What happened to W&M, Brandeis, Tulane, Pepperdine and others..from historically T50 to outside looking in?

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Anonymous wrote:The newest research showed around 40% of students now do not use rankings at all. Your old research highlights the direction things are going in (less and less use of rankings every year).

60% do use rankings.

Probably 80% of parents reference college rankings as borne out by the DCUM posts. 🙂

Exactly. It seems there are some parents here who are unable to understand percentages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The newest research showed around 40% of students now do not use rankings at all. Your old research highlights the direction things are going in (less and less use of rankings every year).

You understand that this means 60% of students DO USE RANKINGS?? Right? This is basic math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The newest research showed around 40% of students now do not use rankings at all. Your old research highlights the direction things are going in (less and less use of rankings every year).

60% do use rankings.

Probably 80% of parents reference college rankings as borne out by the DCUM posts. 🙂

Exactly. It seems there are some parents here who are unable to understand percentages.

Such as yourself. This thread is about *individual* *USNWR* ranks.

10% use *individual* ranks. 16% use *US News*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The newest research showed around 40% of students now do not use rankings at all. Your old research highlights the direction things are going in (less and less use of rankings every year).

60% do use rankings.

Probably 80% of parents reference college rankings as borne out by the DCUM posts. 🙂

Exactly. It seems there are some parents here who are unable to understand percentages.

Such as yourself. This thread is about *individual* *USNWR* ranks.

10% use *individual* ranks. 16% use *US News*

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:If this thread is any evidence, students who get into both UVA and WM and choose UVA will just move on with life. Those that choose WM will spend their time justifying their choice.

You could say the same thing about the UVA boosters constantly talking about how it's so much better, how W&M is a safety for UVA, Ivy level, yada yada - if it's clearly better you wouldn't need to rub it in everyone's faces 24/7 esp when the stats don't agree with that. Why does every thread that so much as mentions W&M draw a hoard of haters that make their entire DCUM brand attacking it?

+1
If UVA was that much better they would have 100% submitting test scores and a 1570 median like the ivies but they don't and in fact have the exact same test stats as W&M.

+2. WM is just as good as UVA and we just need to spread the facts to as many people as we can.

My goodness... the insecurity of the UVA and W&M boosters is palpable. No one cares.

Troll

[Anonymous]

Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

DCUM should create its own ranking. It would be very popular with the crowd here and also the cause of many strokes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

+1

I just did a deep dive on UC Merced and it looks pretty amazing. not sure that any other state has created an R2 university anew recently? if you have a kid who wanted to relocate to California and was really into the outdoors and environmental science, it looks really cool. so close to Yosemite!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

+1

I just did a deep dive on UC Merced and it looks pretty amazing. not sure that any other state has created an R2 university anew recently? if you have a kid who wanted to relocate to California and was really into the outdoors and environmental science, it looks really cool. so close to Yosemite!

look you can become a student park ranger! https://ylp.ucmerced.edu/node/161

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

DCUM should create its own ranking. It would be very popular with the crowd here and also the cause of many strokes.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this thread is any evidence, students who get into both UVA and WM and choose UVA will just move on with life. Those that choose WM will spend their time justifying their choice.

You could say the same thing about the UVA boosters constantly talking about how it's so much better, how W&M is a safety for UVA, Ivy level, yada yada - if it's clearly better you wouldn't need to rub it in everyone's faces 24/7 esp when the stats don't agree with that. Why does every thread that so much as mentions W&M draw a hoard of haters that make their entire DCUM brand attacking it?

+1
If UVA was that much better they would have 100% submitting test scores and a 1570 median like the ivies but they don't and in fact have the exact same test stats as W&M.

+2. WM is just as good as UVA and we just need to spread the facts to as many people as we can.

My goodness... the insecurity of the UVA and W&M boosters is palpable. No one cares.

If the premise of the original question weren’t “what happened” to the schools, implying a diminution of quality of education, I might agree with you. But I think that’s an unfair characterization when people are fairly pointing out that the quality is equal to other schools that are ranked higher based on some pretty irrelevant criteria.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

+1

I just did a deep dive on UC Merced and it looks pretty amazing. not sure that any other state has created an R2 university anew recently? if you have a kid who wanted to relocate to California and was really into the outdoors and environmental science, it looks really cool. so close to Yosemite!

Are you okay? You do realize UC Merced has a yield rate of 9%. N...I...N...E percent. No one thinks it is amazing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure people look at rankings, but when they see UC-Merced as a top 60 school, those with any analytical skills realize that the rankings are based on skewed measures. For now greatly skewed by DEI, which is dying as quickly as it arose.

I think the issue with UC Merced is more about people desperate for prestige who misunderstand what a public university is for. UC Merced is public institution for the state of California and is producing great benefits for the state. If you’re a kid from Fresno and want to be a doctor, teacher or nurse it’s amazing. If you are a prestige-addled DMV parent who thinks any UC is more prestigious than VT or UMDBC then you’re just missing the full picture.

+1

I just did a deep dive on UC Merced and it looks pretty amazing. not sure that any other state has created an R2 university anew recently? if you have a kid who wanted to relocate to California and was really into the outdoors and environmental science, it looks really cool. so close to Yosemite!

Are you okay? You do realize UC Merced has a yield rate of 9%. N...I...N...E percent. No one thinks it is amazing.

And less than half of UC Merced students even graduate. It's inclusion as a top 50 university is absurd. Unless your focus is social mobility, the US News rankings are useless presently.