Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Now, those same players, I would argue may not get the same opportunity in Europe if they were coming from MLS academies now, because the MLS academies are demanding money. Why Cavan Sullivan is still at Philly Union. And he is arguably one of our top talents WITH a European passport.

Great information.

If my goal then is to get to Europe and I have a European passport, does it actually make more sense to stay in P2P and move in a free versus dealing with a DCU in this current environment?

1000 percent yes. If Europe is your goal, making that transition as easy as possible should also be the goal. With DCU involved, it makes it more complicated because they will be involved in your transfer and they will make it harder and demand money from the target club. The mission if you stay at P2P is to try to always find the fastest speed of play you can and the highest level possible. Transferring to Europe from P2P is WAY easier than from DCU if your son is at the level. What DCU will never tell you.

How many kids from non MLS clubs are transferring to (big) European clubs?

Is success only Big European clubs? Are you a CEO of a Fortune 500 company? I imagine, you still think you are successful, right, even though you might not be pinnacle elite?

Jumping to a big European club is not the path and it is why so many DCUM kids lose their spots in P2P. They are not willing to fight their way up. The path is to move to a small club, adapt to the culture, speed and technical ability and move upward within the European system.

Your kids are fuc&ed with how cynical and unimaginative some of you people are.

We know two American families in NJ who have trialed in Germany from non-MLS academies. One got an offer. The parents were using it as a gauge.

There are three sets of parents from the DMV with kids under 16 overseas. There are ways around the visa requirements if you have financial means and stay under the radar.

Doesn't sound like a transfer then

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Anonymous wrote:Now, those same players, I would argue may not get the same opportunity in Europe if they were coming from MLS academies now, because the MLS academies are demanding money. Why Cavan Sullivan is still at Philly Union. And he is arguably one of our top talents WITH a European passport.

Great information.

If my goal then is to get to Europe and I have a European passport, does it actually make more sense to stay in P2P and move in a free versus dealing with a DCU in this current environment?

1000 percent yes. If Europe is your goal, making that transition as easy as possible should also be the goal. With DCU involved, it makes it more complicated because they will be involved in your transfer and they will make it harder and demand money from the target club. The mission if you stay at P2P is to try to always find the fastest speed of play you can and the highest level possible. Transferring to Europe from P2P is WAY easier than from DCU if your son is at the level. What DCU will never tell you.

It must be interesting to see the negotiations between a P2P like a Bethesda or Maryland United and Real Madrid

This is where your sarcasm looks ridiculous because even in jest, you prove the point. There would never be a negotiation because no international club would need to negotiate with them. They would just sign the player unrestricted. And your prior post about how many times does a scenario like this play out is completely irrelevant. It doesn't play out as much as it should because most parents don't have the knowledge about how the international system works and just follow the crowd in the US and they make decisions that lessen their kids chances of international level football. .

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Anonymous wrote:How difficult is it to justify you are moving for non-soccer related reasons? Isn’t having a European passport reason enough?

No having a European passport is not enough. You need to show FIFA that you have a job in the country or a significant Nexus to the country requiring you to be there. If you have a job they will require documentation of that job ie the contract and the terms. It is not that easy actually. If you don't have a job it is extremely difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes agree this is exactly how my kids club is. Highly highly driven and competitive kids; they train all summer and practice 4xweek 4 hour practices all year plus extra in weekends. It’s insane. Most of the kids play for 3-4 teams at the club; for their age and also play up. We don’t like it. But it’s real!!

What age group? Maybe a bit older than the 7-11 range? My philosophy has been “less is more” so far because I just want my kid to have fun.

Explain how less is more = fun

Less of a sport they love or a sport they hate but you are forcing them to do it?

Only 10, loves soccer, not soccer obsessed. Wants to play baseball, basketball, flag football, wrestling plus things like camping and fishing. I think having other interests and not being completely focused on soccer 24/7/365 at this age will actually help in the long run both as a person and player/athlete.

Why do people try to mix kids into recreational soccer with kids serious about excelling at top tier soccer levels in the same conversation thread?

It's fine to want to be Jack of all trades and dabble in everything being master of none.
No one expects dedication in any of the disciplines.

Nope, same kid is one of the best players on the top team.

i think there are different paths for different players. Some may thrive playing multiple sports because they have the drive and natural ability to excel at all of them. At younger ages this is a good thing. Some may be better off specializing at a younger age because they are only really interested in that sport, may not be naturally talented and need to put in the time, or maybe they are trying to keep up with everyone else in their peer group who is doing the same thing. Alot of variables. What is consistent is what works for one kid may not work for the other. Find what works for you and stick with that. Keep a laser focus on your end game. What do you want to do with the sport or sports in general? This will determine your path. Youth soccer in this country is geared toward college for boys and girls anyway. The system is built to produce those level players. If you're thinking of pro soccer, I'm sorry to tell you, you're in the wrong country for that. Not enough experience or knowledge in this country in the sport. Not impossible here but compared to Europe or South America, really difficult. Just on the lack of quality coaches alone.

I've not heard of a top MLS Club academy or International academy player over U13 who plays multiple sports

Several players from the US are playing professionally in Europe.
It's for the exceptional, not the masses.

It's difficult to make it for everyone, but yes Europe, Africa and South America developed has advantages over us

. Pretty sure if you read the prior post it said at younger ages playing multiple sports is good. As the kids get older decisions have to be made. You saying it is for the exceptional not the masses is like saying the sky is blue. Exceptional players do exceptional things on and off the field to be exceptional. If you're doing what everyone else does, by default, you're not exceptional. Exceptional here in the US is not exceptional in Europe or South America. Players here run hard, are usually bigger and some have decent ball skills but most lack significant game IQ and decision making because there aren't enough people who have enough high level experience to teach them that. They are levels to the sport.

The bottom line is that if you want to excel at anything you can't get around putting in the time. There is just no other way. If your player truly wants to be exceptional, they won't burnout mentally. Physical burnout will depend on the training frequency and if it is adequately matched to their current physical ability.
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Are you saying there aren't American players playing in top European leagues?

Or are you saying everyone else playing in English, Spanish, French, German, Italian leagues are exceptional, except Americans?

1. We are talking about youth players

2. Obviously there are Americans playing in top European leagues.

3. What we consider an exceptional player here would probably not be exceptional in Europe where the standards are higher and there are more high caliber players.

Exceptional players leave America and are at European top leagues
So they are not exceptional in your opinion, but obviously Exceptional to be chosen at those clubs over European, African and South American players trying to get same spots.

Shows how little you know about how international football works and how Americans started to become more prominent overseas. You think the top Americans got picked up because they were far better than European or South American players??? They weren't. They had decent talent for sure but what got them opportunity overseas wasn't talent alone, it was because they were free. The European clubs are always searching for an edge. Americans provided that edge starting about 10 or so years ago, particularly in Germany where the immigration rules were less stringent than other countries and the style of play suited American players because the Germans valued size and speed quite a bit. They argued...If we can find a player that is close or maybe a little better than the domestic talent we have in Europe AND they are free, we can control.their development in our far superior system AND retain ALL the money on their sale. Since the US didn't agree to FIFA solidarity payments and training compensation rules until.2022 American players started to become.favored for this reason. This is also exactly why the MLS and the USSF started to agree to the FIFA rules because they realized they were losing out on a ton of money as well as losing their talent. The players that made moves to Europe DEVELOPED into exceptional European players while overseas. Pulisic didn't walk into Dortmund and start dominating overnight. Believe that. Neither did McKinnie at Schalke or Weah at PSV youth or Gio Reyna or Chris Richards at Bayern. Take a kid like Cavan Sullivan one of our more promising youth players. 10 years ago, Man City would have just brought him in house at 15 and they would've gotten around immigration rules. Today, because Philly wanted money for him, they were like cool, you develop him, if he is at the level at 18, we will take.him, if not all good you keep him. His deal isn't finalized until he is 18. Alot can happen between now and then. It's all about money. If he was far better than their domestic talent, they would take him right away. Period. So again, good players in the US, develop into exceptional players when transferred overseas. Why a player we consider exceptional here may not be overseas. Until they spend time overseas.

Are you done with your incomprehensible run-on sentence yet?

So you're saying the big rich clubs in Europe are choosing American players over European, African and South American better players because it's cheaper and winning isn't the priority?

You're dumb. They WERE choosing equivalent or slightly better American players over European counterparts because the European players were more costly. American players were free. Not so much anymore coming from MLS academies.

When the argument is lost, the defeated and weak turn to name calling

Can you produce copies of these Free Contracts the US players in Europe are signing? lol

You must be feeling real stupid right about now...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now, those same players, I would argue may not get the same opportunity in Europe if they were coming from MLS academies now, because the MLS academies are demanding money. Why Cavan Sullivan is still at Philly Union. And he is arguably one of our top talents WITH a European passport.

Great information.

If my goal then is to get to Europe and I have a European passport, does it actually make more sense to stay in P2P and move in a free versus dealing with a DCU in this current environment?

1000 percent yes. If Europe is your goal, making that transition as easy as possible should also be the goal. With DCU involved, it makes it more complicated because they will be involved in your transfer and they will make it harder and demand money from the target club. The mission if you stay at P2P is to try to always find the fastest speed of play you can and the highest level possible. Transferring to Europe from P2P is WAY easier than from DCU if your son is at the level. What DCU will never tell you.

It must be interesting to see the negotiations between a P2P like a Bethesda or Maryland United and Real Madrid

This is where your sarcasm looks ridiculous because even in jest, you prove the point. There would never be a negotiation because no international club would need to negotiate with them. They would just sign the player unrestricted. And your prior post about how many times does a scenario like this play out is completely irrelevant. It doesn't play out as much as it should because most parents don't have the knowledge about how the international system works and just follow the crowd in the US and they make decisions that lessen their kids chances of international level football. .

The last two pages of this thread are gems that parents who have academy level kids should pay attention to. Crazy that people aren’t just absorbing the knowledge and learning now to make the system work in their favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gio Reyna. Free transfer from NYCFC to Dortmund.

https://www.transfermarkt.it/giovanni-reyna/profil/spieler/504215

All three of the transfers shown in prior posts support the argument made. Americans were free and Germany was looking for and acquiring Americans at a more rapid clip than other countries.

>>"Several notable soccer players were free agents in 2024, including Kylian Mbappé, Adrien Rabiot, and Luka Modrić. Other players like Valentín Barco, Piotr Zielinski, Lloyd Kelly, Eric Dier, and Thiago also saw their contracts expire, making them potential free transfers, according to ESPN.
Here's a more detailed look at some of them:

Kylian Mbappé:
A highly sought-after player whose contract with Paris Saint-Germain expired.

Adrien Rabiot:
His Juventus contract was extended for a year, but he remained a player with a decision to make about his long-term future.

Luka Modrić:
The Real Madrid midfielder's contract also expired, making him a free agent.
Valentín Barco:
A young left-back with Boca Juniors, whose contract was expiring in December 2024, attracting interest from several top clubs.

Piotr Zielinski:
A key player for Napoli, whose contract was expiring and he was reportedly seeking a wage increase.

Lloyd Kelly:
A versatile defender for Bournemouth, who could have left on a free transfer after a transfer offer from Tottenham was rejected.

Eric Dier:
Seemed to be out of favor at Tottenham, making him a potential free agent.

Thiago: ... "<<<

MULTIPLE PLAYERS EVERY YEAR FOR DIFFERENT REASONS MOVE FROM CLUB TO CLUB ON FREE TRANFERS

Not just Americans, Dunce.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes agree this is exactly how my kids club is. Highly highly driven and competitive kids; they train all summer and practice 4xweek 4 hour practices all year plus extra in weekends. It’s insane. Most of the kids play for 3-4 teams at the club; for their age and also play up. We don’t like it. But it’s real!!

What age group? Maybe a bit older than the 7-11 range? My philosophy has been “less is more” so far because I just want my kid to have fun.

Explain how less is more = fun

Less of a sport they love or a sport they hate but you are forcing them to do it?

Only 10, loves soccer, not soccer obsessed. Wants to play baseball, basketball, flag football, wrestling plus things like camping and fishing. I think having other interests and not being completely focused on soccer 24/7/365 at this age will actually help in the long run both as a person and player/athlete.

Why do people try to mix kids into recreational soccer with kids serious about excelling at top tier soccer levels in the same conversation thread?

It's fine to want to be Jack of all trades and dabble in everything being master of none.
No one expects dedication in any of the disciplines.

Nope, same kid is one of the best players on the top team.

i think there are different paths for different players. Some may thrive playing multiple sports because they have the drive and natural ability to excel at all of them. At younger ages this is a good thing. Some may be better off specializing at a younger age because they are only really interested in that sport, may not be naturally talented and need to put in the time, or maybe they are trying to keep up with everyone else in their peer group who is doing the same thing. Alot of variables. What is consistent is what works for one kid may not work for the other. Find what works for you and stick with that. Keep a laser focus on your end game. What do you want to do with the sport or sports in general? This will determine your path. Youth soccer in this country is geared toward college for boys and girls anyway. The system is built to produce those level players. If you're thinking of pro soccer, I'm sorry to tell you, you're in the wrong country for that. Not enough experience or knowledge in this country in the sport. Not impossible here but compared to Europe or South America, really difficult. Just on the lack of quality coaches alone.

I've not heard of a top MLS Club academy or International academy player over U13 who plays multiple sports

Several players from the US are playing professionally in Europe.
It's for the exceptional, not the masses.

It's difficult to make it for everyone, but yes Europe, Africa and South America developed has advantages over us

. Pretty sure if you read the prior post it said at younger ages playing multiple sports is good. As the kids get older decisions have to be made. You saying it is for the exceptional not the masses is like saying the sky is blue. Exceptional players do exceptional things on and off the field to be exceptional. If you're doing what everyone else does, by default, you're not exceptional. Exceptional here in the US is not exceptional in Europe or South America. Players here run hard, are usually bigger and some have decent ball skills but most lack significant game IQ and decision making because there aren't enough people who have enough high level experience to teach them that. They are levels to the sport.

The bottom line is that if you want to excel at anything you can't get around putting in the time. There is just no other way. If your player truly wants to be exceptional, they won't burnout mentally. Physical burnout will depend on the training frequency and if it is adequately matched to their current physical ability.
.

Are you saying there aren't American players playing in top European leagues?

Or are you saying everyone else playing in English, Spanish, French, German, Italian leagues are exceptional, except Americans?

1. We are talking about youth players

2. Obviously there are Americans playing in top European leagues.

3. What we consider an exceptional player here would probably not be exceptional in Europe where the standards are higher and there are more high caliber players.

Exceptional players leave America and are at European top leagues
So they are not exceptional in your opinion, but obviously Exceptional to be chosen at those clubs over European, African and South American players trying to get same spots.

Shows how little you know about how international football works and how Americans started to become more prominent overseas. You think the top Americans got picked up because they were far better than European or South American players??? They weren't. They had decent talent for sure but what got them opportunity overseas wasn't talent alone, it was because they were free. The European clubs are always searching for an edge. Americans provided that edge starting about 10 or so years ago, particularly in Germany where the immigration rules were less stringent than other countries and the style of play suited American players because the Germans valued size and speed quite a bit. They argued...If we can find a player that is close or maybe a little better than the domestic talent we have in Europe AND they are free, we can control.their development in our far superior system AND retain ALL the money on their sale. Since the US didn't agree to FIFA solidarity payments and training compensation rules until.2022 American players started to become.favored for this reason. This is also exactly why the MLS and the USSF started to agree to the FIFA rules because they realized they were losing out on a ton of money as well as losing their talent. The players that made moves to Europe DEVELOPED into exceptional European players while overseas. Pulisic didn't walk into Dortmund and start dominating overnight. Believe that. Neither did McKinnie at Schalke or Weah at PSV youth or Gio Reyna or Chris Richards at Bayern. Take a kid like Cavan Sullivan one of our more promising youth players. 10 years ago, Man City would have just brought him in house at 15 and they would've gotten around immigration rules. Today, because Philly wanted money for him, they were like cool, you develop him, if he is at the level at 18, we will take.him, if not all good you keep him. His deal isn't finalized until he is 18. Alot can happen between now and then. It's all about money. If he was far better than their domestic talent, they would take him right away. Period. So again, good players in the US, develop into exceptional players when transferred overseas. Why a player we consider exceptional here may not be overseas. Until they spend time overseas.

Are you done with your incomprehensible run-on sentence yet?

So you're saying the big rich clubs in Europe are choosing American players over European, African and South American better players because it's cheaper and winning isn't the priority?

You're dumb. They WERE choosing equivalent or slightly better American players over European counterparts because the European players were more costly. American players were free. Not so much anymore coming from MLS academies.

When the argument is lost, the defeated and weak turn to name calling

Can you produce copies of these Free Contracts the US players in Europe are signing? lol

You must be feeling real stupid right about now...

Oh, wait, look at all the Non Americans on FREE Transfers

https://www.premierleague.com/en/news/4323817/the-major-players-available-on-a-free-transfer-this-summer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pulisic. Free transfer from PA Classics to Dortmund

https://www.transfermarkt.com/christian-pulisic/profil/spieler/315779

Was it a free transfer to Chelsea or AC Milan?
Since the big clubs only take Free Americans

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pulisic. Free transfer from PA Classics to Dortmund

https://www.transfermarkt.com/christian-pulisic/profil/spieler/315779

Was it a free transfer to Chelsea or AC Milan?
Since the big clubs only take Free Americans

We are taking about youth players genius.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes agree this is exactly how my kids club is. Highly highly driven and competitive kids; they train all summer and practice 4xweek 4 hour practices all year plus extra in weekends. It’s insane. Most of the kids play for 3-4 teams at the club; for their age and also play up. We don’t like it. But it’s real!!

What age group? Maybe a bit older than the 7-11 range? My philosophy has been “less is more” so far because I just want my kid to have fun.

Explain how less is more = fun

Less of a sport they love or a sport they hate but you are forcing them to do it?

Only 10, loves soccer, not soccer obsessed. Wants to play baseball, basketball, flag football, wrestling plus things like camping and fishing. I think having other interests and not being completely focused on soccer 24/7/365 at this age will actually help in the long run both as a person and player/athlete.

Why do people try to mix kids into recreational soccer with kids serious about excelling at top tier soccer levels in the same conversation thread?

It's fine to want to be Jack of all trades and dabble in everything being master of none.
No one expects dedication in any of the disciplines.

Nope, same kid is one of the best players on the top team.

i think there are different paths for different players. Some may thrive playing multiple sports because they have the drive and natural ability to excel at all of them. At younger ages this is a good thing. Some may be better off specializing at a younger age because they are only really interested in that sport, may not be naturally talented and need to put in the time, or maybe they are trying to keep up with everyone else in their peer group who is doing the same thing. Alot of variables. What is consistent is what works for one kid may not work for the other. Find what works for you and stick with that. Keep a laser focus on your end game. What do you want to do with the sport or sports in general? This will determine your path. Youth soccer in this country is geared toward college for boys and girls anyway. The system is built to produce those level players. If you're thinking of pro soccer, I'm sorry to tell you, you're in the wrong country for that. Not enough experience or knowledge in this country in the sport. Not impossible here but compared to Europe or South America, really difficult. Just on the lack of quality coaches alone.

I've not heard of a top MLS Club academy or International academy player over U13 who plays multiple sports

Several players from the US are playing professionally in Europe.
It's for the exceptional, not the masses.

It's difficult to make it for everyone, but yes Europe, Africa and South America developed has advantages over us

. Pretty sure if you read the prior post it said at younger ages playing multiple sports is good. As the kids get older decisions have to be made. You saying it is for the exceptional not the masses is like saying the sky is blue. Exceptional players do exceptional things on and off the field to be exceptional. If you're doing what everyone else does, by default, you're not exceptional. Exceptional here in the US is not exceptional in Europe or South America. Players here run hard, are usually bigger and some have decent ball skills but most lack significant game IQ and decision making because there aren't enough people who have enough high level experience to teach them that. They are levels to the sport.

The bottom line is that if you want to excel at anything you can't get around putting in the time. There is just no other way. If your player truly wants to be exceptional, they won't burnout mentally. Physical burnout will depend on the training frequency and if it is adequately matched to their current physical ability.
.

Are you saying there aren't American players playing in top European leagues?

Or are you saying everyone else playing in English, Spanish, French, German, Italian leagues are exceptional, except Americans?

1. We are talking about youth players

2. Obviously there are Americans playing in top European leagues.

3. What we consider an exceptional player here would probably not be exceptional in Europe where the standards are higher and there are more high caliber players.

Exceptional players leave America and are at European top leagues
So they are not exceptional in your opinion, but obviously Exceptional to be chosen at those clubs over European, African and South American players trying to get same spots.

Shows how little you know about how international football works and how Americans started to become more prominent overseas. You think the top Americans got picked up because they were far better than European or South American players??? They weren't. They had decent talent for sure but what got them opportunity overseas wasn't talent alone, it was because they were free. The European clubs are always searching for an edge. Americans provided that edge starting about 10 or so years ago, particularly in Germany where the immigration rules were less stringent than other countries and the style of play suited American players because the Germans valued size and speed quite a bit. They argued...If we can find a player that is close or maybe a little better than the domestic talent we have in Europe AND they are free, we can control.their development in our far superior system AND retain ALL the money on their sale. Since the US didn't agree to FIFA solidarity payments and training compensation rules until.2022 American players started to become.favored for this reason. This is also exactly why the MLS and the USSF started to agree to the FIFA rules because they realized they were losing out on a ton of money as well as losing their talent. The players that made moves to Europe DEVELOPED into exceptional European players while overseas. Pulisic didn't walk into Dortmund and start dominating overnight. Believe that. Neither did McKinnie at Schalke or Weah at PSV youth or Gio Reyna or Chris Richards at Bayern. Take a kid like Cavan Sullivan one of our more promising youth players. 10 years ago, Man City would have just brought him in house at 15 and they would've gotten around immigration rules. Today, because Philly wanted money for him, they were like cool, you develop him, if he is at the level at 18, we will take.him, if not all good you keep him. His deal isn't finalized until he is 18. Alot can happen between now and then. It's all about money. If he was far better than their domestic talent, they would take him right away. Period. So again, good players in the US, develop into exceptional players when transferred overseas. Why a player we consider exceptional here may not be overseas. Until they spend time overseas.

Are you done with your incomprehensible run-on sentence yet?

So you're saying the big rich clubs in Europe are choosing American players over European, African and South American better players because it's cheaper and winning isn't the priority?

You're dumb. They WERE choosing equivalent or slightly better American players over European counterparts because the European players were more costly. American players were free. Not so much anymore coming from MLS academies.

When the argument is lost, the defeated and weak turn to name calling

Can you produce copies of these Free Contracts the US players in Europe are signing? lol

You must be feeling real stupid right about now...

Oh, wait, look at all the Non Americans on FREE Transfers

https://www.premierleague.com/en/news/4323817/the-major-players-available-on-a-free-transfer-this-summer

This whole thread is about youth soccer. You're lost bro...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gio Reyna. Free transfer from NYCFC to Dortmund.

https://www.transfermarkt.it/giovanni-reyna/profil/spieler/504215

All three of the transfers shown in prior posts support the argument made. Americans were free and Germany was looking for and acquiring Americans at a more rapid clip than other countries.

>>"Several notable soccer players were free agents in 2024, including Kylian Mbappé, Adrien Rabiot, and Luka Modrić. Other players like Valentín Barco, Piotr Zielinski, Lloyd Kelly, Eric Dier, and Thiago also saw their contracts expire, making them potential free transfers, according to ESPN.
Here's a more detailed look at some of them:

Kylian Mbappé:
A highly sought-after player whose contract with Paris Saint-Germain expired.

Adrien Rabiot:
His Juventus contract was extended for a year, but he remained a player with a decision to make about his long-term future.

Luka Modrić:
The Real Madrid midfielder's contract also expired, making him a free agent.
Valentín Barco:
A young left-back with Boca Juniors, whose contract was expiring in December 2024, attracting interest from several top clubs.

Piotr Zielinski:
A key player for Napoli, whose contract was expiring and he was reportedly seeking a wage increase.

Lloyd Kelly:
A versatile defender for Bournemouth, who could have left on a free transfer after a transfer offer from Tottenham was rejected.

Eric Dier:
Seemed to be out of favor at Tottenham, making him a potential free agent.

Thiago: ... "<<<

MULTIPLE PLAYERS EVERY YEAR FOR DIFFERENT REASONS MOVE FROM CLUB TO CLUB ON FREE TRANFERS

Not just Americans, Dunce.

No sh#t. YOUTH PLAYERS EINSTEIN. YOUTH PLAYERS... Of course pro players sign on free deals. You on here taking.about the obvious pros signing free deals and everyone else is talking.about youth players. Go somewhere else where you can follow along. This is too Complicated for you.

[Anonymous]

We are talking.ablut when Americans transfer abroad AS YOUTH PLAYRTS. Man, you did all that homework trying to learn about free transfers for nothing. Too bad...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How difficult is it to justify you are moving for non-soccer related reasons? Isn’t having a European passport reason enough?

No having a European passport is not enough. You need to show FIFA that you have a job in the country or a significant Nexus to the country requiring you to be there. If you have a job they will require documentation of that job ie the contract and the terms. It is not that easy actually. If you don't have a job it is extremely difficult.

This is not true. Having European citizenship is absolutely enough. Show us how that’s not true with sources or don’t say it.

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Anonymous wrote:We are talking.ablut when Americans transfer abroad AS YOUTH PLAYRTS. Man, you did all that homework trying to learn about free transfers for nothing. Too bad...

So European clubs take free transfer Americans who aren't good just because they're free
But the Europeans who are free transfer are good?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Gio Reyna. Free transfer from NYCFC to Dortmund.

https://www.transfermarkt.it/giovanni-reyna/profil/spieler/504215

All three of the transfers shown in prior posts support the argument made. Americans were free and Germany was looking for and acquiring Americans at a more rapid clip than other countries.

>>"Several notable soccer players were free agents in 2024, including Kylian Mbappé, Adrien Rabiot, and Luka Modrić. Other players like Valentín Barco, Piotr Zielinski, Lloyd Kelly, Eric Dier, and Thiago also saw their contracts expire, making them potential free transfers, according to ESPN.
Here's a more detailed look at some of them:

Kylian Mbappé:
A highly sought-after player whose contract with Paris Saint-Germain expired.

Adrien Rabiot:
His Juventus contract was extended for a year, but he remained a player with a decision to make about his long-term future.

Luka Modrić:
The Real Madrid midfielder's contract also expired, making him a free agent.
Valentín Barco:
A young left-back with Boca Juniors, whose contract was expiring in December 2024, attracting interest from several top clubs.

Piotr Zielinski:
A key player for Napoli, whose contract was expiring and he was reportedly seeking a wage increase.

Lloyd Kelly:
A versatile defender for Bournemouth, who could have left on a free transfer after a transfer offer from Tottenham was rejected.

Eric Dier:
Seemed to be out of favor at Tottenham, making him a potential free agent.

Thiago: ... "<<<

MULTIPLE PLAYERS EVERY YEAR FOR DIFFERENT REASONS MOVE FROM CLUB TO CLUB ON FREE TRANFERS

Not just Americans, Dunce.

No sh#t. YOUTH PLAYERS EINSTEIN. YOUTH PLAYERS... Of course pro players sign on free deals. You on here taking.about the obvious pros signing free deals and everyone else is talking.about youth players. Go somewhere else where you can follow along. This is too Complicated for you.

Mbappe was free transfer to Monaco from AS Bondy
Free loan transfer to PSG before transfer fee later
Free transfer to Real Madrid