s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So while I've met many intelligent black men, I've also met quite a few who were pushed along by affirmative action and therefore didn't have the skills necessary to do the job right.

Really. I've met many intelligent white men, but I've also met quite a few who were pushed along by affirmative action and therefore didn't have the skills necessary to do the job right.

Except of course that when white men promote unqualified white men, we don't officially call it "affirmative action".

Unofficially, it's called white privilege. White privilege is bestowed each and everyday and is more widespread than affirmative action has and will ever be. And affirmative action is a detriment to some minorities while benefiting white women. What a hoot!

[Anonymous]

White people don't like being stereotyped. They resent the term "white people" because they feel it robs them of their individuality. Look at the threads throughout these forums. Say whatever you want about Rush Limbaugh or Cliven Bundy or Timothy McVeigh or whoever but don't even think about saying something revolving around white people - they pitch a fit.
"My family didn't own slaves I was an immigrant my husband is black I voted for Obama!"
Whites go on the defensive immediately when they sense they are being lumped into one homogeneous category. The irony of that is white people don't hesitate to lump other ethnicities into one group and rob other ethnicities of their individuality. WTF? Way I figure if you got a problem with people saying all whites are racist child molesting pill popping serial killers then don't say all blacks are X or all Hispanics are Y or Asians are Z. If you can't take stereotypical depictions then stop dishing them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White people don't like being stereotyped. They resent the term "white people" because they feel it robs them of their individuality. Look at the threads throughout these forums. Say whatever you want about Rush Limbaugh or Cliven Bundy or Timothy McVeigh or whoever but don't even think about saying something revolving around white people - they pitch a fit.
"My family didn't own slaves I was an immigrant my husband is black I voted for Obama!"
Whites go on the defensive immediately when they sense they are being lumped into one homogeneous category. The irony of that is white people don't hesitate to lump other ethnicities into one group and rob other ethnicities of their individuality. WTF? Way I figure if you got a problem with people saying all whites are racist child molesting pill popping serial killers then don't say all blacks are X or all Hispanics are Y or Asians are Z. If you can't take stereotypical depictions then stop dishing them out.

While I don't agree with gross generalizations, this isn't a good argument.

People stereotype black males as being dangerous that's true. The sad part about this is that 1 our of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their lifetimes. In DC, I believe it's over 50%. A lot of people take this as proof that the system is biased against blacks, but when the FBI does their crime victimization survey every year, the proportion of blacks who are reported committing crimes matches very closely with the numbers being prosecuted and convicted. While this doesn't say that there isn't some unfairness in the system, it does strongly suggest that the percentages getting convicted are proportional to the people committing the crimes. The proportion of "white child molesting, pill popping, serial killers" is absolutely miniscule in comparison, which is why it's not a fair comparison. When a significant proportion of the white male population are serial killers or child molesters we can talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White people don't like being stereotyped. They resent the term "white people" because they feel it robs them of their individuality. Look at the threads throughout these forums. Say whatever you want about Rush Limbaugh or Cliven Bundy or Timothy McVeigh or whoever but don't even think about saying something revolving around white people - they pitch a fit.
"My family didn't own slaves I was an immigrant my husband is black I voted for Obama!"
Whites go on the defensive immediately when they sense they are being lumped into one homogeneous category. The irony of that is white people don't hesitate to lump other ethnicities into one group and rob other ethnicities of their individuality. WTF? Way I figure if you got a problem with people saying all whites are racist child molesting pill popping serial killers then don't say all blacks are X or all Hispanics are Y or Asians are Z. If you can't take stereotypical depictions then stop dishing them out.

You've completely discredited yourself in line one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with gross generalizations, this isn't a good argument.

People stereotype black males as being dangerous that's true. The sad part about this is that 1 our of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their lifetimes. In DC, I believe it's over 50%. A lot of people take this as proof that the system is biased against blacks, but when the FBI does their crime victimization survey every year, the proportion of blacks who are reported committing crimes matches very closely with the numbers being prosecuted and convicted. While this doesn't say that there isn't some unfairness in the system, it does strongly suggest that the percentages getting convicted are proportional to the people committing the crimes. The proportion of "white child molesting, pill popping, serial killers" is absolutely miniscule in comparison, which is why it's not a fair comparison. When a significant proportion of the white male population are serial killers or child molesters we can talk.

So if it's true people stereotype black males as being dangerous and criminal then doesn't it suggest that they will be more disproportionately arrested? Cop sees a white guy walking down the street carrying a flat screen tv he asks him if he needs help; cop sees a black guy doing the same, he stops him frisks him and asks where he got it while calling for backup. That's why more blacks are reported commuting crimes and get in confrontations with the police in the first place. It's not that whites are more law-abiding it's just they aren't immediately seen as suspects and subsequently are better able to avoid arrest. The fact of the matter is that whiteness presumes innocence and blackness presumes guilt.

[Anonymous]

White people do love molesting children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White people do love molesting children

not according to the CPS calls my colleagues have made . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White people do love molesting children

not according to the CPS calls my colleagues have made . . .

See how stupid your post was, first PP?

There's always a way to retort, however stupid the response is.

[Anonymous]

White people get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their character, their reasoning, and their actions while a black man has to prove himself otherwise to avoid being arrested or murdered by the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White people get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their character, their reasoning, and their actions while a black man has to prove himself otherwise to avoid being arrested or murdered by the police.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with gross generalizations, this isn't a good argument.

People stereotype black males as being dangerous that's true. The sad part about this is that 1 our of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their lifetimes. In DC, I believe it's over 50%. A lot of people take this as proof that the system is biased against blacks, but when the FBI does their crime victimization survey every year, the proportion of blacks who are reported committing crimes matches very closely with the numbers being prosecuted and convicted. While this doesn't say that there isn't some unfairness in the system, it does strongly suggest that the percentages getting convicted are proportional to the people committing the crimes. The proportion of "white child molesting, pill popping, serial killers" is absolutely miniscule in comparison, which is why it's not a fair comparison. When a significant proportion of the white male population are serial killers or child molesters we can talk.

So if it's true people stereotype black males as being dangerous and criminal then doesn't it suggest that they will be more disproportionately arrested? Cop sees a white guy walking down the street carrying a flat screen tv he asks him if he needs help; cop sees a black guy doing the same, he stops him frisks him and asks where he got it while calling for backup. That's why more blacks are reported commuting crimes and get in confrontations with the police in the first place. It's not that whites are more law-abiding it's just they aren't immediately seen as suspects and subsequently are better able to avoid arrest. The fact of the matter is that whiteness presumes innocence and blackness presumes guilt.

Like I said, the FBI victimization numbers match very closely with the conviction numbers. These are people who are victims of crimes who identify the race of the people who are committing the crimes. All statistics actually disagree with your statement about whites not being more law abiding. They are. The whole mentality of "everyone commits crimes at the same rate and only blacks get called for it" is at the root of a lot of the problems. It's a failure to face reality. Stats also show that Asians are (in general) more law abiding than whites; are police targeting whites?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with gross generalizations, this isn't a good argument.

People stereotype black males as being dangerous that's true. The sad part about this is that 1 our of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their lifetimes. In DC, I believe it's over 50%. A lot of people take this as proof that the system is biased against blacks, but when the FBI does their crime victimization survey every year, the proportion of blacks who are reported committing crimes matches very closely with the numbers being prosecuted and convicted. While this doesn't say that there isn't some unfairness in the system, it does strongly suggest that the percentages getting convicted are proportional to the people committing the crimes. The proportion of "white child molesting, pill popping, serial killers" is absolutely miniscule in comparison, which is why it's not a fair comparison. When a significant proportion of the white male population are serial killers or child molesters we can talk.

So if it's true people stereotype black males as being dangerous and criminal then doesn't it suggest that they will be more disproportionately arrested? Cop sees a white guy walking down the street carrying a flat screen tv he asks him if he needs help; cop sees a black guy doing the same, he stops him frisks him and asks where he got it while calling for backup. That's why more blacks are reported commuting crimes and get in confrontations with the police in the first place. It's not that whites are more law-abiding it's just they aren't immediately seen as suspects and subsequently are better able to avoid arrest. The fact of the matter is that whiteness presumes innocence and blackness presumes guilt.

Like I said, the FBI victimization numbers match very closely with the conviction numbers. These are people who are victims of crimes who identify the race of the people who are committing the crimes. All statistics actually disagree with your statement about whites not being more law abiding. They are. The whole mentality of "everyone commits crimes at the same rate and only blacks get called for it" is at the root of a lot of the problems. It's a failure to face reality. Stats also show that Asians are (in general) more law abiding than whites; are police targeting whites?

Statistically, more whites commit crimes b/c whites are still the majority- almost a 70/30 split:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White people do love molesting children

not according to the CPS calls my colleagues have made . . .

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White people get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their character, their reasoning, and their actions while a black man has to prove himself otherwise to avoid being arrested or murdered by the police.

I hear this all the time, but w/o any evidence to support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with gross generalizations, this isn't a good argument.

People stereotype black males as being dangerous that's true. The sad part about this is that 1 our of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their lifetimes. In DC, I believe it's over 50%. A lot of people take this as proof that the system is biased against blacks, but when the FBI does their crime victimization survey every year, the proportion of blacks who are reported committing crimes matches very closely with the numbers being prosecuted and convicted. While this doesn't say that there isn't some unfairness in the system, it does strongly suggest that the percentages getting convicted are proportional to the people committing the crimes. The proportion of "white child molesting, pill popping, serial killers" is absolutely miniscule in comparison, which is why it's not a fair comparison. When a significant proportion of the white male population are serial killers or child molesters we can talk.

So if it's true people stereotype black males as being dangerous and criminal then doesn't it suggest that they will be more disproportionately arrested? Cop sees a white guy walking down the street carrying a flat screen tv he asks him if he needs help; cop sees a black guy doing the same, he stops him frisks him and asks where he got it while calling for backup. That's why more blacks are reported commuting crimes and get in confrontations with the police in the first place. It's not that whites are more law-abiding it's just they aren't immediately seen as suspects and subsequently are better able to avoid arrest. The fact of the matter is that whiteness presumes innocence and blackness presumes guilt.

Like I said, the FBI victimization numbers match very closely with the conviction numbers. These are people who are victims of crimes who identify the race of the people who are committing the crimes. All statistics actually disagree with your statement about whites not being more law abiding. They are. The whole mentality of "everyone commits crimes at the same rate and only blacks get called for it" is at the root of a lot of the problems. It's a failure to face reality. Stats also show that Asians are (in general) more law abiding than whites; are police targeting whites?

Statistically, more whites commit crimes b/c whites are still the majority- almost a 70/30 split:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

Sure, but these things are calculated on a per-capita basis, not just gross numbers. Look at the murder and robbery statistics; blacks commit more of them than whites even though the black population is much, much smaller. In addition, the white numbers include Hispanics which skew the numbers upwards. If it was broken out by Caucasian, Hispanic and Black it would be a much more stark difference.