If that were true, no one would have a problem with this thread. Instead, you started the thread with this:

Do we already have a thread about what happened to the Wooten graduates?

If you don't see the difference, then I cannot help you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

If that were true, no one would have a problem with this thread. Instead, you started the thread with this:

Do we already have a thread about what happened to the Wooten graduates?

If you don't see the difference, then I cannot help you.

Seriously, is that the best you can do?

[Anonymous]

The link to the kids Twitter was deleted. Rightfully so.

[Anonymous]

No one cares about Twitter, but I do care about the next teen who'll be at a party, and drinking and driving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

If that were true, no one would have a problem with this thread. Instead, you started the thread with this:

Do we already have a thread about what happened to the Wooten graduates?

If you don't see the difference, then I cannot help you.

Seriously, is that the best you can do?

Grow up.