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07/24/2025 23:43

Subject: Re:Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Yes agree this is exactly how my kids club is. Highly highly driven and competitive kids; they train all summer and practice 4xweek 4 hour practices all year plus extra in weekends. It’s insane. Most of the kids play for 3-4 teams at the club; for their age and also play up. We don’t like it. But it’s real!!

What age group? Maybe a bit older than the 7-11 range? My philosophy has been “less is more” so far because I just want my kid to have fun.

Explain how less is more = fun

Less of a sport they love or a sport they hate but you are forcing them to do it?

Only 10, loves soccer, not soccer obsessed. Wants to play baseball, basketball, flag football, wrestling plus things like camping and fishing. I think having other interests and not being completely focused on soccer 24/7/365 at this age will actually help in the long run both as a person and player/athlete.

Why do people try to mix kids into recreational soccer with kids serious about excelling at top tier soccer levels in the same conversation thread?

It's fine to want to be Jack of all trades and dabble in everything being master of none.
No one expects dedication in any of the disciplines.

Nope, same kid is one of the best players on the top team.

i think there are different paths for different players. Some may thrive playing multiple sports because they have the drive and natural ability to excel at all of them. At younger ages this is a good thing. Some may be better off specializing at a younger age because they are only really interested in that sport, may not be naturally talented and need to put in the time, or maybe they are trying to keep up with everyone else in their peer group who is doing the same thing. Alot of variables. What is consistent is what works for one kid may not work for the other. Find what works for you and stick with that. Keep a laser focus on your end game. What do you want to do with the sport or sports in general? This will determine your path. Youth soccer in this country is geared toward college for boys and girls anyway. The system is built to produce those level players. If you're thinking of pro soccer, I'm sorry to tell you, you're in the wrong country for that. Not enough experience or knowledge in this country in the sport. Not impossible here but compared to Europe or South America, really difficult. Just on the lack of quality coaches alone.

I've not heard of a top MLS Club academy or International academy player over U13 who plays multiple sports

Several players from the US are playing professionally in Europe.
It's for the exceptional, not the masses.

It's difficult to make it for everyone, but yes Europe, Africa and South America developed has advantages over us

. Pretty sure if you read the prior post it said at younger ages playing multiple sports is good. As the kids get older decisions have to be made. You saying it is for the exceptional not the masses is like saying the sky is blue. Exceptional players do exceptional things on and off the field to be exceptional. If you're doing what everyone else does, by default, you're not exceptional. Exceptional here in the US is not exceptional in Europe or South America. Players here run hard, are usually bigger and some have decent ball skills but most lack significant game IQ and decision making because there aren't enough people who have enough high level experience to teach them that. They are levels to the sport.

The bottom line is that if you want to excel at anything you can't get around putting in the time. There is just no other way. If your player truly wants to be exceptional, they won't burnout mentally. Physical burnout will depend on the training frequency and if it is adequately matched to their current physical ability.
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Are you saying there aren't American players playing in top European leagues?

Or are you saying everyone else playing in English, Spanish, French, German, Italian leagues are exceptional, except Americans?

1. We are talking about youth players

2. Obviously there are Americans playing in top European leagues.

3. What we consider an exceptional player here would probably not be exceptional in Europe where the standards are higher and there are more high caliber players.

Exceptional players leave America and are at European top leagues
So they are not exceptional in your opinion, but obviously Exceptional to be chosen at those clubs over European, African and South American players trying to get same spots.

Shows how little you know about how international football works and how Americans started to become more prominent overseas. You think the top Americans got picked up because they were far better than European or South American players??? They weren't. They had decent talent for sure but what got them opportunity overseas wasn't talent alone, it was because they were free. The European clubs are always searching for an edge. Americans provided that edge starting about 10 or so years ago, particularly in Germany where the immigration rules were less stringent than other countries and the style of play suited American players because the Germans valued size and speed quite a bit. They argued...If we can find a player that is close or maybe a little better than the domestic talent we have in Europe AND they are free, we can control.their development in our far superior system AND retain ALL the money on their sale. Since the US didn't agree to FIFA solidarity payments and training compensation rules until.2022 American players started to become.favored for this reason. This is also exactly why the MLS and the USSF started to agree to the FIFA rules because they realized they were losing out on a ton of money as well as losing their talent. The players that made moves to Europe DEVELOPED into exceptional European players while overseas. Pulisic didn't walk into Dortmund and start dominating overnight. Believe that. Neither did McKinnie at Schalke or Weah at PSV youth or Gio Reyna or Chris Richards at Bayern. Take a kid like Cavan Sullivan one of our more promising youth players. 10 years ago, Man City would have just brought him in house at 15 and they would've gotten around immigration rules. Today, because Philly wanted money for him, they were like cool, you develop him, if he is at the level at 18, we will take.him, if not all good you keep him. His deal isn't finalized until he is 18. Alot can happen between now and then. It's all about money. If he was far better than their domestic talent, they would take him right away. Period. So again, good players in the US, develop into exceptional players when transferred overseas. Why a player we consider exceptional here may not be overseas. Until they spend time overseas.

Are you done with your incomprehensible run-on sentence yet?

So you're saying the big rich clubs in Europe are choosing American players over European, African and South American better players because it's cheaper and winning isn't the priority?

You're dumb. They WERE choosing equivalent or slightly better American players over European counterparts because the European players were more costly. American players were free. Not so much anymore coming from MLS academies.

When the argument is lost, the defeated and weak turn to name calling

Can you produce copies of these Free Contracts the US players in Europe are signing? lol

Can you produce anything to prove the PP wrong? Very easy to be contrarian but much harder to advance an argument yourself. The PP presented a very logical and cogent explanation of why Americans gained prominence overseas. You're asking to produce the contracts??? Are you serious?? It's public find them yourself.