Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

[Anonymous]

Agree. And it is expensive. The best kids don’t do the group drop ins, they get private coaching. The cost is ridiculous. Hate the whole game these trainers play. If my DC weren’t so obsessed with soccer I would drop the whole nepotistic mess in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

0-3 was horrible match bioband kids was useless

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

World Class Premier and other grassroots clubs with excellent coaches

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

0-3 was horrible match bioband kids was useless

Bethesda lost?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

0-3 was horrible match bioband kids was useless

Not the kids fault. Coaching is a joke at this club. BSC uses biobanding as a weapon that always backfires.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

Was that Bratt’s team? Oh no. Brat was banned for coaching older kids. He only coaches his son’s 2015 fourth team

He should not even be allowed around any kids after all the crazy stuff he has done.

[Anonymous]

As a new member of the BSC family, I was initially excited about joining what I believed to be a well-regarded club. However, after attending several practices, I find myself perplexed and concerned about some of the things I’ve observed.

Firstly, I’ve noticed that coaches often seem disengaged during practice sessions. In many instances, they are just standing around, not providing the active guidance and support I expected. When they do speak, it often seems to be just yelling, rather than offering constructive feedback to help the players improve.

Additionally, the coach-to-player ratio seems far from ideal. In an attempt to be proactive, I suggested having a conversation about these issues, hoping we could work together to find solutions. Unfortunately, I was informed with an unsettling response. I was told that if I voiced my concerns, it could be held against my child, potentially affecting their experience and opportunities at the club.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a new member of the BSC family, I was initially excited about joining what I believed to be a well-regarded club. However, after attending several practices, I find myself perplexed and concerned about some of the things I’ve observed.

Firstly, I’ve noticed that coaches often seem disengaged during practice sessions. In many instances, they are just standing around, not providing the active guidance and support I expected. When they do speak, it often seems to be just yelling, rather than offering constructive feedback to help the players improve.

Additionally, the coach-to-player ratio seems far from ideal. In an attempt to be proactive, I suggested having a conversation about these issues, hoping we could work together to find solutions. Unfortunately, I was informed with an unsettling response. I was told that if I voiced my concerns, it could be held against my child, potentially affecting their experience and opportunities at the club.

May I ask what age group? I’m in a similar situation but been around a bit longer than you

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

Parents paying over $1000 a month for kids to train goes to show you how bad they want their daughter to get recuited. Most, not all, aren't very athletic and train and train and train...and now these same people don't want their daughter playing high school soccer because it "sucks". I've seen many of these kids not get recruited, latch on to a roster spot somewhere and never play in college. It's not hard to pick out the good players and most of the good ones can train on their own and not pay a dime to anyone. I know many of these folks that do the individual training and they are killing it $$!