Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

I thought people did private training outside their club because they had drive and motivation to develop into strong players.

Coaches are coaching a team of players. They don't have enough time to give all the kids the personal attention to their individual development.

Just like school, the ones who do the most at home excel the most.

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The problem with Club supported private training is that it makes the Coaches not work on skills at all. Plus conflicts of interest.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

Parents paying over $1000 a month for kids to train goes to show you how bad they want their daughter to get recuited. Most, not all, aren't very athletic and train and train and train...and now these same people don't want their daughter playing high school soccer because it "sucks". I've seen many of these kids not get recruited, latch on to a roster spot somewhere and never play in college. It's not hard to pick out the good players and most of the good ones can train on their own and not pay a dime to anyone. I know many of these folks that do the individual training and they are killing it $$!

The shinier and more hype the private business, the more folks are lined up throwing wallets at them 😂

I know of a coach who is a no-name that has sent 100% of their private trainees from small grassroots to MLS Next teams and Professional Academies.
No frills. No fancy surroundings. No super fancy equipment. Cheap

Coaches like that aren't desired by the masses in the DMV

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

The PG way

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

Pay to play at its maximum expression. Thanks for your honesty

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

I thought people did private training outside their club because they had drive and motivation to develop into strong players.

Coaches are coaching a team of players. They don't have enough time to give all the kids the personal attention to their individual development.

Just like in school, the ones who do the most at home excel the most.

Come on we all have kids in the system. Coaches don't have time pay attention to kids individual development is BS. Then what are paying for team success lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

Was that Bratt’s team? Oh no. Brat was banned for coaching older kids. He only coaches his son’s 2015 fourth team

at least he didn't put his son in the first team as his bro did

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

I thought people did private training outside their club because they had drive and motivation to develop into strong players.

Coaches are coaching a team of players. They don't have enough time to give all the kids the personal attention to their individual development.

Just like in school, the ones who do the most at home excel the most.

Come on we all have kids in the system. Coaches don't have time pay attention to kids individual development is BS. Then what are paying for team success lol.

Well, we know you're not a coach or familiar with training sessions for 15 or 20 kids

Also, the moment a U8 to U10 coach seriously started focusing solely on development of individuals to the detriment of W's parents are in uproar and mass migration begins

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Anonymous wrote:Hi Bethesda folks who may be reading this thread. Does anyone know the score of the U15 (2010) match against Real Jersey from the past weekend? It's the only age group not posted.

Was that Bratt’s team? Oh no. Brat was banned for coaching older kids. He only coaches his son’s 2015 fourth team

at least he didn't put his son in the first team as his bro did

Lol JC’s club, board and team. Deal with it! But all jokes aside the moves JC pulled with that group were pretty bad.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

Parents paying over $1000 a month for kids to train goes to show you how bad they want their daughter to get recuited. Most, not all, aren't very athletic and train and train and train...and now these same people don't want their daughter playing high school soccer because it "sucks". I've seen many of these kids not get recruited, latch on to a roster spot somewhere and never play in college. It's not hard to pick out the good players and most of the good ones can train on their own and not pay a dime to anyone. I know many of these folks that do the individual training and they are killing it $$!

The shinier and more hype the private business, the more folks are lined up throwing wallets at them 😂

I know of a coach who is a no-name that has sent 100% of their private trainees from small grassroots to MLS Next teams and Professional Academies.
No frills. No fancy surroundings. No super fancy equipment. Cheap

Coaches like that aren't desired by the masses in the DMV

This^^^

And like a great restaurant, you want to tell enough people about them so they stay in business, but not so many that you can’t get a table anymore.

I think all these complaints are because people have a mismatch of expectations from the club and their kids performance.

Almost every club I know of send an email a couple times a season it says just doing the practices with the club is not enough to have success. And almost every Baller I know or my kid knows that’s of quality is doing significant training outside the club. Some at home, some with trainers, some with small groups, some with structured groups (commercialized), etc.

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Anonymous wrote:As a new member of the BSC family, I was initially excited about joining what I believed to be a well-regarded club. However, after attending several practices, I find myself perplexed and concerned about some of the things I’ve observed.

Firstly, I’ve noticed that coaches often seem disengaged during practice sessions. In many instances, they are just standing around, not providing the active guidance and support I expected. When they do speak, it often seems to be just yelling, rather than offering constructive feedback to help the players improve.

Additionally, the coach-to-player ratio seems far from ideal. In an attempt to be proactive, I suggested having a conversation about these issues, hoping we could work together to find solutions. Unfortunately, I was informed with an unsettling response. I was told that if I voiced my concerns, it could be held against my child, potentially affecting their experience and opportunities at the club.

Wait for your first road trip when the hiearchies become deeply apparent, its a blast! But your winning so its awesome, right?

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

I thought people did private training outside their club because they had drive and motivation to develop into strong players.

Coaches are coaching a team of players. They don't have enough time to give all the kids the personal attention to their individual development.

Just like in school, the ones who do the most at home excel the most.

Come on we all have kids in the system. Coaches don't have time pay attention to kids individual development is BS. Then what are paying for team success lol.

Well, we know you're not a coach or familiar with training sessions for 15 or 20 kids

Also, the moment a U8 to U10 coach seriously started focusing solely on development of individuals to the detriment of W's parents are in uproar and mass migration begins

This whole thread also has parents complaining about coaches not developing kids.

My thesis of this case is that parents are more invested in their dreams for their kid than the kids are in those dreams.

Of course the coach and the club have zero investment in the parent dream for the kid, they can’t.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

Parents paying over $1000 a month for kids to train goes to show you how bad they want their daughter to get recuited. Most, not all, aren't very athletic and train and train and train...and now these same people don't want their daughter playing high school soccer because it "sucks". I've seen many of these kids not get recruited, latch on to a roster spot somewhere and never play in college. It's not hard to pick out the good players and most of the good ones can train on their own and not pay a dime to anyone. I know many of these folks that do the individual training and they are killing it $$!

The shinier and more hype the private business, the more folks are lined up throwing wallets at them 😂

I know of a coach who is a no-name that has sent 100% of their private trainees from small grassroots to MLS Next teams and Professional Academies.
No frills. No fancy surroundings. No super fancy equipment. Cheap

Coaches like that aren't desired by the masses in the DMV

This^^^

And like a great restaurant, you want to tell enough people about them so they stay in business, but not so many that you can’t get a table anymore.

I think all these complaints are because people have a mismatch of expectations from the club and their kids performance.

Almost every club I know of send an email a couple times a season it says just doing the practices with the club is not enough to have success. And almost every Baller I know or my kid knows that’s of quality is doing significant training outside the club. Some at home, some with trainers, some with small groups, some with structured groups (commercialized), etc.

+1 The best players on DS team, which includes DS, train outside of practices (and no one is asking with whom or how, etc., probably bc everyone assumes ur putting in the work somewhere).

And the other players on the team are also doing outside practices/training to keep up or to get better. It’s so clear which players are putting in the work and who aren’t.

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Anonymous wrote:So where would a DC based young but aspiring top level player play? If both Bethesda and Achilles aren’t good, what’s the better option?

There’s a group working on bringing a new club to the bethesda area. They are building new fields. Heard some of bethesda coaches are already secretely on board and they will be offering encl girls program.

JC will find these traitors!!

Potomac did just get ECNL boys........

Potomac girls are not within a million miles of ECNL ready or worthy. Boys they’re stronger and it is a totally different story with BSC having MLSNext and no other ECNL boys programs in county. Not to mention Achilles MLSN.

More realistic is a GA program in MoCo. They have a big presence around Baltimore and surrounding areas (Armour, Celtic, Coppermine).

Potomac had a short lived partnership with the now defunct Metro United.

I guess MoCo is big enough for another ECNL but it would make zero sense for Potomac any time soon. Maybe RL only (like DC Soccer) which also helps with less travel for MD RL teams. Works well in VA with more RL teams because of the combined ECNL team clubs having their own RL teams, which MD does not have.

Dismissing the readiness or worthiness of clubs in MoCo seems harsh and just wrong. The reality is that development is a dynamic process, and clubs evolve rapidly based on the quality of their coaching, resources, and commitment to player.

As for BSC, while they have MLSNext and ECNL, it doesn’t necessarily make them more “worthy” than other clubs—every organization has its strengths and areas for growth. Seriously just think, we have to pay trainers more than the club in many cases because the coaching is so terrible just so our kids don't fall behind. But THAY speaks to a broader issue across many clubs, not just one. We should only have to pay for the platform lol.

If there’s a growing interest and talent pool in MoCo, why shouldn’t there be more opportunities for players, whether that’s through ECNL, GA, MLSN or other platforms?

It’s funny to see bethesda coaches in this board taking credit for developing players when in 99% of the cases these kids been developed by Paul Torres at Next Star. Ask any of these kids who they attribute their development to and you’ll see.

The fact that bethesda parents pay thousands for extra training is the perfect example to show how bad Bethesda’s program is and how little its impacts of the players development. This is true for most clubs though.

All players need extra training outside their clubs to reach the highest levels.
Correct

In the USA yes

Until kids become residents living at the academies in Europe after U14, they do extra training outside if they want to be in the top percentile

During summer and winter breaks many do private training.
So do professional players.

So no. Not only in the USA

You now throwing professionals in there? Really?

How old is your child?

I’m under the assumption we are talking about young kids here?

The PP clearly emphasized the Academy years.

The point is that outside the USA everywhere does private extra training.

I'm just going to be honest. We often turn to private training because the coaching at the club level is lacking and doesn't prepare our kids for anything. Alternatively, we pay for extra sessions with coaches who may have influence within the club, in exchange for more favorable treatment for our child.

I thought people did private training outside their club because they had drive and motivation to develop into strong players.

Coaches are coaching a team of players. They don't have enough time to give all the kids the personal attention to their individual development.

Just like in school, the ones who do the most at home excel the most.

Come on we all have kids in the system. Coaches don't have time pay attention to kids individual development is BS. Then what are paying for team success lol.

Well, we know you're not a coach or familiar with training sessions for 15 or 20 kids

Also, the moment a U8 to U10 coach seriously started focusing solely on development of individuals to the detriment of W's parents are in uproar and mass migration begins

This whole thread also has parents complaining about coaches not developing kids.

My thesis of this case is that parents are more invested in their dreams for their kid than the kids are in those dreams.

Of course the coach and the club have zero investment in the parent dream for the kid, they can’t.

What exactly is the club investing in? They constantly boast about developing players and taking credit for work they didn't even do. They can't then spin it by blaming parents saying they have unrealistic expectations or dreams when they failure consistently on delivering what they promise.