HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/police-say-teen-driver-in-wootton-high-school-crash-expected-to-survive/2015/06/29/7abac122-1e87-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_story.html

As of today, "no charges have yet been filed, pending the completion of the final police report," just heard on WTOP. Are they thinking people might start answering the questions by police? Aren't people legally obligated to answer questions by law enforcement?

No.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

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Anonymous wrote:Had a "dry" graduation party for my son. (He was not a cool kid). It was during the day on a Saturday. Only one parent called me to ask if there would be alcohol there.
Just because the kids are going to sneak and do stuff anyway doesn't mean we shouldn't try and have no-alcohol events.
I'm not willing to throw in the towel and just see what happens.

You're my idea of a good parent.

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Good for you PP. And, good for that other parent for calling to ask!

You do realize most of the parties with drugs and alcohol ... The parents did not supply it, it is hidden from the parents. It's not until somebody throws up that the parents realize there is a breach in security.

I hope you then told everyone to call their parents to be taken home. Did you? Or did they drive themselves, not know for sure if they had "too much" to drink?

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Except 1/2 the party went home, before you realize it.

Nobody should be hosting parties so big they don't know who's there. Nobody should be letting their kids hang out with "zero" supervision. If all this is happening, then parents are tacitly condoning it all. There's no way to hide heavy alcohol use unless the parents are drunk or stoned themselves.

You are clueless. 10 kids over to watch a movie, all are 17, you don't check on kids every 5 min. They sneak in vodka, do shots. 5 leave through the back door, your daughter realizes what is going onand comes to get you. You go downstairs and 1 kid is throwing up, 5 are gone. It happens as fast as that. PPLUS you have known all these kids since K... goood kids.

This must be a kid posting. I'm not clueless. I'm a responsible parent. Kids are in the family room, on the same level. If you aren't drinking yourself, you can smell alcohol (yes, including vodka) a mile away. Random checking, following by truly nixing inappropriate behavior, is a powerful deterrent. And I know many many parents like me, who do the same thing.

And there are many parents who don't supervise. Or who condone teen drinking. Kids tend to go "there" to party hard. Or they skip school and go to whatever house doesn't have parents and nosy neighbors. Not to my house.

Your kid is lucky to have a parent who isn't afraid to be the parent.

You really don't leave your 18 year old alone with his/her friends in your house and you stay in the same room with them???? Do you go to the movies with your 18 year old and his/her friends? Do you meet your 18 year old at school for lunch every day? Time to cut the cord!!!!!

Thank you! You can't watch your children 24x7. You don't go to the grocery store... And if you do, you make you 17 yo go with you?

What is wrong with your reading comprehension? We are talking about supervision at a party. Not their every waking moment.

No. We are talking about watching a movie, go back and read.

I'm a responsible parent. Kids are in the family room, on the same level.

[Anonymous]

This thread started off as an interesting discussion, unfortunately it has turned into something disgusting with speculation about people that people can only put together with only a few facts. I hope this whole thread is deleted because of the direction it has turned.

[Anonymous]

From the WTOP report today:
In March, Ellis was cited for possession of alcohol, and the charges were to be dropped pending his completion of an alcohol education program. The Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s office says Ellis was enrolled in the program, but he had not completed it at the time of the fatal June 25 wreck.

Montgomery County police told reporters that beer containers, “still cool to the touch,” were found in the vehicle driven by Ellis the night of the crash in North Potomac.

Elllis was facing a court appearance in Ocean City based on a June 2 incident. That also involved Calvin Li.

The formal charge in court records is “affray,” which refers to a fight or disagreement that disturbs the public. It’s similar to a disorderly conduct charge.

On July 9, Ellis is to be in an Ocean City court on that charge. McAuliffe says he’s filed a motion to postpone that appearance based on Ellis’ physical condition.

“He’s in no condition to travel,” McAuliffe says.

WTOP’s Kate Ryan contributed to this report.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the WTOP report today:
In March, Ellis was cited for possession of alcohol, and the charges were to be dropped pending his completion of an alcohol education program. The Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s office says Ellis was enrolled in the program, but he had not completed it at the time of the fatal June 25 wreck.

Montgomery County police told reporters that beer containers, “still cool to the touch,” were found in the vehicle driven by Ellis the night of the crash in North Potomac.

Elllis was facing a court appearance in Ocean City based on a June 2 incident. That also involved Calvin Li.

The formal charge in court records is “affray,” which refers to a fight or disagreement that disturbs the public. It’s similar to a disorderly conduct charge.

On July 9, Ellis is to be in an Ocean City court on that charge. McAuliffe says he’s filed a motion to postpone that appearance based on Ellis’ physical condition.

“He’s in no condition to travel,” McAuliffe says.

WTOP’s Kate Ryan contributed to this report.
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What condition is he in if he is at home? Is he able to stand trial in Montgomery County?

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I almost feel sorry for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the WTOP report today:
In March, Ellis was cited for possession of alcohol, and the charges were to be dropped pending his completion of an alcohol education program. The Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s office says Ellis was enrolled in the program, but he had not completed it at the time of the fatal June 25 wreck.

Montgomery County police told reporters that beer containers, “still cool to the touch,” were found in the vehicle driven by Ellis the night of the crash in North Potomac.

Elllis was facing a court appearance in Ocean City based on a June 2 incident. That also involved Calvin Li.

The formal charge in court records is “affray,” which refers to a fight or disagreement that disturbs the public. It’s similar to a disorderly conduct charge.

On July 9, Ellis is to be in an Ocean City court on that charge. McAuliffe says he’s filed a motion to postpone that appearance based on Ellis’ physical condition.

“He’s in no condition to travel,” McAuliffe says.

WTOP’s Kate Ryan contributed to this report.
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What condition is he in if he is at home? Is he able to stand trial in Montgomery County?

concussion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the WTOP report today:
In March, Ellis was cited for possession of alcohol, and the charges were to be dropped pending his completion of an alcohol education program. The Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s office says Ellis was enrolled in the program, but he had not completed it at the time of the fatal June 25 wreck.

Montgomery County police told reporters that beer containers, “still cool to the touch,” were found in the vehicle driven by Ellis the night of the crash in North Potomac.

Elllis was facing a court appearance in Ocean City based on a June 2 incident. That also involved Calvin Li.

The formal charge in court records is “affray,” which refers to a fight or disagreement that disturbs the public. It’s similar to a disorderly conduct charge.

On July 9, Ellis is to be in an Ocean City court on that charge. McAuliffe says he’s filed a motion to postpone that appearance based on Ellis’ physical condition.

“He’s in no condition to travel,” McAuliffe says.

WTOP’s Kate Ryan contributed to this report.
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What condition is he in if he is at home? Is he able to stand trial in Montgomery County?

concussion

Like football players..

[Anonymous]

This thread has gone too far. Discussion about teen drinking and driving is great and beneficial to the whole community.

Speculation and inaccurate accusations about a specific individual, his friends and his family in our community should not be allowed on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone too far. Discussion about teen drinking and driving is great and beneficial to the whole community.

Speculation and inaccurate accusations about a specific individual, his friends and his family in our community should not be allowed on DCUM.

I agree 100% but you need to report and ask Jeff to step in to moderate or to lock the thread. He's done this before when threads of local teen suicides got way too off track and personal. As with that thread, I agree 100% that we should be talking about these tough issues but our talk should not involve rank speculation and stone-throwing at targeted parents and teens in our community. Yes, this is the internet, but it isn't reddit or ffx underground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone too far. Discussion about teen drinking and driving is great and beneficial to the whole community.

Speculation and inaccurate accusations about a specific individual, his friends and his family in our community should not be allowed on DCUM.

I agree 100% but you need to report and ask Jeff to step in to moderate or to lock the thread. He's done this before when threads of local teen suicides got way too off track and personal. As with that thread, I agree 100% that we should be talking about these tough issues but our talk should not involve rank speculation and stone-throwing at targeted parents and teens in our community. Yes, this is the internet, but it isn't reddit or ffx underground.

The thread on Marquiz Turner isn't locked, the Churchill student who's charged as an adult in raping the woman next to the Rockville courthouse. People have said some awful stuff about him, and the victim. And nobody asked for it to be locked. It makes me curious about the disparity on this one. After all, this driver killed two people.

[Anonymous]

I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

No doubt we should increase penalties for parents "hosting" parties and further drive underage drinking underground while refusing to take any steps toward pursuing sensible alcohol regulations and culture that would reduce the desire for binge drinking.

Sincerely,

DCUM Harpies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

No doubt we should increase penalties for parents "hosting" parties and further drive underage drinking underground while refusing to take any steps toward pursuing sensible alcohol regulations and culture that would reduce the desire for binge drinking.

Sincerely,

DCUM Harpies

Please explain your last part. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread in the teen section, precisely because teen drinking (and very often driving) is a problem in virtually every single high school, not just the wealthy schools in Montgomery County.

It's vitally important to have open communication about what leads families, schools, and communities to this deadly situation, and how to reduce it. We must stop protecting our good kids from the realities of life. And death.

No doubt we should increase penalties for parents "hosting" parties and further drive underage drinking underground while refusing to take any steps toward pursuing sensible alcohol regulations and culture that would reduce the desire for binge drinking.

Sincerely,

DCUM Harpies

What do you mean? Three decades of "Just say no" and "Abstinence" were such resounding successes