Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:Gerrymandering is a big reason why our government doesn't work. We turn all of our districts into area where only one party can win, and then, because only the primaries matter, both parties end up nominating their most extreme candidates. Then we get a legislature full of extreme conservatives and extreme progressives, and people wonder why they can't agree to do anything.

But if one side gerrymanders and the other doesn’t, then the side that doesn’t gerrymander loses. Our choice is to also gerrymander or give control of the US government to the Republicans for the foreseeable future. So far the Republicans controlling all 3 branches isn’t going well. The deficit is exploding, job growth is stagnant, gas prices are skyrocketing, and we’re in a conflict with Iran for inexplicable reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

If this passes and Spanberger and Dems fail to have control, are you ok with GOP renewing/duplicating this amendment? If this passes, there is no going back. You will have given the GOP the keys to the kingdom. Even if the Dems manage to hold and control seats, mark my words, they will not anllow this amendment to expire. One day they will lose, and the GOP will use this with impunity.

I’ve said it before, if you want to take down Trump, you need to hurt him financially (if you can’t jail him.

The good news? Trump is old and can’t live too much longer.

Hope you’re good with that short term gain for long term loss.

Good grief, Republicans are hypocritical. This administration has blown up every norm protecting our democracy and citizens. They expressly stated their goal of picking up 5 Republican seats by redisticting in TX, argue vociferously for the SAVE Act, argue that any election that the Republicans lose must not have been valid, and then claim that the VA vote on redistricting goes to far. 🙄

x1,000 I'm sure people there are paid trolls/influencers here from MAGA. There's new data showing that influencers get paid 10X for GOP content, over Dem content. They are throwing so much cash at the elections because they are scared. Elon just donated $22M to a PAC.

Please take anyone advocating online for anything remotely MAGA that they might be getting paid for it.

Tell me you are taking the easy conspiracy way out without...
Sadly as an Independent since my first voter registration, who never voted Republican for president but did write in Jesse Jackson instead of Dukakis, Democrats must understand why their history and messages sre not overwhelmingly adopted.

But....they are in the state of VA...which is why Democrats ran the table on basically everything in the 2025 election.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

If this passes and Spanberger and Dems fail to have control, are you ok with GOP renewing/duplicating this amendment? If this passes, there is no going back. You will have given the GOP the keys to the kingdom. Even if the Dems manage to hold and control seats, mark my words, they will not anllow this amendment to expire. One day they will lose, and the GOP will use this with impunity.

I’ve said it before, if you want to take down Trump, you need to hurt him financially (if you can’t jail him.

The good news? Trump is old and can’t live too much longer.

Hope you’re good with that short term gain for long term loss.

Good grief, Republicans are hypocritical. This administration has blown up every norm protecting our democracy and citizens. They expressly stated their goal of picking up 5 Republican seats by redisticting in TX, argue vociferously for the SAVE Act, argue that any election that the Republicans lose must not have been valid, and then claim that the VA vote on redistricting goes to far. 🙄

x1,000 I'm sure people there are paid trolls/influencers here from MAGA. There's new data showing that influencers get paid 10X for GOP content, over Dem content. They are throwing so much cash at the elections because they are scared. Elon just donated $22M to a PAC.

Please take anyone advocating online for anything remotely MAGA that they might be getting paid for it.

Tell me you are taking the easy conspiracy way out without...
Sadly as an Independent since my first voter registration, who never voted Republican for president but did write in Jesse Jackson instead of Dukakis, Democrats must understand why their history and messages sre not overwhelmingly adopted.

At this point, supporting MAGA because you’re getting paid for it, is the most generous reason I can come up with. In this Trump economy, people are getting desperate for jobs.

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I love all the signs I see in Virginia that read "SAY NO TO RIGGED MAPS", no doubt placed there by people who are just fine with Texas's rigged maps.

Hypocrites.

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Democratic candidate for Senate......

I’m going to say this despite what it will do to me politically - I think the Virginia redistricting is extremely anti-democratic and that it is a reactionary policy to Donald Trump that was created by DC consultants…

In 2020, 66% of Virginians voted for bipartisan maps…the new maps slice up Arlington and take away the voice of everyone outside of northern Virginia…

In every local democratic committee I’ve been in, when this issue comes up, nobody can defend it, it’s just “well this is what the party says is best.”

NO. The Democratic Party loses because of reactionary maneuvers and because it doesn’t have a big bold vision for the future.

They say it’s “temporary” but FOUR years of gerrymandering isn’t “temporary” and because I value our constitutional republic over all else…

I’ll be voting NO and I encourage everyone else to, but I can’t hold my tongue any longer despite what this will do to me with the Dems in Virginia

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Democrats know that an informed electorate will never vote to pass this monstrosity.

They are hoping to keep the populace uninformed. Good luck with that.

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Don, five seats isn't going to take back the House. Do the math.

Care to predict the composition of the House in January?

Republicans hold a 2 seat majority.

Want to bet?

Sure. You want the over or the under?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats know that an informed electorate will never vote to pass this monstrosity.

They are hoping to keep the populace uninformed. Good luck with that.

So much projection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love all the signs I see in Virginia that read "SAY NO TO RIGGED MAPS", no doubt placed there by people who are just fine with Texas's rigged maps.

Hypocrites.

Human garbage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.

I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has already allowed the GOP to do this very thing?

I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.

If this passes and Spanberger and Dems fail to have control, are you ok with GOP renewing/duplicating this amendment? If this passes, there is no going back. You will have given the GOP the keys to the kingdom. Even if the Dems manage to hold and control seats, mark my words, they will not anllow this amendment to expire. One day they will lose, and the GOP will use this with impunity.

I’ve said it before, if you want to take down Trump, you need to hurt him financially (if you can’t jail him.

The good news? Trump is old and can’t live too much longer.

Hope you’re good with that short term gain for long term loss.

Good grief, Republicans are hypocritical. This administration has blown up every norm protecting our democracy and citizens. They expressly stated their goal of picking up 5 Republican seats by redisticting in TX, argue vociferously for the SAVE Act, argue that any election that the Republicans lose must not have been valid, and then claim that the VA vote on redistricting goes to far. 🙄

x1,000 I'm sure people there are paid trolls/influencers here from MAGA. There's new data showing that influencers get paid 10X for GOP content, over Dem content. They are throwing so much cash at the elections because they are scared. Elon just donated $22M to a PAC.

Please take anyone advocating online for anything remotely MAGA that they might be getting paid for it.

Tell me you are taking the easy conspiracy way out without...
Sadly as an Independent since my first voter registration, who never voted Republican for president but did write in Jesse Jackson instead of Dukakis, Democrats must understand why their history and messages sre not overwhelmingly adopted.

At this point, supporting MAGA because you’re getting paid for it, is the most generous reason I can come up with. In this Trump economy, people are getting desperate for jobs.

But we need immigrants for the jobs.

We need immigrants for cheap labor for the overlords.

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And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

With all this winning, Democrats still don't control the House or the Senate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

With all this winning, Democrats still don't control the House or the Senate.

Or the Executive Branch. National elections aren’t the Democrats’ friend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

With all this winning, Democrats still don't control the House or the Senate.

Or the Executive Branch. National elections aren’t the Democrats’ friend.

3... 2... 1... Blame gerrymandering.